Prymalfire

Cheers. Yeah, seems like there is not sufficient evidence that this is an ability Compounders inherently have access to. I still do think that Generic Attribute could be stored in an metalmind, but I will consider that a pet theory until there is more evidence.

Hey, appreciate you taking the time to respond! My intent wasn't to say that the compounder would be storing unkeyed investiture, like unkeyed Dor. It was more to say that they could store 'unobligated' attribute. Sense that doesn't know until it is manifested which sense it represents. I agree that the fact that the filter needs to possess a Feruchemical charge hurts my theory. But, I can think of a counter argument. Burning Lerasium uses Lerasium as the filter to access the spiritual realm. But it doesn't draw forth investiture in the form of the filter (this would just create more Lerasium). The investiture is manifested as a Power (the power to alter the spiritweb to create a Mistborn) But Godmetals are weird, so that's not a slam dunk. I guess that is the core of my theory: that using Feruchemically charged metal as a filter for Allomancy creates Feruchemical Power directly, rather than copying / amplifying the Feruchemical Charge that was present in the metal. Everything else is contingent on that theory. I don't know if any of the WoB can prove or disprove that.

Hello all, longtime theorizer but first(ish) time poster. I would like to introduce my current Cosmere Mechanics fascination. If this has already been discussed or disproved, please do let me know. TLDR - I think that Compounders ought to be able to store the Generic version of their attribute in a metalmind. By Generic, I mean not keyed to a specific instance of that attribute - eg. Sense stored in Tin that could be used to increase sight or hearing as desired, rather than one or the other. A Feruchemist works by converting a portion of their Physical, Cognitive, or Spiritual self into Investiture, then storing that in their metalmind. The investiture recalls its original form - Sense that is stored by filling sight will only ever grant sight when tapped. Memory that is filled with a specific memory returns as the same memory. Same with Sustenance, same with Investiture. Traditional compounding works by, (in my understanding), turning the investiture that would have been turned into Allomantic power into Feruchemical attribute. Because this investiture is drawn from the spiritual realm, it does not have this 'memory' of exactly how it should manifest in the user. -- Sidenote: I can see an argument that they need to burn the attribute itself to key the investiture to Feruchemy, and so it might inherit the properties of the burned power. If a skilled compounder were to fill their Metalmind directly from the source of compounding, without manifesting the attribute in their own Self first, I would propose that the Metalmind would be filled with this memoryless (Generic) attribute. What would this mean? Not so much for the compounder themselves honestly. The benefits would be seen through the use of unkeyed Metalminds in combination with these Generic attributes. Tin would probably be the most straightforward of the applications - If the Tin Compounder has a way to make an unkeyed Metalmind, they can make it an unkeyed Generic Metalmind, so they do not have to be aware of or in possession of all the senses they would need to store in order to make them available to the user. (Maybe the Bands of Mourning contain Generic Sense?) A person that has an additional sense could tap that sense without the Tin Compounder needing to already posses it. A Bronze Misting could tap this unkeyed Generic Tin Metalmind to increase their Bronze Sense. Copper is actually where I first started thinking about this idea, because I was wondering about what benefits you would get from being a Copper Compounder. What would it mean to tap Generic Memory? Well, perhaps the most intuitive thing is that it could enhance all your memories - you get much better recall of all your memories, rather than perfect recall over the memories you stored. If the ability to tap Generic attributes responds to Intent, as I believe it would, you might be able to recall completely forgotten memories, from the deep past or repressed by trauma - after all, Investiture comes from The Spiritual Realm, which is outside of time. If neither of the previous work, I think at minimum you could store the Generic Memory using the template of an existing memory, which would allow you to both store and retain a memory - interesting implications for unkeyed Copperminds. -- These are also my speculations for the normal benefits of Copper Compounding; enhanced recall, memory duplication when storing, and recalling forgotten memories (I will leave speculation about what happens when you tap Generic Memory while under the effects of another person's Identity or Connection for another time) Nicrosil. We don't know enough about the effects of normal Investiture Metalminds to speculate. Tapping Generic Investiture could just replicate the effects of breathing Stormlight, or it could respond to Intent in interesting ways (if any of the theories about Copper hold true). So, have I gotten anything wrong here? Love to hear your thoughts.

