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He was third best against inhumanly good swordmen, not just he ranked third. Even then Denth waited until Vasher was exaughsted before fighting him, sure some of this was due to Breath and Nightblood, but Denth was geniuinly afraid Vasher could beat him in a fair fight even if he confidently said otherwise. Also this WoB expands on why Vasher is an incredible swordsman. (I posted the wrong WoB before.)
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theory How The Oathpact Lock Works
Lemiltock replied to Child of Hodor's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Yes they still do, but thats caused by the oaths not by the blades. To get surges you bond with a spren, a deadeyes/shardblade is not bonded in the same way which is why they dont provide surges. Honorn being splintered is different to a Deadeyes it was more a comparison of less is provided because something is broken. But i think the distinction here is that you dont think splinter does anything beyond the removal of a vessel where as I think it will reduce the capacity to draw directly from the shard as there is no vessel to allow it and the power is splintered (seperated, diffused, broken up etc). Why i think splintering doesnt affect the system as a whole is because the power is still in the system, its just broken up, but we dont have any references yet in book so I may be wrong. I guess well just have to disagree, i dont think theres any WoB on in book references either way. -
theory How The Oathpact Lock Works
Lemiltock replied to Child of Hodor's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I dont see how this is different, its the same functionallity as a spren, if Syl gets to far from Kaladin she thinks like a rock and he flys like one. Whats changed is not how the Honorblades function its that like a shardblade connects to a dead eyes, they connect to something broken, albiet broken differently. Thats what im saying splintering Honor has effects on Honors abilities, given that the Honorblades are to Honor what sprenblades are to spren and shardblades are to deadeyes, then the Honorblades still function they just join to a splintered power now hence theyre not as powerful as when Honor was not splintered. -
theory How The Oathpact Lock Works
Lemiltock replied to Child of Hodor's topic in Cosmere Discussion
They hold a literal piece of honor, thats why when they dont have the honor blades they dont have the surgebinding. This stops Honor from having to follow them around. Because Honor is splintered, in pieces, less than whole. Given we dont really have examples its hard to say it works as well, but they are functional. The Honorblades are still functional, im sure they still offer connection to Honor as well but as Honor is splintered that connection doesnt equal free stormlight/investiture or at least not to thr same magnitude. After all why shatter Honor if it achieves nothing? Because it builds suspense, theres always another secret. The Honorblades providing connection to Honor is significant, particularly as connection gets explored further. It doesnt necissarialry make them more powerful in the blow more stuff up way. And the Stormfather has been wrong before, hes a grumpy old man that likes to scare people away with vastness him saying theres more that you dont know is very Stormfather. -
theory How The Oathpact Lock Works
Lemiltock replied to Child of Hodor's topic in Cosmere Discussion
What other in universe comparison do we have of a shard powering an individual, he likely gave less power but unless another example can be shown, its better to assume it matches the already established mechanics especially with no contradictory evidence. This WoB indicates the most dangerous thing about an honor blade is the lack of oaths. And from the WoB in my previous reply the honorblades are pieces of honor (as are the spren to a lesser extent given cultivation), so its stands that they procide connection to honors power even if it is splintered. The stormfather may also not understand that now that Honor is shattered the Honorblades may act differently. I certainly agree that honorblades where the conduit and key to honors power for the heralds, ie the specific blade keyed the power and the blades connection to honor provided the power, however, since honor is now splintered i dont think the power part functions as well (there is possibly some ability to draw stormlight from shattered honor if you know how but given honors shattered this will almost certainly be diminished) -
theory How The Oathpact Lock Works
Lemiltock replied to Child of Hodor's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Given Honor is now splintered and its likely their levels of raw power csme via a direct link circa a certain mistborn spoiler. It seems probable that the heralds now no longer have that level of power. While this isnt conclusive it is where the evidence points. This WoB also indicates (its paraphrased so grain of salt) that the heralds have no innate power, indicating they access investiture the same as anyone else could. -
Yer she did recognize it, by saying on a two second look with a low quality tool that the gem was practically flawless with out then pointing to any flaws, she also went to the point of calling someone over to show how flawless it was who was excited to examine it with a higher quality tool. How can you say it would have leaked? Based on what observation in book, Nem said it was possible for stormlight to be held for years in the gem. I think its likely a fused or odium spren. But Nems assessment doesnt indicate that the gem isnt flawless, she was even excited to get better equipment to examine it, you dont do that for just any gem.
