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Gears - I always read him suspicious. I was hoping that after his Elim game I would be able to trust him more, but a combination of mechanics and me dying D1 made it hard to see anything on him. I think I have ideas, but I'll have to wait. Him not posting often isn't AI for him, especially because he had his debate thing (wait, is that still going on? how's it going so far/How'd it go?) but he has been posting less ideas and more responses. Illwei - Now the problem here is the whole TWTBAW thing. I'm always reading people as TWTBAW and I'm wrong, and I realized it's because of my playstyle. I don't try to be village normally unless I'm an Elim, so I end up being read as Elim when I'm village and village when I'm an Elim (though I have only had one Elim game here, it has happened elsewhere, so I'm just going to call it a pattern.) and then I'm always wrong about them because sane people want to act village always. Quinn - hey seem to be thinking out loud a lot, so I'm inclined to read them village. though they have done a lot of "Elim slips" I don't think that that's something they would do as an Elim, so, yeah. I'm going to have to wait for more I guess, as she's been talking a lot. (I think this is due to the lack of PMs right now :P.) Nothing she has said has been strictly village, but- see here we are on TWTBAW again. She's slipping, which doesn't seem like something Quinn would do, which means she's probably not trying to act village, meaning she's probably village, ya know? Matrim - So I can't really ever read Matrim- looking through past games I think I marked him suspicious every time. I haven't seen anything said by him that's been sooooo village, and he hasn't talked much at all in comparision to how he usually is. (school?) so those are two points against him for now. On one hand I could listen to him about reading me village, but on the other hand...he could be trying to pocket me because he thinks I know his tells. or something. idk. would make more sense to kill me off though. idk. I mean, he is acting differently from when I was elims with him.... Danex - Danex doesn't seem to be acting like Danex at all tbh. there might be outside things that are causing this, but usually Danex is very talkative and debate...a...tive...and has a strong opinion. Here, they just did a whole flippy floppy follow the crowd thing. the only problem, as I stated before, the whole flipping from connie to me thing makes little sense to me, coming from Elim!Danex Sfs - Sfs hasn't really talked a lot, and tbh I don't remember how they were in the other games...They were pretty loud in the other games, but I'm not so sure they haven't been in this game. Though, by the fact that I can't remember if they have been or not, they probably aren't. So my main point against SfS is that they aren't as memorable as they have been in past games with them. Araris - I got nothing for Araris. Never do. there's nothing I can think about for Araris until later cycles. They seem to be village from their posts so far, but again, I...can't Araris.... TJ - TJ defended connie and threw shaded almost everyone on her train, but then....marked them village in his reads...don't know what to do with this, as they haven't said much of anything else, and probably won't until night. XP - I don't think XP is being very suspicious. I can see a situation in where XP was hard defending a villager because he knew they were village, but again, I have done the same to gears because they die D1 so often. it also doesn't feel like something Elim!XP would do, so if XP flips Elim then Gears is more suspicious in my mind. Books - I agree with Matrim about that one books post that screams village. I don't think that they've said much else, but that post is enough for me to put them at the top of my list for now. might change later of course, but just something I don't see the point in an Elim pointing out. They were pretty good in their first Elim game though, so... :P. Lotus - In their one post they try and shade me for...posting a lot? which is something I do normally. Don't understand it, and it...doesn't feel like lotus to me. Lotus is usually someone who posts a lot of posts but doesn't say a lot, and them not doing that this time, (when I've sussed them for it before) doesn't feel right to me. Might be external things, (and how long this thread is....) though. Connie - Thoughts said earlier. I'm not going to recap them but I guess I'lll just: Stink - Elim read. Might change. Who knows. Jester - They are actually saying things, unlike their last elim game. this makes me want to read them village, because they didn't neccessarily need to say anything: they got away well enough without it last time. then again they did only say one thing. so who knows. Alvron - I've only been in one game with Alvron, and they weren't very active (or at least not as much as this game so far) so I'm not sure about them. Their encouragement of gears doesn't seem suspicious to me (apparently like it did to TJ), but like someone encouraging a newer player to keep doing things. not AI, just a thought. Eternum - They've been active, and somewhat in the conversation when they could ahve just ignored it. Either e/e with connie or v/v with connie Imo. there's no need for an Elim to engage in a v/v debate, so the fact that they did makes me read them...well, it depends on the flip. the only problem with that is their recent vote on connie, which makes no sense if I follow that logic. So- I guess it could also be v/e with connie flipping Elim. More suspicion on him from me if she flips Elim. Fura - They've been somewhat in the connie/Illwei debate, but not to the extent Eternum has, and not sure if...they're trying...to pocket...me...
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I agree with this, especially with them choosing to switch onto me then. Though it wouldn't make sense to me, unless Danex/Connie was e/e, and that doesn't make sense because Danex joined the initial train on Connie when they really didn't have to.
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If you want an example of me as an Elim then QF46 or LG69 are there for you to look through :P. ...QF46 might be...different...so not the best one to look at :P. I- So I can't really self-meta or something here, because no one listens to that sorta stuff, (:P) but if I was an elim, knowing that if connie was an Elim and me backing off would look suspicious, I would stay on, not wanting to seem suspicious :P. (this is what happened to Vapor :P) EDIT: yes :P.