I have a hypothesis: Shards do not have free will. They are deterministic. This is informed by the fact that a Shard's future sight is impaired by a person seeing the future (Renarin), but we see no sign of Cultivation's future sight having any blotting out affect of Odium's future sight. Now, this could be explained by saying that Cultivation is subtle, and able to mask her intentions from even Fortune from the spiritual realm, but I think it more likely that the Intent of a Shard is so overwhelming that all actions of a Shard are predetermined, but with the ability to see the future can easily look considered to a mortal. Possible exception: a newly ascended vessel may have greater free will. Vin's ability to strike at, and destroy Ati suggests this. If this is true, then Cultivation may be practically blind to the future at the moment, due to Taravangian's combo of future sight, cosmic power, and free will. And Taravangian would not be suffering from the same blindness.

I think the secret sauce is Ishar, Bondsmith Unbound. If Ishar, or anyone really wielding the Honourblade, strips Odium from the contest and replaces him with another participant, then Dalinar is still bound win or lose, and Odium suffers absolutely 0 consequnces, win or lose. This ups the stakes of Kaladin and Szeth's Shinovar adventure. I'd put money on this.

Without getting a proper pov of The Sibling, most of this discussion is speculation. True, The Sibling did not consider Navani worthy. That was when they first met. In the story, I believe that The Sibling begins to 1) Trust Navani 2) Appreciate Navani's intellect 3) See that Navani is willing to work with 'the other' for the good of her people They bonded through necessity, but they bonded successfully. They are more likely to try to work through their differences together than abandon the bond because of poor first impresssions (especially as a child of Honor himself)

"I will make a world that no longer needs my protection." The Radiants of the 5th Ideal would be the paragons of their order. A 5th Ideal Windrunner can't be concerned with flying off to their hometown to save it from a storm. They need to train their squires and uplift them to be protectors of their own. They need to coordinate logistics, assign missions. Kaladin had been given this role preemptively, but was not ready to take it up. Other ideas, considering that people may not want protection, I feel like is a Willshaper ideal. A Windrunner will save who they can first, and consider the consequences later. (Emphasis on can, though) (Side note: I think that the 5th Ideal will let a Windrunner 'Ride the Storm' like Kaladin did once, as its boon)

I'm calling it now: On Valor's world, only Heroes have magic. Perhaps the means by which one shows their Valor influences what kind of magic they manifest. On Valor's personality, I think calling them aggressive is premature. I would go with 'bold'. I think that Valor will influence the Vessel to be a bolder, more extreme version of themselves. If the Vessel were moral and just, they would become a Paragon of Virtue. If they were aggressive, then they would become the ultimate Warmonger.

I think the oath will be related to understanding how the nature of the spren bonded connects to the ideals of the order. For Skybreakers: How does Nobility (My assumption for what Highspren represent), link to Law? For Windrunners: What is the link between Honor and Protection? For Lightweavers: How do our lies create our perception of Reality? etc. And the understanding allows the Radiant to fully manifest the ideals. Eg. 'I am the Law', and possibly 'I am Protection', 'I am Reality'

I also wonder how much the Rythym of War is a result of Navani and Raboniel both looking for a Weapon. Would a different intent produce a different harmonylight? Could they create a Disciplinelight? (As in, the act of disciplining) An Eradicationlight? Dominationlight? This is somewhat supported by the WoBs that imply that shardblades are all alloys of Tanavastium and Cultivationmetal, but not the same alloy. In the same way, there may be multiple instantiations of blended Light.

I expect the Stoneward's lesser spren will be the ones that are used to make Half-Shards. I've been calling them Substancespren in my head, but there's probably better names

In RoW, the combination of Voidlight and Stormlight is described as 'snapping into harmony'. Warlight is the 'harmony' of Odium and Honour's investitures. This leads me to wonder: Is Sazed's Intent really Harmony, or is he simply holding a harmony of two shards, and the harmonized intent has yet to be revealed?

4. Cultivation grew to consider the situation on Roshar to be stagnant. Rayse was innefective as a Vessel. Cultivation aims to disrupt the status-quo (perhaps part of her intent) by cultivating both Taravangian and Odium into something stronger (definitely part of her intent). I think it unwise to consider Cultivation to be 'good'. This might be a subset of 2, now that I think of it.

I think it's likely he can Connect to Fortune, but he could also just be absurdly skilled. We have no reason to think Vorinism holds sway over any of the Heralds. They predate it, and Ishar in particular considers himself God, he wouldn't care about any prohibitions.

I don't know where you're getting the idea that Syl was Honor's first splinter. We know she was among the very few Honorspren that the Stormfather created. Perhaps being pre-recreance does connect her more strongly to Honor, but I don't think she's more invested than other Honorspren.