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Kaladin and Shallan’s stagnation and continued regression
Lemiltock replied to Vasherin's topic in Stormlight Archive
Perhaps her final truth is linked with current events and to share it in the flashbacks from book 2 would spoil it. The flashbacks are not a complete history, their flashbacks to key events, not the characters history, there are countless things missing from Dalinars or even Kaladins flashbacks. -
Kaladin and Shallan’s stagnation and continued regression
Lemiltock replied to Vasherin's topic in Stormlight Archive
Ill quote you bth because i feel you grasping on the same underlying issue. Brandon very early established 5 oaths, and that for lightweavers 4 of these are hard truthes about the radiant. How then is Shallan having another secret either a suprise or poor writing? As others have pointed out this truth may be about something done to her not by her. Also i will note, this is epic fantasy, was Rands growth finished in book 2? Did Frodo not change through out LOTR, character development is as intrinsic to epic fantasy as the fantastical elements. -
Kaladin and Shallan’s stagnation and continued regression
Lemiltock replied to Vasherin's topic in Stormlight Archive
So what youre saying is you would really rather that Brandon not so accuratley depict depression or trauma. Because the issues you raise with Kaladin are what depression is, and just because someone has had horrible trauma (Shallan) does not mean they cant have more, or worse trauma, its not a bag of everyone gets one traumatic event, some people have multiple horrific things happen to them and others have none. As for the more possitive light, Shallans truths are things about her that shes been lieing about, would you rather her final truth be I like chocolate when the others have been so significant? Kaladin was born with depression and has had a rough life, you dont just shake those things off and feel happy. From a story telling perspective, Kaladin has been working towards understanding his brand of honor, who to protect, what is right, can a person kill to protect. At each stage hes found deeper questions rather than a simple yes. This is far more satisfying in my mind than if at the end of WoK Kaladin gained magic powers, got a simple answer to his life long questions and suddenly the world was perfect. Journey, before Destination in my opinion -
That was also a quick assesment made after 5 seconds, practically in this instant could mean the artifabrian had not examined it long enough to confirm either way. How do you know it only holds stormlight for a few years? Currently all we have is a quick assessment that indicates the gem is practically flawless and that its hold something similar to voidlight for years (at least 6 by this point likely longer).
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@ggscv as @Karger said the gem is perfect. Heres the quote (ROW spoiler just in case)
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Mraize is confirmed to be from Roshar fyi
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We do heres a couple the first i think was before OB. The second indicates that Gavilar has not bonded but its based on the wording.
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@spaidapig I did missread that question XD thanks for the extra WOB
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Heres a WOB confirming hes from nalthis
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It is only the contents that needs to come from Braize, I.E. he sent an empty perfect gemstone there and captured something with it, not that he got the gemstone from Braize with something already captured. Although the second option could be possible (place tinfoil hat), the fussed do seem to have some in fighting, with only one herald to torture whos to say they dont use gemstones to capture rivals. (This is not likely or even plausible as theres no evidence and is just a throw away tin foil hat theory)
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Gavilar's Sphere and Refined Investiture
Lemiltock replied to Pagerunner's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I think from what Rlain its not likley to be refined investitute, maybe transformed (ruin has been mentioned) if not a fussed. Specifically i think the "vibrates wrong against my soul" part. -
Ive seen mention a couple of times about syls interlude and what was said seems to indicate that he has chosen to worj as a surgeon, even if he hasnt started yet. I have spoiler quoted the section from the interlude as im not 100% if it can be posted here.
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Gavilar was also sending stuff back and forth to Braize so they may have captured one. This would also allow the current fussed to think they had just not awakened yet, or it may have been one of the catatonic fussed, I doubt Odium has a fussed check in service on Braize.
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This i feel is still somethign else the Heralds are not bound by the oaths the radients are. So while yes a Radient taking up the oath pact would have an additional responsibility it is not a continuation of the same system and so not a "6th radient oath" I do like this, even if I am in the "not another oath pact" camp. I can see the spren helpping keep imortal people sane. The herlads insanity, however, is also a mixture of living too long which is what i think the spren wilk help with and Odiums torture, which I doubt the spren could significantly help with.
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Invested Entity Classification [ROW Ch 15/general cosmere]
Lemiltock replied to Kittalia's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I like this, but differ in that type 4 should be type 1. Afterall what does it matter where the sapience comes from. Nightblood achieved sapience form being i vested, not from their command. On this the command is likely Nightbloods intent. I do think Vasher may not uet be at this conclusing given A) he helpped create Nightblood and so may down play this and he may not understand the workings that made Nightblood like we do -
I think a big assumption you are making here is that the first time Vasher saw a spren he was like hmmm a piece of divinity these must be investiture that has achieved sapience. But given the lack of spren on Nalthis he likely just thought of them as creatures that now lived in the cognitive, especially given when they got to Roshar no sapient spren appeared. So yes he saw spren, but nothing he saw indicated he needed to change his system on invested/awakened objects.
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On the nothing new for Kaladin, Syl seemed aweful impressed when he split a highstorm with wind spren to protect the parsh. Also his "Fight with the wind" seems more than just windrunner fighting abilities. I also disagree with the anyone could do what he did leaderahip wise. Hes a dark eyes with a shash brand and he not only survived the bridge runs he savied the others (more mindset than physical) I dont even think dalinar could have done that.
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One minor thing, Mraize is from Roshar thoygh he has been off world. I think he will certainly include cosmere wide law (IE its not alomancy thats mixing with the fabrials its that they both have underlying principles. Heres and older WOB on it I think Brandon has mentioned that stormlight being the biggest will have more crossover but i couldnt find the quote.
