Illwei

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You said to @ you smh smh :P. Wonderful wonderful, keep those coming :P.

@Matrim's Dice I want you to switch to Quinn :P. Also I want you to not keep assigning these e/e reads that really don't make all that much sense if you really think about them :P.

She has though, no? *checks* She was on for a bit, but she implied in her most recent post that she thought she was going to die.

TJ started it, then left it alone. So...you started Brighteyes not because you thought they were suspicious, but becauase you didn't want to die? Trying to self pres earlier into the round is what puts us in these thunderdomes that don't lead anywhere. and if Brighteyes is an Elim, why isn't she voting on you? Add onto my list of thoughts: Brighteyes/Quinn e/e if Brighteyes flips e

Last minute vote switch: Activate! :P. :/. I disagree here though, because Quinn only got to three votes iirc before Brighteyes picked up. It feels more to me like Brighteyes is Counter-Wagon to get off of Quinn.

I don't like how little resistance this BE grinch has

I think this isn't the right thing to do, especially when you just said that you think the people up right now are village :P. I dislike ties a lot in most cases and leaving it up for chance leaves absolutely zero people satisfied with the outcome imo.

If we go down this reasoning then might as well look at him more because Elim!Doc!Matrim might have been trying to get discussion going to distract from the fact that he was an Elim!Doctor. And then look at Danex for speculating what roles were on the Elim team to distract from the fact that he's on the Elim team with those roles :P. I...See above reasoning :P. I don't think that's a good enough reason to clear someone- because when you say "crazy overestimations" that implies to me that might imply that you're overestimating to hide something. I think the point here is more like TJ's brighteyes thing? Kings was lurking obviously, and his posts were select responses, so the question is why those particular responses in this case. Brushing someone off because "they don't post much" is a reason we have such a great loss streak xD. >> My brain works. Definitely. Opened a PM to reply to someone this cycle and It had a saved message of complete gibberish. NOT E/E. I don't think they're e/e. :P. Mmmmm I dissagree. imo Elims feel like they need to justify things more. Placing a vote in self-pres but then being like "oh, no. I was also suspicious of them, that's why I voted" makes less sense to me. Especially in Liranil's case when she didn't express that before hand, and voted in self-pres near the end of the cycle. Liranil, that's it though :P. the fact that you're saying it wasn't just self pres, as if you feel the need to justify it more. I'm definitely different than that as an Elim :P. Yeah, you know everyone's alignment, but you still have to have some sort of trackable progression on your reads? So it's a lot easier to take notes and make reads on people as if I was village rather than come up with things on who I want to push :P. Maybe I play Elim wrong, who knows. Not for no reason? I didn't read the RP at first, but she's saying that she doesn't know why Ash is being minimally active, and throwing shade on that. Yo I had to talk to matrim about this already, I don't need to lecture you as well, do I? :P. ;-;. It doesn't feel like I'm trying to solve? ;-;. I mean, from what I know, GMs sometimes rng multiple distros and then choose one of them, or I think someone was talking in the Discord about RNGing and then allowing themselves one Edit? I really don't like speculating in-game about who you think the GMs would have assigned a specific role/alignment- it's RNG. :P. hm Thoughts: Liranil/Quinn probably not e/e, but- -Quinn/Liranil feels e/v with how Quinn is sticking up for Liranil so much. TJ/Quinn not e/e :P. Mat/Quinn not e/e. Quinn

In attempting a re-read I have concluded that I am tired and not wanting to do things this game my chaos is worn out from the LG and my thinking is word out from a different game and I'm sitting here not absorbing anything I read so next person to vote I will sheep you I am also letting you all know that I will be basically inactive next cycle. I know there's over 12 hours til then. just on my mind thought I'd say. fun fun.

Er- It's a joke from Sanderson Elimination :P. As that's generally where I stay on the Shard xD

Okay, that makes more sense. :P. I was trying to put the reasonings with the reads and some of them didn't exist :P. Unlike Matrim, I'm not a huge fan of the explanation here. The fact that she emphasized "I didn't vote for selfpres" doesn't make that much sense to me, because it feels like she's trying to get the guilt or whatnot off of her for TUOs death. I don't understand how this "pings village" :P. I at least don't think that Matrim/Liranil isn't E/E here. Is this the reasoning for @Matrim's Dice and @Quintessential's votes on me? Because we're all just generally active, no matter alignment. I do think that top posters usually have an Elim in there in some cases, but also that posting a lot is NAI for us :P. Will back this up :P. Matrim is always pretty defensive :P. I really don't like Matrim voting me here??? or Quinn, but like, they have no reasoning so I was just ignoring it??? but then Matrim joins??? I'm going to come back in a bit when I have actual thoughts because my brain isn't absorbing anything rn

Liranil

:ph34r\: Can you explain The difference between these two: What brought you to Null on this: And can you explain this a little more?

