Mat
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I don’t think it was, though. I’ve said this multiple times— what did it gain us? Paranoia? The elims would have been very concerned about the level of scans and it Fadran’s claim seemed perfectly placed to mess with that. We’ve seen no proof of the role (granted, it’s kind of a hard role to prove) but that’s also not really a point in its favor.
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Like role wise, or meta wise? Both seem fine to me, tbh. Meta wise would be a bit weirder but I don’t see any glaring problems with it. And there could be a sixth teammate, potentially.
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First time JNV voted this game was with a Fadran wagon leading, noted.
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I think the v!Archer case is better than the e!Archer case, but the same could be said about a lot of people Fadran is probably the person I can’t think of a solid reason to v read but the inverse is the e case is paranoia I agree with Aman that I’d rather collapse this world though since I know I’ll be paranoiding till the end of the game until we kill him Edit: Ninja’d by Bip
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Hmm right yeah I think I knew that >> What I know and what I tinfoil is blurring into nothing helpful, I've sorta fallen off the face of the earth lately which is too bad. I've had a busy couple days but I'll try to get back into it. I don't think the elims would have 2 similar roles (which honestly I could read that as another point towards e!you in that Tani wouldn't be an RPer since e!Steel already role copies, and Tani not being an RPer was a point Aman made for e!you awhile back but that's reaching real far lol) and so for me e!Sart does imply v!Archer. You're right about Sart's role being completely unknown though. Think he'll tell us if we ask? In all seriousness, though, what's the Archer case? Is it just PoE? If this is true the remaining elims are literally just Araris/Bip/Wiz/Orlok with Tani/Sart being already dead, and with the level of rolechecking going on I kiiiiind of doubt they just made up a role . And I guess Wiz would have to be an e!CV, like Ash is saying. Evil Wiz almost always equals evil Fae but the inverse isn't as absolute, imo. I think casting doubt on the scan result was the whole point, I mean, if it isn't, why not just RB Randby? The fact that they didn't implies that they had some plan of what to do with the result. Or like I think has been brought up, didn't have a RBer anymore. But idk if I believe that. Sart as a RBer makes sense to me and the thematics of being a RBer who blocks incoming actions towards them is a thing that exists.
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Doesn't Sart have the same role though? Cause you and TJ both failed to target him on the same night. That I think makes Archer's role village sided since I'd only buy the elims have one of those. Also, am I the only one weirded out how we've got like at least two free scans in this game Like what is happening Are the elims just too inactive to follow along well enough to stop it? >> It's either that or they just didn't care that Steel got scanned. Which in a weird way almost makes me think he was honest about his Tie Guy results but that's a tinfoil theory for later
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Then how would you explain v!Steel? Cause e!Troll!Fadran is the only think I can think of. And tbh I think that could just be his explanation for trolling Randby, when if he had just told us that he trolled Randby without an explanation, that obviously would have looked weird. I wouldn't phrase it as 'make it up for a derp clear' but I suppose it's a similar idea.
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Once per game, or can you do that multiple times?
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No, but I have more faith in our ability than that. And I don't know how I feel about your best and only pairing being the person who shot Tani. It might be true, yeah, but why not add e!Fadran, based on v!Steel, into the mix? Maybe I'm being nitpicky, I'm just surprised you don't have any further ideas as you've consistently been the most engaged out of anyone.
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You claim that you think Tani is the only dead elim. You clearly also suspect Bip is an elim. Who are their other 3-4 teammates?
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Hmm, I could see that, yeah. Or he just is e with the same role as Archer. Was he? I don't remember that, I would have said Striker or Drake was in that category. But you're right that we haven't verified that. You also didn't answer my question If TJ's lying about his actions, he's likely the e!RBer, but sure, go ahead :P.
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I just think it’s weird Aman doubted Randby’s scan but saw Sart’s and just was like “oh yeah I buy that” Like I get that Randby was more likely to be messed with (and I still can’t tell whether or not that’s still possible >>) but it’s hard to take Aman seriously at the point when he’s hardcore just tunneling on Bip. Aman, who are the other elims of Tani is the only dead one? All of them.
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inb4 Aman still thinks the only elim we've killed so far is Tani
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Threadmaster is Ash's claimed role, the one that can survive being exed. In other words, Sart was not in fact a Threadmaster. The theory went that Sart's last second and blatantly false claim was to draw the exe to himself, saving Steel, and him being unexeable made a lot of sense in that regard. I realize now it could have just been a role preference thing, if they were e/e, but it's hard to say because EoD last turn makes no sense no matter what way you slice it. I read this from Drake: And then this from Archer: And then this again from Drake: Which is where my conclusion came from. Which I do still stand by, by the way. If Sart was a village vote analyst then I actually don't know what he was doing. Hello! My phone autocorrects Mat to May all the time as well.
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*Tries to find a format for a "That was unexpected" meme* *Fails*
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Steel? Cause yeah Threadmaster Sart is kinda the only explanation for a claim that’s just Obviously fake lol I think that still means Sart is evil but that can be dealt with another time. It still doesn’t make sense why he didn’t just let him die like Aman said but it makes… more sense? Also Aman like I just do not understand your reads, despite being heavily involved with like half the kills in this game your only elim read is Biplet, including those who have died??? I just don’t understand how you can remain on that hill rn
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Tbh I question why e!Sart would be so blatantly obvious here in saving e!Steel but I struggle to see why Sart claims that anyway lol Edit: Oooh that’s an idea, Archer
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Sart
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Ah right. I think it’s a waste both because Randby already scanned Steel and because he’s up for the exe, but hey, it’s not my scan :P.
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Technically, killing him doesn’t help with verifying his alignment :P.
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I guess the Sart one was already there.
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How do you feel about these side trains forming?
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That’s what I mean though Like you thought that Sart RBd you, and you RBd Sart, and he won the toss, yeah? Which makes sense, sure. But that has nothing to do with Aman’s action.
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I’m not sure how effective arguing that towards Drake will be since his reason for reading Sart village is the same as yours to read him elim And I mean why would Aman and your actions both failing be a reason for him to be the RBer? RBers can hit one person at a time, last I checked.
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Fadran Let’s see what happens!
