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1 minute ago, Araris Valerian said:
You win if everyone else is dead, I believe. That tends to hold true in most SE games.
so is the game plan to kill everyone? i've made that work before.
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14 minutes ago, Matrim's Dice said:
It was then when he realized he had no actual concept of how the rules work
...I'll try to get that sorted out :P. It does mean I don't have any thoughts on the mech discussion right now, but I am here. I don't know how present I'll be as I have a chem final today but it's N0 so that's fine I think.
Love to see I'm as popular as ever though <3
-conversion
-steal charges of investiture, gives abilities
-four charges stolen in one night from the same shard releases them from containment, one random (?) person who takes a charge becomes the vessel of that shard
-village wins when all 3rd parties are dead or if all shards are in containment and leaders of 3rd parties are ded
i think?
this is what i've figured out so far
Edit: also 3rd parties win by outnumbering and shards have Super Secret wincons
there are also different shardworlds that u can hop to during day that give a shardworld doc to chat in and special abilities
silverlight (which is where we all are) does not have a doc
actions can either target someone on the same shardworld as u or someone on silverlight, unless you are on silverlight in which case you girlboss your way into being able to target Everyone
I think
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found a study on the definition of a game and rules! have not read it!
Suits, Bernard. “What Is a Game?” Philosophy of Science 34, no. 2 (1967): 148–56. http://www.jstor.org/stable/186102.fight me i like chicagoedit: i will endeavor to make my 1000th post genuinely substantial. we shall see.edit 2: I found one specifically on children's games! this is more of what i was looking for.Linaza, José. “Piaget’s Marbles: The Study of Children’s Games and Their Knowledge of Rules.” Oxford Review of Education 10, no. 3 (1984): 271–74. http://www.jstor.org/stable/1050429.0 -
7 minutes ago, The Wandering Wizard said:
Hullo people
Just got one thing to say
Let the Lord of Chaos rule! >:P
And also who needs rules? >:P
-yes Chaos is lord ruler of the forums
-you wrote 'here' rather than 'hear' in one of our past PMs and it's been bugging me so I'm gonna mention it now
-we may need rules to functionally play a game. maybe. i'm sure someone out there has studied this.
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ok im here time to reread the rules and cry at the rollover time bc i cannot feasibly be awake at 1am and make my life work and yet the urge is strong
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25 minutes ago, Koloss17 said:
YOU MUST CHOOSE
I chose
t'was kadolin
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why must I choose
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I'll take spec doc! too much rules and too much ooa for me rn
edit: reading the signups and seeing "(sz)eth" makes me realize, is szeth pronounced sheth?? like in polish?? i never made the connection of sz in szeth being the same as the digraph sz wow
i dont like this
edit 2: oh no im debating joining asjhbl
rollover is at 1am tho
argh
edit 3: ok if i can understand the rules in the next hour i will join maybe
edit 4: ok fine i'll join as Letta Turson, a rosharan gap yar student who decided to intern at Silverlight on a whim.
Something in me wonders if whimsy's wincon is just decided by a rng
@Ashbringer in case it doesnt ping you when i edit
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Happy pride!!
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22 minutes ago, Ookla the Paragrapher said:
Wait, was your assumption that there was only two elims left until a third viable candidate entered the chat?
no, assumption was that cash saying ‘our numbers are close’ or something similar made me think that lol
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2 minutes ago, Ookla the Unknown said:
And yet, I'm listed as basically everyone's number two suspicion.
which, imo, can feel a bit like lots of people distancing without voting, but with my in active elim team credences i don’t think it’s that likely
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i don’t like this, for some reason. feels like too little activity with a too large train, and what i think we’ve been seeing from the elims is low to mid activity but voting most cycles
that being said, i’m still good with my cash vote as i think it makes sense- i don’t want to vote jnv out for similar things as what i got him mld for qf63.
edit: i mean they could have totally made the decision to bus for bus cred here, actually. e!cash means we’re relatively close to lylo from what i can gather. someone should do the actual n v n thing
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cash…
-tani is totally not the most inactive player, we have people who literally have not talked yet
-i uh,
new players amogus a lot a v, right? bc like, someone saying you’re evil does not mean you need to vote them, it just means you should do something villagery. that post was,,, so much defensiveness,,, i,,,
8 hours ago, Cash67 said:Urgency is needed if we want to live, mainly because I think that the numbers difference between the sides isn't that high
y’all know the thing where elims go like
10 v 2
9 v 2
7 v 2
that? something in me feels like we have e!cash and the elim doc has something very very similar to that in it
also alv do you know who has which blade (of illwei’s and sticks) or do you only know two people, one w one blade and one with the other but you don’t know who has which? did that make any sense?
i’m assuming you claimed shaman at some point lmao
and im nearing 1000 posts here so that’s super cool!
lack of talking makes me like, even more favoring v!jnv. pls reconsider your jnv votes, people
cash
edit: also @Cash67 did you edit your archer vote in? you should create a new post or @ ash because we’re not supposed to edit votes in
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2 hours ago, Ashbringer said:
... huh?
