WhiffleWaffles

For those that are curious and since I had shared this with Quillin, Devotary, and Alvron in our PM's here's the list of people I had protected with the Knight redirects.

1 hour ago, Steeldancer said:

Oh, waffles. You singlehandedly drove me up the wall this game. We had Link narrowed down to 4 individuals fairly early on, but between Kayla not being on to submit her revali action and you redirecting all of my kills, I wasn't able to narrow it down to Alvron. You did a pretty great job at annoying me as an elim.

Haha not gonna lie this makes me feel a little bit better about our lose, I was sorta thinking my redirects were very pointless and did nothing at this point in the game since we assumed the Yiga were inactive. I had planned to vote for you at the end and use a Mighty Banana, as I did get one from Devotary, however it seems that wouldn't of done anything. Plus, when I had made that decision it was 3 in the morning and Quillin wasn't on so the vote wouldn't of mattered anyway. 

Since this game was based off Age of Calamity and Breath of the Wild Link, one of the most chaotic Link's ever, I like to imagine he went out wearing a Bokoblin mask. Just give me this peace of mind, please. 

Spoilered to keep the image from blocking the pages. It's Bokoblin mask Link!  

Sorry, Alvron. I should've trusted you because of how early you came to me as Link. Although I will admit that I had planned to ask Quill to move his vote and use a mighty banana on Steel, apparently Steel also had a Mighty Banana? Either way, good game! That was a wild ride. I totally didn't just wake up at 2 in the afternoon and realize it was the last day lol. 

I love the fact that Yiga Revali was Kayla. Brilliant. 

Also definitely have learned a few things about this game that I hope I can use in other games. I made a lot of mistakes. 

I need to apologize to Danex because I legit defended them during a Day cycle like a dummy and then they died that night cycle aaaaaa. Sorry, @Danex

4 hours ago, quillinthestars said:

Hey by the way, who had PMs with Ashbringer other than Waffles?

I'm assuming Ashbringer would've opened other PM's with players but it seems, so far since no one has come forward, that I may have been the only surviving player to have a PM with them? 

1 minute ago, quillinthestars said:

Wow I totally messed up the color formatting

I think you may have messed up the color formatting again, Quill. xD /lh 

I think you need the ] instead of ) at the end of [/red] and you'll be good! 

6 minutes ago, Alvron said:

Yeah, I've been off my game quite a bit the last few days due to RL stuff but this is also fairly standard for me.  In PMs I can sort my thoughts out better as I'm only typing for one but in thread, I tend to be all over the place as I try to explain my thoughts in a way that everyone can understand.  I'm not sure if it's part of my bipolar or something else entirely but hey, that's what makes me me.

Valid. 

6 minutes ago, Alvron said:

In my opinion, yes.   If I'm Link and you vote for me, the Village loses.  If I'm evil and you vote for me, the Village wins.  A 50/50 chance.  Steel and I know the truth but you only suspect what is true and what isn't.

True haha. We'll see how it goes. 

10 hours ago, Biplet said:

Ashbinger has been kill! They were a Hyrulean Postman.

Aw man! >:( Well, we know who the other Postman is now. Quill could either be an elim Postman or a village Postman, however it's more likely that he's Village since the elims have their own doc, had one Postman of their own, and had three big roles on their side. 

10 hours ago, Alvron said:

My apologies Quill.  A PM has indeed been opened so you couldn't have made the kill.
Other than that, I have no idea anymore. Every time I think I'm on to something I'm wrong.

I feel like that's been me pretty much this entire game, haha. However, to be fair me and Quill are brand new players. At least for me, this is the first mafia game I've ever played. I still cannot get over the fact that Kayla was Yiga Revali. It's so ironic considering Revali is one of her only favorite Champions in the Legend of Zelda. And she was a pinch hitter player too! I would've expected her to be more active in the public thread if she were an elim, but I guess she likely kept it all in the elim doc to eliminate suspicion considering at least four of us knew each other previously from discord. 

