Stigmadiabolicum

I also think this is a future event, wed have SOME clue otherwise. The real interesting one though is Sigzil, it's the first time we've seen the recipient or subject of a death rattle be present to hear it. They're always about others, or in the case of Kal he doesn't realize it's about him like jumping the chasm & drinking the Stormlight. Sigzil hearing it allowed him to directly change it, since we know futuresight is infallible, there's countless possible futures. I really doubt it's referring to future ex-Nomad Sig. Also what's bugged me for 15 years is wtf is the point of moelach..odium has his own future sight. How do the death rattles help anything..? Other than maybe freaking out the enemy? I always figured he was doing something else more ominous and the death rattles were just a side effect AOE. It's possible leyten or Moelach influenced the rattle so sigzil would be warned, too, we know they're somewhat aware it's happening since that Shin in the hospital refused to tell the Diagram the rattle since he knew they were involved. But yeah, climbing, dark twin, it's very evocative but doesn't ring any bells, took 4 books to answer some of the old ones, makes sense this is also a future one.

he specifically says hes the only known living shard to have "performed the.." ____ So either a ritual, an ability..or could be as simple as doing some arcanist tradition, performed the dance, or the X or Y tradition, as a nicety? But yes, could be performed the thing that releases his investiture from scadrial to allow it to be used abroad? But we know shards are mostly divorced from their invested arts..the fact preservation and ruin created scadrial does make a lot of things they can do unique to the planet. I do agree the fact he clarifies living implies a past shard could have done it, Virtuosity, Honor But the fact it's said in relation to him being nice, makes me doubt it's some crazy shard reveal, hopefully he answers in a WoB so we don't have to wait 15 years to find out.

It's funny how he managed to beat Vins high score of shortest time as a shard, she had a day or two he had a few hours tops. He could have easily become a CS like Kel since he was invested as a shard, would be nice to see him again, maybe he'll be able to pop up like Nohadon to future bondsmiths regardless. But since Brandon made it clear well never get confirmation on the god beyond or not so as to not prove Dalinar or Jasnah right or wrong, I think being claimed by the god beyond is just Dalinars own POV on what is occurring, the same thing happened to Kel when he began to stretch and he didn't think of it in any religious context. That WoB made it clear spiritual shadow Blackthorn won't be a major factor going forward, but hopefully he can have a face turn and basically just be a replacement Dalinar haha. Just on a relisten now that the graphic audio is out I'm still bummed he had such an ignominious blink and you'll miss it death in the storm, even if the whole sun makers gambit with retribution is storming awesome. Its just hard to imagine the Voidlight archive back 5 without Dalinar

So I just started wondering this too as I listen to Sunlit again with the new graphic audio.. They usually capture Stormlight scenes SO well, the most epic version with the music and voice acting, and they know their rust casting Hoid and Saze correctly in their scenes or epigraphs But that was my only complaint is the scene where he thinks he sees Kal, when I first read that I got chills. It was so evocative, we all went nuts with theories when the sample chapters came out haha, but the GA didn't quite do it justice with music. That aside..yeah. As far as we know he leaves at the end of WaK, might not even know what happened with Retribution, and even though Aux is Szeths spren, they didn't know what happened to Kal. Only people who know he's a herald are the other heralds, the Wind..and that's about it. Well, probably bridge 4 even with a body they'll be like eh, he survived somehow. So assuming the Return hasn't happened yet, he likely has no idea about the current affairs on Roshar unless he scoped some things out when he was on Ashyn, or Hoid kept him up to date? We don't know if this is post era 2 Hoid on Scadrial, if he made his way back to Roshar yet.. impossible to say. The timelines are impossible to parse..some aspects seem like they're late Era 4, like Emberdark time since theyre already in the cold war. The time dilation does add some kinks..but I mean, depending on what Kel does on Scadrial in Era 3 based on his comments at the end of TLM, they could have a rapid launch up the tech trees. Roshar had made so much progress with magitech and I'm still so confused how anything will work now, unless honor breaks off early in book 6 or warlight is just usable. Idk, I really want our boy Sig to eventually make it back.. I mean..era 4 space age is Mistborn but Roshar will still need to be at that level, and if it's long after jasnah is dead after her book 10 it won't really make sense. I think it all comes down to if era 3-4 is a few decades and we keep all our characters, or if by the end it's a century later. The thing is we can't tell if he's surprised to see Kal purely because it's manifesting on an alien world, or if he's supposed to be long dead. Wonder if we can get a WoB on this