If you mean Transformation, it's a night action that gives you information on the night->day rollover. So whatever results it gives will match the Honorblade list for that next Day.
yeah that was my question, thx
tbh the lack of talking rn makes me thing mayyybe v! jnv
could also just be a symptom of a very dead thread though
edit (tani ninja):
Quoted1 i didn't check the shard at all until the second irl day because I felt sick and tired and didnt remember when the game started
and then i was gone most of the saturday, sunday, and monday after thanksgiving, missing almost all of c3
and i still haven't finished reading d1
so mostly rn im hunting down all of jnvs posts and trying to alignment-read them without any context
are you feeling better now?
I’ve actually also missed the first day/18 hrs of a couple games before lol
but yeah what you’re doing is good, i’d honestly recommend skimming most of d1 a bit because its a lot of posts and what’s happening rn is more relevant imo
edit2: so uh, 5/13 of us have talked so far, if my numbers are correct
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Spoiler
The Wandering Wizard (5): xinoeph512 / Ookla the Forgotten, _Stick_, Elkanah, Tani, Szeth_Pancakes / Ookla the Omniscient
The Bookwyrm / Ookla the Perpetual (4): The Wandering Wizard, JNV, Araris Valerian, Alvron
Szeth_Pancakes / Ookla the Omniscient (3): The Unknown Novel, Archer, Matrim's Dice
Matrim’s Dice (2): InfiniteInsanity, Chantara
Alvron (2): Illwei, Cash67
Kasimir (1): Kasimir
not voting: Bookwyrm, Shining Silhouette, Turtle
D3
_Stick_ (7): Araris Valerian, Shining Silhouette / Ookla the Debonair, Kasimir, Chantara, Archer / Ookla the Paragrapher, Alvron, Elkanah
Archer / Ookla the Paragrapher (2): The Unknown Novel / Ookla the Unknown, JNV
Chantara (1): _Stick_
Elkanah (1): Cash67
not voting: tani, turtle,
D2
The Bookwyrm / Ookla the Perpetual (5): Turtle / Ookla the POKE VOTE, Araris Valerian, Matrim's Dice, JNV, Cash67
Szeth_Pancakes / Ookla the Omnicient (2): The Unknown Novel, _Stick_
Elkanah (2): The Bookwyrm / Ookla the Perpetual, xinoehp512 / Ookla the Forgotten
xinoehp512 / Ookla the Forgotten (2): Kasimir, InfiniteInsanity
Araris Valerian (1): Archer
not voting: silho, kas, chantara, alvron, tani, elkanah
spoiler has vote counts if its a jnv/cash/stick/tun team; i dont really see it it’s definitely a lot of red in one place d2. that being said i am partial to e!cash and i could reconsider my v!tun read but i’d sort of like to wait for that. put it in spoilers and no bold bc i think that messes up the voting algorithms? im not voting any of these people but jnv
@Ashbringer does whoever got shalash’s honorblade get their knowledge of how many honorblades a person have that night or the day after? we could kinda clear whoever has the honorblade that way
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3 minutes ago, Araris Valerian said:
I think either Cash or TUN could be elim as well, based on the first VC we got D3. The votes on Archer and Xino could have an attempt to see what sticks. Really my only village credence for Cash is the Illwei kill thing which is kinda flimsy.
I’m still bothered by @Elkanah following Xino’s vote twice with no explanation in D1.
Xino probably looks better now? I don’t think it was clear at that point that Stick was in danger, so there’s not really a great reason to draw attention to another elim.
thoughts on a cash/tun/jnv team or is cash/tun either/or?
i think i gave tun a v read bc he voted along w stick and i’m not sure stick would follow a teammates vote like that but it could totally happen
edit: also gave elk v points for voting along w stick quite closely but again that’s a soft v
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8 minutes ago, Ookla the Implosion said:
That thing about the reads game in a not-active-enough night thread felt vil to me.
That and gut.