Well i mean my current theory is that Archer was killed because of something related to his PM- but if he was, then why wouldn't the Elims sabotage the hospital to keep him from talking about it?

Okay I'm starting to think this isn't it? @Straw If the hospital was sabotaged in C1, would C1 kills still go to the hospital or would it only start C2? EDIT: LMAO you edited this two minutes before I posted? xD

Hopefully you've gotten better since your first two games though, Quinn xD.

It's not that you haven't been acting like V!Quinn in those games, it's that you weren't acting like a villager in general.

Nothing about my suspicion on you has been meta? If so please point out where :P. because I don't see that :P. Just TJ's thing, and TJ isn't pushing you at all :P.

well it's a good thing we don't just rely on meta for suspicions no siree heheh.

From what I can remember, Archer's pretty good at getting village-read :P. I don't remember enough from his past games, otherwise. Idk: Quinn - Died Early LG Order - Up for the grinch :P. Liranil - Being sussed Orlok - Returning Dannex - Died Early LG BrightEyes - New? (2nd Game?) Matrim - Died Early LG Random Bystander - New? (2nd game?) Young Bard - returning Kings_way - Mostly Inactive Reading - Mostly Inactive? Ashbringer - Gears - Archer - Illwei - TJ Shade - Tis what I see. These are the five people that I- ...*looks at name in list* ...If I was an elim, but also not me? ...would want to kill, ignoring the fact that they might actually be Elims with not-me in this scenario :P. I guess we could think of why Archer instead of Ash, Gears, Illwei, or TJ here. Idk. I'm still thinking it might have something to do with the PM he had with the claimed Vanilla? maybe not neccessarily to do with the fact that they're vanilla, but them. Idk.

I'm wondering - If there's only one doc, would that mean there's only one messenger? because if there's one of each then I'd assume that they'd be v/e because they're both communication roles kinda? At the same time as I'm writing this, I think about how the doc has no real power. the people can talk without the doc existing, and the docs get published, so it's not a very useful role to either side and I don't know what I intended to say here so let's just move on lmao I just don't get why people are making e/e pairs like it's so much easier to find people who aren't e/e and work from there Imo idk I had more things to say but I walked 'away from the computer and forgot them

Why the brig? They only have one kill, so if it was one of them then there's no reason for them not to come out and say it if it was them. Rereading through D1, things that Ping me (idk what ping means in this sense okay deal with it :P): - Matrim's "use it well". Yeah there's nothing here except for that it's just a weird thing to say?? idk. I'm not a fan of people telling the village/individuals how to use things. while this doesn't really fall into that category, it feels...performative? in a way? Like, I was thinking that either he's the doctor or..?? it just. idk. yeah. - Danex's fixation on Bard. idk man, just like. Danex grabs onto this "he didn't see Archer's post, that's sus" and then kinda holds it reaaaal tight. That just feels like a strange thing to latch onto, with all the other posts in thread. That only really makes sense though if anyone sussed before is E/E with Danex, and he didn't want to vote on them. - Illwei's vote on DeTess. C'mon Illwei. they're not even in the game. - Quinn/Matrim interaction bottom of P2. Yeah I don't even know what pings me about this. it just. feels off? ?? Quinn seemed like she was way too scared about being voted off in like the first few hours with two votes on her. and then this conversation where she was like "I don't care what you think of me, you're voting on me" ?? to which Mat replied "Don't worry, I'll be moving it later" ?? I don't- - Matrim's "why say anything that discredits that?". I just really don't understand why- Like if I had the same suspicion as Mat, but my reasoning was awful, I wouldn't just be like "means to an end", I'd go back and look at it like "whoa did I do something wrong here." yeah. Overall I really don't understand Matrim/TUO thing. I thought Mat was the one leading the TUO thing, but at the same time he was saying the whole time that he didn't think TUO was an Elim? He never Voted on TUO but he was the main person arguing with him in the thread, which- Yeah I just don't understand that. Matrim I don't think Mat/Quinn is E/E, but I don't remember wh- that interaction in thread. bottom page 2. That felt not E/E to me. Also, this is like the only thing Archer has said that I could think would be why he was killed, unless he mentioned something in his PM, but that goes back here. I was wondering if his PM buddy didn't want Archer to end up telling anyone else who they were. idk. Either that or something about the Elim Doctor, but idk.

can the doctors use multiple colors and try to convince people there's more than there are? :P.

There's the part of me that wants to vote matrim and there's the part of me that feels bad about it but hey [/b]Matirm[/b]