9 hours ago, quillinthestars said:

Honestly, at this point, I'm just excited to see how to write-up goes. We're left with quite an interesting cast of characters. I opened a PM with Alvron cause, ya know, what else am I going to do this turn, I've already got PMs with the other 3 of you. I'll be casting my vote next post, I just thought I would give him a chance to try and defend himself first. I like to think I'm nice like that /lh

Same, both Striker and Biplet are excellent writers. However, Striker better take it easy with that sprained wrist. 

9 hours ago, Mist said:

What happens if Link and the last Yiga die at the same time?

You role-claimed last cycle, correct? You role-claimed Urbosa. I think you have the ability to roleblock a player. If you're village, you're going to roleblock who you suspect is the most elim out of the remaining 5 players. If you were to roleblock an elim, and I defended Link, and Link killed the elim, that would guarantee us a win! However, we'll have to wait and see if we even make it to the night cycle. If we do, then you can take your action I think? I'd have to look but if you're village Urbosa, we believe in you Mist! 

4 hours ago, Alvron said:

Since you've admitted to having some Bananas, that means you can cancel a vote so that's something for everyone to keep in mind.  Personally, I think it would be far more enjoyable if instead we got three votes on you and two votes on me as that would let you cancel a vote bringing it to a tie and you know how I feel about them.   What say you?  Care to wager the entire game on the roll of the dice?

Although I'm a huge Dungeons and Dragons fan and I totally don't have a dice addiction (hehe ) is that risk worth it? 

OOC/G: I'm on mobile but I missed a lot last cycle and I need to catch up on it and now this cycle. I'll respond and give my input and a vote when I can, but I'm preparing for company right now and am unable to really read and discuss atm. I'm on mobile and blue text isn't working so please pretend this is blue text. xD /lh 

6 minutes ago, Steeldancer said:

sorry, that was me, I forgot to retract my vote. ashbringer, if it makes you feel better. 
Now stop ninjaing me

I'm sorry I was doing my own vote count and my brain went "What in the heck?"  lol 

Just now, Steeldancer said:

Quick vote count 
Waffles(3): Quillin, Mist, Steel
Quillin(2): Ash, Waffles
Devotary(1): Alvron

Oh wait, nevermind on my blue text. I think I got Steel and Ash mixed up???

I'm going to retract my vote from Quillinthestars and move it to Devotary. 

I think my vote on Quill was just out pure disbelief that he lost his truth in me that quickly when suspicious of three other people. However, I've shared who I've been defending with him and I shared who I believed Devotary to be. However, after Devotary inquired about it in our PM something felt off about it and it doesn't sit right with me. (OOC/OOG: I think some of you forgot to retract your previous votes before you voted on me, btw. I don't know if that impacts the game and if it does, it is what it is but I noticed it, probably because I'm OCD about that sorta thing but yeah. Sorry it was bothering me and I had to point it out lol djskja) 

Just now, Steeldancer said:

Sorry, I feel bad. I just feel like I need to keep the person who is absolutely village alive over the person who's possibly evil, you know? 

Don't feel bad it's apart of the game, that's the fun!

I just don't understand since I was likely the only person who could protect Link tonight. Here's hoping that Urbosa is also village and knows what's up. There's definitely 2 elims left. If Quill somehow isn't an Elim I'll be shocked. Mist supporting Quill without hesitation also spells elim. 

2 minutes ago, Steeldancer said:

Yes, I can confirm, and I can also confirm she opened it herself. That's why I trust her. 
Waffles, I instantly like you as a person, but in the current game state claiming as knight is dangerous. Plus, I 100% trust Quillin. Therefore, in order to protect Quillin I'm going to vote Waffles. 

Then my fate is sealed... Good luck to whoever Link is. O7 see you all in the aftermath or dead doc/thread. 

Of course claiming is dangerous. I trusted Quill and he said he'd keep it a secret in the thread and that role claiming was the best bet for village to win. 

Quill is the one who opened all my PMs with everyone btw. He's not the only Postman, however. Good luck y'all. 

3 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

did you ever get contacted by / placed in a PM with Dannex? Or TJ, maybe, but mostly Dannex. Also when did Quill contact you? And lastly, do you think you ever sucessfully redirected a kill?