Granted..theres always the backup Dalinar cognitive shadow, who can just as easily go on the same journey down the line But yeah..it's possible this was Nohadons influence not just Honor, but yeah I mean as much as I loved W&T, and the endless sanderlanche, some aspects felt a bit rushed to get to the end and breezed past some pretty major moments. Maybe once I listen to the graphic audio and get the full experience I'll think differently. But yeah, Dalinars arc is kind of a bummer and anticlimactic if that's just it, even if he gets kind of a survivor/Kelsier impact on scadrial since a religion was forming around him, and once Hoid spreads the word of what he did.

Just finished another relisten of Starsight, the most illuminating section about this was when Morimuur was about to get back into the Drafting pod. They talk about all their relatives lining up, and mention how the lefts, rights and nongendered ones lined up. So they have the equivalent of 3 haha, blues reds and unaligned. But I believe cuna and Morimuur are always they, I think it's just pointless to try and view them through the context of our human genders haha. But yeah, I always saw cuna in female context too, which is just how were wired as humans I think. It's kind of like the Asari in mass effect who seen all female but are actually nongendered.

I mean he does a double take when he sees her, he once courted a deaf woman but implied he ruined it but puking, like Charlie, he rambles the same way, said his family dragged him away from home, hoid said so many journeys would end early if the heroine realized the thing she she was searching for was right next to her the whole time haha, I noticed several of these on my first listen but it didn't click until that last clue by narrator hoid when she became sprouter. My meta brain knew he'd need to be in the narrative somehow, plus it's a parallel to Princess Bride as intended. I'm loving the graphic audio so far, it's always the best way to experience the cosmere and the regular audiobooks are a pale shadow of them without the full cast, and especially actually having the Hoid VA as narrator as intended, he's been perfect across all the main series.

On yet another graphic audio relisten of OB and yeah that line definitely stands out, especially since not much later we see Kaladins proto-plate forming in Shadesmar, and with Jasnah and Shallan in that recent chapter we see that's exactly how it coalesces. (funny how it's only been 2 years from WoK to KoWaT, crazy you can blast through ideals like that fast) I hope he gets it before the champion duel at least in a big epic OB like moment..even though he might end up fused haha

Okay so holy crap the new version of this, after two years of discussion, doesn't make SF seem any less fake.. But does add him recognizing Jezriens blade and WTF VASHER MADE THE ANTI VOIDLIGHT?! sure he's been a scholar that made nightblood but goddamn. Really want him to talk to Navani now like he did with Kal discussing CS and Investiture

Coming back to this again years later with the new info we have..(definitely my favorite thread of the samples besides maybe Cusicesh/Iri) with the info about Adonalsium-era spren like Wind and Stone, BAM was definitely one of those types that was Unmade, with what stormfaker and Kelek said, and that's why it affected Roshar so deeply. More than just odium also being a rhythm of the planet. Also I really need to know how Kelek might have caused the recreance. Still on board with stormfaker, there's just way too many red flags than just him taking a different approach with Dalinar..also he doesn't hold any resentment to the Heralds like SF did until he bonded with Dalinar and came to understand them and their oathbreaking in OB. The big question still is "it's too soon they can't see they can't know" wtf? The void spren seeing chana appear? What about this scenario would lead to who seeing what in regards to him?