You just feel very... earnest to me ig? Idk exactly...
ok but like here’s the thing
you’re in my poe
you match the description of a low active elim team with low stakes d1
so like would you mind doing that reread on jnv? bc i’d definitely prefer for you to vote on someone you have a strong read on over just sheeping. I dont want what happened with the bookwyrm ml to happen here, especially when we dont have kas to tell us we’re all being dumb.
and like there’s this niggling thought of ‘maybe this is tmi!tani’ so uh
all that being said you can totally get out if my poe, you just haven’t given v vibes yet so
edit: and like i totally understand the gut read thing i often have trouble putting my reads into words
edit 2: i also felt very earnest in qf63 and kas can tell you how that went
edit 3: archer you “i find it interesting’ is scaring me
i just called the kas kill bc it fit w the kills we’ve been seeing lately: killing thread leaders/towncore and leaving low actives alive.
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36 minutes ago, Ookla the Implosion said:
Youknowwhat why not, I trust Poke Vote, may as well.
JNV
I'll reread stuff and see if I get a read on JNV. Until then, my vote stays. Probably.
tani why do u trust me
like genuinely what have i done to make you think that lol
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noooooo who healed me we literally have no pinch hitters but i dont have the mental capacity to play this game ._.
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noooooo kas :(.
im gonna go w jnv as well for now
edit: also we’re 100% seeing an inactive elim team
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10 minutes ago, Ookla the Tall said:
I once ran a blackout game where all the villagers were Thugs with a one-shot kill and all the elims had a % chance of surviving every kill :P.
somebody who actually plays in mashes (*cough*illwei*cough*) correct me if i’m wrong but isn’t this literally just MU ITA shots in mashes? i’m gonna check this
edit: yeah ITA is vig shots with a 15% chance of accuracy i think
but like in a 50 player game so
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WAIT @Ooklil' the Wei INTERESTING WAS A SCUMTELL
I FEEL SO VINDICATED LMAOOOOO
edit:
so uh, i’d do my normal ‘assume the wagons are different alignments and see what happens but i think v!archer is so likely it’s unnecessary, so instead i did this:
D1
The Wandering Wizard (5): xinoeph512 / Ookla the Forgotten, _Stick_, Elkanah, Tani, Szeth_Pancakes / Ookla the Omniscient
The Bookwyrm / Ookla the Perpetual (4): The Wandering Wizard, JNV, Araris Valerian, Alvron
Szeth_Pancakes / Ookla the Omniscient (3): The Unknown Novel, Archer, Matrim's Dice
Matrim’s Dice (2): InfiniteInsanity, Chantara
Alvron (2): Illwei, Cash67
Kasimir (1): Kasimir
not voting: Bookwyrm, Shining Silhouette, Turtle
D3
_Stick_ (7): Araris Valerian, Shining Silhouette / Ookla the Debonair, Kasimir, Chantara, Archer / Ookla the Paragrapher, Alvron, Elkanah
Archer / Ookla the Paragrapher (2): The Unknown Novel / Ookla the Unknown, JNV
Chantara (1): _Stick_
Elkanah (1): Cash67
not voting: tani, turtle,
D2
The Bookwyrm / Ookla the Perpetual (5): Turtle / Ookla the POKE VOTE, Araris Valerian, Matrim's Dice, JNV, Cash67
Szeth_Pancakes / Ookla the Omnicient (2): The Unknown Novel, _Stick_
Elkanah (2): The Bookwyrm / Ookla the Perpetual, xinoehp512 / Ookla the Forgotten
xinoehp512 / Ookla the Forgotten (2): Kasimir, InfiniteInsanity
Araris Valerian (1): Archer
not voting: silho, kas, chantara, alvron, tani, elkanah
which leaves me a poe of <chantara, tani, alv, araris, xino, insanity, cash, jnv> which is bigger than the speculated elim team but not by much, especially because i’m nearly certain at least one of <chant, alv, tani> is v bc why would three elims choose to not vote at once?
also v!elkanah is not a eod3 thing it’s a eod1 thing bc i don’t see two elims voting sequentially on the same person like that, i don’t think stick would like that
also can somebody protect kas today?
and wait actually lemme check ooa but if vig kills the nk target does vig get the honorblade? could be helpful if someone claims
edit 2: also i speculate the reason we’re not seeing low active kills is because the elims want padding bc we have a less active elim team but i’d need to check again to make sure
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5 minutes ago, Ookla the Debonair said:
Was this an admission????
smh i’m not sharing my doc w anyone :p.
it’s my doc elims don’t get to have it
im just special like that
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Long Game 95: The Fire of Ado's Light
in Sanderson Elimination
Posted
Hm. This is true. I'm making a spreadsheet.
This is also very true. If you become a vessel but don't use your powers, you don't end up with the Secret Wincon, right?