Holy moly I haven't been awake this early since I was a wee lass lol. Sleep schedule you shall be fixed. 

I never was placed in contact with Dannex. Quill had told me as a part of his trust with him that Dannex had been in contact with him and he opened PMs with Dannex and other players as requested and that unfortunate Dannex took that information with him to his grave. 

Quill contacted me on July 6th and it took a few days before I trusted them and we started an alliance. Then I roleclaimed to them. A lot of the reads Quill made, I trusted him on since he was right about purple and had no suspicious feelings about them. 

I have no idea if I have or not but by others comments I'm going to assume I haven't, otherwise it would show in a writeup. Each action I've taken has been meant with "you've successfully redirected any actions taken on this player." 

I trusted Quill enough and asked for input on who I should protect each night since. For the past few days he was suspicious of Yeet, who has been replaced by Mist. I find it alarming that from one message, he lost that trust he's told me he had since he contacted me and turned around on it. 

If I survived tonight I refuse to share who I protect anymore because after this I don't even know who I trust unless they can prove it. And even then Quill said he'd open any and all PM's with me to earn that. I was easily fooled. If Quill is an Elim, that likely was how they could know who to attack I guess. I'm going to assume him knowing I'm a Knight just gets me off the list of who Link can be, and gave them an easier chance to make a choice each night turn. 

Also, not quite sure what you mean in your second paragraph? But I did make a genuine mistake and it's been a punch to the gut ever since.

You trusted me before you found out I was a knight and I understand the reason you don't now, but Quill had turned so fast on me *after* he roleclaimed for me in the thread *and* trusted Mist and had no hesitation to vote for me despite their suspision of Mist, and you Ash. Why wouldn't he vote for you when he started to ask me to push for information from you and to keep you on my radar if he died? He could've easily gotten you out with one vote. I know Mist is a new player but that doesn't consider the fact that they replaced Yeet and he was suspicious of Yeet and you. Perhaps it's just some sort of tactic but I don't know. 

If I end up dead tomorrow from removal, you will all know what to do next. Good luck, village. O7 

18 minutes ago, Mist said:

I've been talking with Quill. I've been leaning towards trusting him, and I'm also planning for what to do next turn, if Waffles doesn't work out. I've looked through some individuals' posts (heh laid back yeah right oops :P), but not the whole thread yet.

6 elims seems likely to me, so 1 elim left. Plus stuff from Illwei (in thread) and others

Basically looking at role distribution

I'll be back in the morning before rollover, so my vote could change, but I figured I'd not procrastinate it.

Better start planning now. 

I didn't lie and I'm not lying now.

I am a Hyrulean Knight. That's my roleclaim and it's honest truth, which you'll likely find out tomorrow since I can see myself being voted for once Ash gets back from work later, seeing as Ash doesn't trust the Knight and I am the Knight. Ash, I know you don't trust the Knight and you trusted me and all I can ask for is your good faith in me and trust me. 

My response for Dannex being killed? I made an honest mistake with Dannex. I had accidentally taken my action during the day turn instead of the night turn, which I had double confirmed just tonight when I went to look at who I had defended since C1. 

I'm going to assume Quill is an Elim and having this role confirm from me and me supplying them with who I defended could've helped the elims out somehow. I'm no longer sharing who I defend if I survive this cycle. The only person we could 100% is Dannex, and Archer but they never role-claimed (iirc.) If Quill isn't an Elim, which I find hard to believe after he reached out to me randomly and said he that I was the only person he trusted, I'll be shocked. If this was the plan all along, I also wouldn't be surprised if you're an Elim too. 

Also, I'm going to bed so this is my last post for the night.

If I end up being voted out, Farwell and good luck. Link, whoever you are please be careful. Urbosa, if you're village, do your best to defend Link from the elims or being exe'd. Don't trust Quill, he's basically outed himself as an Elim if it takes one post to switch his trust. He planned to roleclaim me tonight in the thread and I agreed to it, in hopes Link would contact us. So especially to Link, don't trust him. 

3 hours ago, quillinthestars said:

As I told Mist, nothing like rose-colored glasses to distract you from a lying friend.