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Because I'm getting worried and paranoid. did I mention I don't like killing people? Yeah, something I need to get over, of course, but - I was planning on looking through and trying to find someone else I found suspicious but I've now waited too long :P. I can't read Connie, and though there are differences in her playstyle, there have also been differences between the past three games, which I pointed out in the past three games. my problem with that though is she didn't acknowledge that this game: she just said that she was playing this game differently than the last three. (even though, as I said, she wasn't playing the same in those three). That's why I'm not sure. She seems to be hyper-aware of her changes, which is concerning She talked as if she played the past three games the same, which she didn't She was different in each of those games, and so that might mean her being different means nothing I definitely felt like I had to play down my stress when people were voting on me (er, something I think I abandoned possibly. possibly not) so her 'acting' isn't exactly AI, kinda. Likewise. While you think I don't say enough, I think you speak too much. you say so many words it constantly worries me that you're hiding something in them. Oof you can want that. When I used to explain myself people would use it against me. I'm not going to change my playstyle because people find it suspicious, as I have already done that and people still find me suspicious. I'm not going to play how you would, or how Araris would, or how Connie would. In addition to that, it's D1. I shouldn't need reasoning for a vote placed in the beginning of D1, (even though I did somewhat). If I do this again at lylo (or like any cycle where there's actual evidence) feel free to yell at me.
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I was about to say something lol. I thought it was Reading? Anyways Uh Some stuff to respond to and I'll try but i have stuff to do today so I apologize if I'm not often here. I don't want to kill Connie or Gears right now I don't think
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option two, it's a yeah sure I totally believe that *couch* kinda mhhhmmmmmmmmm
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See, you say it's not aimed at anyone, but I feel your stare :P. One point does not a pattern make. See, if we keep trying then eventually we'll be right :P. mhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmm.
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*couch* People haven't voted since then
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huh. hehe..he? Yeah, agree with this. fine chance that we're just two villagers having a good time. However I was justifying Connie being village by no one defending her. Yet here you are. Defending her. You also did vote on her too, no? so my logic is flawed. eh. No she is not. 0.o .... Anyways in all seriousness the only thing that makes me think Matrim is village rn is this post: ... ... Hold up, Just read through the thread, can't find the post. Okay cool. Mat is no longer a village read. I mean, I don't have much to go on (and my alarms don't usually work right) but this: THIS I don't like. Sets off my alarms. Here's the problem: I can't for the life of me remember a game in which Matrim read me as Village, and one of us wasn't an Elim. as I am not an Elim, I am inclined to believe he is. I know, I know, bad logic. So he's not at the top of my list. Neither is Connie though.
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Looks like somebody is missing playing the game :P.
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How would that? protect you? Aaand by this flawed logic therefore you should vote yourself, as I am more experienced and will help more than you :P. If this is how things worked we'd be voting out the newest players
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Oh no absolutely not for me :P. I feel so bad about killing people all the time, if you ever see my in an Elim doc...I- when trying to figure out who to kill I just, I never want to kill who the best kill is :P. or anyone :P. My first game Hael just was like "I'm killing so and so" and we were just like coolio bye. Anyways- Getting back on topic...
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Of what? Of quinn's, yeah. not of mine, and you included this in responses to me. Not sure who was the ringleader...we kinda just...all did our own thing.... I would say I understand, but my first game I think I was definitely just as think-y. Just not thinky enough I don't wanna talk about it
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Wary of the villager claim. yeah, I know, villager claims. But still. Also- What? The best part about being an Elim is the thinking!!
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Yeah, rather not keep talking about it though, kinda off topic :P. no no, keep talking. I'm proud of it
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At the same time, there were more people advocating against Gears, but I guess it's not "the most experienced" and just "a more experienced compared to you" because otherwise you'd be listening to Araris or Stink rn :P. EDIT: Bad plan? I we won that game :P. Thanks to Ash for defending Kyne for a few cycles
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Right! this reminds me...I need to find...the quote....huh... So where was this last game? you seemed very confident, and this goes against how you've been playing this game. EDIT: Oh sure yes please let's please ignore the fact that I basically handed over two Elims in LG69 :P. Uhhh, honestly though, strange way of seeing things.
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MR 46, did you read the dead doc? :P.
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Oh no no no I was talking about my god tier Elim-finding skills last game :P. But of course, I would never refer to myself like that :P. Had to try and find someone to do it for me, make me seem...humble
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Hey hey hey I'd just like to announce to everyone who wants to kill me that remember what happened last game? TJ, tell em. Yeah yeah yeah now I'm probably off to look at everyone and whatnot. Probably go eat some ice cream too or something.
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I was about to quote this with something like "I sense sarcasm" but I highlight things to quote them like a heathen. I believe they said that they'd think I'm a neutral then. I mean, who knows, me/connie could be v/v if they flip v. I'm not 100% on connie here but who's ever 100% on their reads
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No sympathy ;-; none at all from the players who just killed me off last game too ;-;
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Yeah, np. it happens :P. so 6:00 your time tomorrow.
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Good for Mat. :P. Fun Fact: I know it may seem crazy (wait, or is that just me..) but I in fact am not Mat. I know, I know, I get us mixed up sometimes too.
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I think I misunderstood myself, I mean out of us two...as in..not us. yeah. coulda said that way better. I think that "not being a special role" is too easy of an excuse for me to be completely satisfied with it. EDIT: Uh I see ash's name but imma give a vote count because I think giving VCs is scummy and yeah Danex (1): Mat Connie (2): Illwei, Fura (are they pocketing me here?,,,, XP (1): Araris Gears (2): Stink, TJ
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