I was reading old WoBs and Brandon signed one of the aloy of law books with "remember Hammonder Bay" haha.. I'm wondering if they knew it would be the site of the final encounter and waynes last stand back then in 2015.. I think as a mistborn and being able to compound gold though, if he'd started compounding while in the bubble and then done a huge push right as he dropped the bubble it's possible, especially if Sazed could do the Mistblessed avatar allomancy buff vin was powering Elend with at the pits..but honestly, as much as I reeeeally wanted world hopping Wayne joining Melaan, it was fitting for his story, especially with giving the money to her and the pranks. Needed the stakes like losing vin and Elend. Another wob did clarify wax obviously figured out he was MB down the line, but unless they do have that one more kid they talked about idk if it'll be relevant in era 3.

FirstSelector "Was Cultivation close enough to when Odium got Honor, to know how to fight back?" Brandon Sanderson "Heheheheh. I would say yes." I thought I'd read all the WoBs but just found this one id never seen. So this almost implicitly confirms odium did do it, and now she knows how to splinter a shard. However, that laugh haha, definitely could mean she was the one that did the deed, so he's laughing because she was absolutely close when he died. Like others have said, I don't think any shard is flat out benevolent, but it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. She might love tanavast, but be tired of his intent clashing with hers, and assisted in taking him out, but still also opposes odium. Personally I don't think she'd help recover Dalinar if she wasn't anti odium, her interaction with todium could be seen either way, he's way too cocky for a fresh shard & she's been one for millenia and immediately knows he's got ulterior motives but as per usual is going for the long con..or he actually did trick her and she thinks he'll be chill, but I just can't see that. She got her revenge against rayse, and is planting the seeds for Dalinar and lift to take up the other two shards. I just don't think we'll get the full story on her till the back 5, maybe a few bits in the next one

I just listened to the shoemakers interlude chapter on my current graphic audio relisten and id totally forgotten he said the seventh land would be when they rejoined with the One.. Roshar is the fourth land. They leave in era 2, end up in scadrial next during W&W (since that takes place in between book 5-6 of stormlight) tress is way later but we don't know how long it had been, gotta be fairly recent so that would be the sixth land.. so wherever they went next is their final destination. (Also nale is a dick haha that poor dude, especially since he realizes the desolation has begun a few months later) Good point! That would make a lot of sense if they originated on Sel. That's the only other culture with predominantly light coloring.

The interesting thing is Returned are the exception to the rule, as per WoB endowment hacked the usual system, hence why they're untethered and not stuck to their planet like fused/heralds/Kel. I think it's more with the latter 3 they're linked with the shards power which gives that rubber band effect, we know fused are constantly powered with void light..but endowment just gave the power and doesn't keep them connected, might be why they need the weekly breath to keep it going So we know it's definitely possible, the problem is figuring out how to achieve that outside of a shard directly handing it over, and it has to be something besides just unkeyed metal minds. Also even though Kel is in a mistwraith body without powers, kandra aren't incapable of it as we saw with Bleeder, though it's unclear if that was only because of the Bavadinium spike

Oh man, well I bet you're stoked now after Lost Metals reveal as well as the recent crazy interlude chapter and Tress. Got more clues about them in a year or two than we got in decades. They seriously get around. It's clear like the shin they have kept old knowledge better than the other cultures but it doesn't seem to have warped as much as the isolated shin. Be really cool if they are being sheparded by an as of yet unseen shard like intellect or the survival shard. I wouldn't be surprised if they were on nalthis before, maybe on sel, we dont know how long autonomy has blocked travel to their planet so idk if they've been to taldain) But with the last two there should be some record of them, roshar got its history & progress nuked by countless desolations, Rashek hit the pause button for a millennia there, but the former two seem to have been consistent for all that time. (Kind of crazy to think the two major sharld worlds barely started developing tech and knowledge within the last century or so.. nalthis and sel should be full on sci fi worlds by comparison haha.. Though I guess having Elantrians and gods in power might have led to being stagnant as well..) But yeah, he's clearly saving the lore for the iriali til era 4, when well discover their whole pilgrimage was to lead up to that big confrontation in dragonsteel.. So just have to wait till like 2043 or so after stormlight 10 and mistborn 13