Even if I were an elim, I wouldn't lie. You're confirmed one of our Postman, and we have another one out there. You were suspicious of Mist (Yeet) and now you trust them after one message. Therefore, I guess I'll put my vote for you. We're taking potshot votes again I guess. Not only that, but you wanted me to push for information and did not trust Alvron or Ashbringer. At one point I was suspicious of them but now I honestly don't know who my reads on anyone are at this point. 

I know you're a Postman, and there's another 1 left who is likely village too. You aren't Link, otherwise you'd have taken up my offer when I offered to protect you in order to keep our chain of information and alliance flowing. Therefore, here goes my vote: Quillinthestars.

16 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

Well probably what would happen if Link claimed to this Knight is that he'd be telling the elims and thus immediately die. Even in the miraculous case where quill and this Knight are village, there's no way for Link to get in contact with them without trusting an outside party or quill guessing correctly.

I doubt that the village would have Mipha and two Knights while the elims have no protection. Also, apparently Knights cannot self-target.

In that case, if there is a Knight the best someone can do is request a PM and hope for the best but still keep safe caution??

Knights cannot self-target so that means the Knight role-claiming in the thread will just paint a target on their back and Link would basically have to out themselves unless Quill took a guess on who Link was and put them in a PM with this "confirmed Knight." The elims know who each other are, all they have to do now is guess which one of us is Link and take their shot. 

[alright this is my last post for the night / day. I seriously need to get some sleep. I'll respond tomorrow when I have the time.]

39 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

So N2. There's not really such a thing as confirmed village; even if TJ did scan this person N2 and told Dannex, that information would have died with both of them N3 unless they were willing to tell someone who wasn't cleared. And even then, 'Tj/Dannex told me this person was scanned as a villager' is only trustworthy to the person who directly received that message.

At this point in the game, I don't see what else we can do? I'm not an experienced player by any means, but we're at 7 players and if Link is killed it's the end of it. Unless we can start to communicate and at least trust someone, that's the end of that. Link had been on a ball streak, but I knew as soon as Attic survived that removal it was the end of that streak. Now Link is defenseless for one cycle as he's not able to submit a kill action.

No one has role-claimed to me in a PM, but I wouldn't say it's far fetched that a Hyrulean Knight still exists. Pyro was removed at the beginning of the game and out of 27 other players, why would there only be one Knight? I don't know how role distribution works, but I'm not going to just toss Quill's message to the disposal bin. Also remember the time one player said they didn't believe Dannex despite them claiming Sheikah and telling us that Wei was Kohga, which turned out to be true, but they still didn't believe them. 

We're all tossed and turned like a bag of salad right now. We were all so convinced that Daruk was an elim, and look what happened. All we have to do is communicate and figure it out. 

52 minutes ago, quillinthestars said:

I haven't lied once this game, I like playing honestly, I find the results tend to be better. So if anyone else wants to ask me any questions in the thread, please, feel free.

Elim or village, at this point what else is there to do but communicate with each other? We've taken potshots and done RNG in this game, and I know a lot of the people who spoke a majority of the time in this thread are gone, but we have to at least give it a shot. I'm willing to do so. I also think I can trust you considering the fact that you put Dannex in a PM with TJ and we were able to get some valuable information from that before Dannex was removed. 

Otherwise it feels like we're running in circles. Could you tell us anything else about requested PM's that you fulfilled? 

28 minutes ago, Biplet said:

GUESS WHAT EVERYONE

@WhiffleWaffles HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!

Bip, you're so sweet. Thank you so much for the happy birthday!!! ^-^ Ilysm UwU /p 

Also, heads up. Since it's my birthday I'll likely be with my family for the majority of the day and because of this I'm going to hit the hay earlier and grab some Z's before 1 am lol however I will try and check on the thread and stuff before this cycle ends and contribute to the conversation. 

11 hours ago, StrikerEZ said:

Okay everyone, @Mist is replacing YeetAroundABush! Say hello, and go ahead and give her a chance to get caught up on what's going on and what not!

Welcome to the game @Mist! We'll let you settle down, thankfully the day turn doesn't end until July 15th. The player you replaced has been on some of our sus-radar, but I'd rather let you find your place and settle in the game instead of lynching you. Someone killed Szeth when they went on vacation and it just felt wrong. >.< 

11 hours ago, StrikerEZ said:

Jondesu has been killed! They were a Hyrulean!
attic_gremlin has been killed! They were a Hyrulean Daruk!

I had been hoping to request a PM with Jondesu, but it looks like that won't be happening. 

So what appears to have happened is that Link killed Attic / Hyrulean Daruk, and the Yiga killed Jondesu / Hyrulean. Is that correct or the other way around? If that's correct that means Link cannot kill for another cycle because he killed a Hyrulean, and I had a suspicion that this would happen. 

I'm going to go back and do some quick rereading's but here's what needs to happen. 

We can't tip toe around anymore. Link is defenseless without his action until the next cycle, and at this point even if Urbosa is village we cannot rely on her keeping Link safe. We need to think of worst case scenario and figure out what to do.

9 hours ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

Out of seven players, we've got one Link, two Postmen, presumably one Knight, hopefully one Urbosa, and then at least two vanillas. Narrowing down the options by roleclaiming means we have to win today, or else Link is extremely vulnerable tonight.

I agree with this. Link is defenseless now that he killed a Hyrulean until the next cycle, and in the best case Urbosa being village we cannot simply rely on her to protect whoever Link is.

1 Link, 1 Urbosa, 2 Postman, and 2 Vanillas / 1 Knight or 3 vanillas. 

6 hours ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

I wouldn't go that far. If we get verifiable claims from two postmen and Urbosa, we have best case two vanillas, Link, and the elim left. Our chances of getting it right are higher than the base 1/4 chance since we have other evidence than roles, but if we're wrong then the elim can narrow down Link's identity to two people and has a better than 50% chance of winning. I guess Link could also claim, but that would just bring the elim pool down to three people instead of four while guaranteeing a loss if we miss today or if there are two elims left.

What do you think is the best course of action? :/ 

2 hours ago, attic_gremlin said:

It's hard to prove a negative, but I'm not elim. I was online during the turn the kill was missed -- if we assume that the final elim is an inactive player, since the kill wasn't submitted when they had a chance to, then the final elim must be someone who wasn't online when they had a chance to submit a kill.

Also, despite me voting in Attic I sort of think what they're saying holds some weight. A few players were focused on the activity of other's during the roll-over and those specific cycles. If we're assuming an elim is inactive, than Attic being online and not taking an action to kill a player wouldn't make sense? 

Also, it could make sense if Yeet were an elim too. I had thought about voting for Yeet yesterday but it felt... wrong to do so, considering they're inactive but still invested in the game? Sort of the same feeling whenever Szeth was killed by the elim's during their time on vacation. If Yeet weren't an elim they likely would've removed them by now? :thonk: Idk I'm just trying to find any pattern I can at this point. 

We've seen a lot of role-based Yiga be removed or killed, and one vanilla Yiga. 

2 hours ago, attic_gremlin said:

Finally, I'm not Daruk -- I survived because I had a Durian. I'd claim my actual role, but I don't think it's a good idea rn, and I don't think you'd believe me if I did...

Honestly, this entire situation is a disaster and I think Attic surviving the removal might be in the village's favor? Link has been knocking the ball out of the park with the cycles, but it's crucial that Link doesn't mistake a village target for an elim. If he does, he losses that kill and we'll be at the breaking point. Link needs to be careful, and we've been taking a lot of potshot votes this game. If we were to end up killing Link through a vote, or if Link took a kill and it was a villager...?

Option 1: Daruk is village, Urbosa is elim. We've all been assuming that Daruk is an elim, however there's Daruk and Urbosa left and I wouldn't put it past the GM to just add this plot twist with Urbosa being an elim? After rereading the roles list, it might make more sense for an elim Urbosa and an elim Revali? I feel like that pair together would be a perfect combination (well, obviously not anymore since Yiga Revali is gone.) 

Option 2: Daruk is an Elim, Urbosa is village. So Attic is claiming that they are not Daruk and that a Durian is what kept them surviving from this removal. However, what if it was a roleblock from Urbosa? I don't know if that's possible, and if it isn't possible for Urbosa to block a removal, than this option is null. However, if it is I just want to get it out there. Better safe than sorry when we're at 9 players, 1 of which is Link. 

• Daruk: With the power of Daruk’s Protection, Daruk can protect himself from anything that could hurt him. Daruk has a passive life that protects him from the first kill or removal done against him.
• Revali: With the power of Revali’s Gale, Revali can fly up to a better vantage point and observe the actions of others. Once per cycle, Revali can target another player and see who they target. 
• Urbosa: With the power of Urbosa’s Fury, Urbosa can electrocute and stun another player. Once per cycle, Urbosa can target another player and roleblock them.

3 hours ago, Biplet said:

attic_gremlin was attempted to be removed, but survived!

The dots are being connected oh dang! 

3 hours ago, quillinthestars said:

Well then, we either found Daruk or Attic had a durian. Thoughts, everyone?

I think if it was a Durian that saved Attic from being removed, the writeup would've been a little different. My bet is that Attic is Daruk. 

If Daruk isn't an elim and Urbosa is that'll be a plot twist on its own. 

1 hour ago, Steeldancer said:

Well that clears, literally nothing up. 

Hmm... it either means that Attic is Daruk or had a Durian, however I think it's likely they are Daruk? Hmm... Kas accepted the requests for a Durian, correct? Did Attic request one or have a PM set up with Kas? 

I'll put my vote down for [color=red]Attic[/color] Out of the four Ash mentioned earlier, Yeet and Attic have more suspicious vibes to me.

Attic is the only person I'd feel leans more Elim compared to Quill, who I've been reading as village. I have no read on Jondesu.

I'm not entirely sure we'll have any votes tonight but I've been mulling over what Ash had mentioned for the 4 (Yeet, Quill, Attic, Jondesu.)

I'm not reading Quill as elim, and Attic seems to be leaning village?

Yeet is hard to say since they're not avaliable to post at the moment but I know that there's been posts from them about the game and I'm curious if they're pulling a new player card or being genuine. If Yeet is an Elim and only posted about the player aspect of it, I assume they would learn the ropes in an Elim doc? However, with what Ash said about the Szeth kill and stuff, I can definitely see their suspension a lot clearer. 

I have no read on Jondesu. If there were another elim Postman that would suck big time. 

2 hours ago, Ashbringer said:

I'm going to vote on one of those three when I get back. Maybe break off to something else, depending on what midnight-brain-Ash decides. But the talking is up to you

I would feel bad for voting on JJ, however I understand the decision to if you do. I'm going to do one final look-thru at everything before I put in my vote. 

50 minutes ago, Jondesu said:

Could be an e!Postman trying to make people suspicious of each other, or a v!Postman getting people to talk.

Well, Drake was an e!Postman and he was voted off. I feel like the chance of it being another e!Postman is rare, unless there were 3 Postman total, which I wouldn't mark off as impossible.

14 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

Archer claimed to me at least that he didn't have any role scans. I'm also not sure Link would have killed purple and Kayla for being vanilla and Revali respectively, or would be more likely to have gone for Revali first since that was a common suspicion for an elim role I believe.

Wait, can you just...target a specific role and take that action? I'm genuinely confused but I could be misreading this? 

3 hours ago, Alvron said:

If there is only one elim remaining then I think we can, hesitantly, rule out Yeet.  I don't think Striker and Bip would keep the game going if the only elim left was going to be inactive for a couple of cycles.  I'm not 100% on it though as I don't know how long they said they were going to be away so for all I know they might be coming back during this cycle.

That's fair.

17 minutes ago, Devotary of Spontaneity said:

Possibly it was just Drake trying to set up his D4 lie about being Link, but Drake's confidence that he wouldn't be killed N3 plus a vigilante's general responsibility of killing people who would be exed next turn anyway makes me think the elims have a knight much more than that Link chose to hit TJ.

Yeah, honestly Drake's posts really messed with my thought process on all the people I did have reads for.