Mat

Fair enough

I think they already have tried. Sart's first post on page 3 of the thread I swear gave me chills reading it again (when you know you're too into this game). Now that my post gives an idea of how Sart could be telling the truth about his alibi and still be Bleeder, it is clear to me that Sart's 4 'scenarios' are exactly this. None of the scenarios he gave imply Bleeder having another role. I present option 5 to explain the lack of the Day 1 Bleeder kill:

This I agree with. Though, I don't think there was a Bleeder kill C1. The only way there could have been was if Bleeder targeted Araris for some reason, which doesn't seem likely. This explains how Sart's alibi can technically be true: He is a Smuggler, and he did move Arraenae's vote C1, maybe even as a set-up for an alibi he might need to make later. Then, he Bleeder-killed on C2 and C3 and used the bandwagon votes as an excuse for why he didn't move a vote. If Sart is Bleeder- which I think he is- he probably will use that visible ability this turn. Maybe he doesn't know who Winsting is and needs more time. Maybe he just wants us to trust him to give him more time. Either way I think lynching him as our top Bleeder suspect is a smart idea. Thoughts?

I asked Joe after Sart said that, Bleeder can have multiple roles. So it still isn't completely ruled out.

So, for Bleeder suspects, who'd you think? Currently it's Sart as top suspect, though Bugsy and actually myself have been mentioned...by Sart. And the elims are blending in right now pretty easily anyway. The only one we know is Pyro, and he outed himself. Otherwise it's just speculation, and while this is my first game I'll say that seems normal.

Bleeder can only be lynched, making a situation where the elims deal with them be the elims outing themselves being the only ones voting. Not that I would mind that but it just won't happen from the elim perspective. Which is why Pyro keeps asking for help.

Why. Bleeder is out there, Pyro proposed an idea to find them that may be slightly controversial but if it works then this is great. Why would you not want to attempt to lynch Bleeder? As far as I can tell Pyro is not trolling. I believe he actually is making a serious attempt to find and eliminate Bleeder because he realizes that if Bleeder kills Winsting both teams lose, ours and his. Once Bleeder is lynched I'm all for getting rid of Pyro but for now I think he is better off staying.

So the elims thought DeTess was Bleeder C1.

Hmm, are you a Gossip?

What's a timestamp?

Currently, if we give them Winsting, they would probably make sure not to kill them as to not end the game suddenly and give Bleeder the win. And well, after Bleeder's dead it's an all-out war anyway so what difference does it make if they know which specific villager is Winsting or not? I'm with whoever said Sart was sus when he was the only one who didn't think Winsting should claim. I personally think he should as to survive, if he hasn't already. Yes, this would be a smart idea. However no one has survived a night kill since he said this.

Wait is that a thing? *looks it up* It is... on November 20th. Sad we have to wait that long. (Though there is a Child's day on the first Sunday in June, next week)

ha ha ha

Yes

Along with what DeTess said, I don't think Bleeder would claim elim as a strategy, as that is basically asking to be lynched without protection and being on their own team, Bleeder has no outside protection from the lynch. That being said, Pyro is a confirmed elim so keeping him around might not be the smartest idea, but I'd rather go for Bleeder. Still I am honestly impressed with you first impression, @TJ Shade. Being a new player myself I can confirm this is not easy and you made it look so!

Signing off, may post analysis in the morning. Interesting to learn about IKYK's, sounds like those could create some interesting situations.

Devotary's defense made sense to me, if DeTess claims otherwise then I might change this back. Sart for the reasons Pyro and Bugsy gave, those I agree with.

Yes, exactly. Whichever escort that didn't target me has a chance of having targeted Bleeder. I think they should say something. Now that I think about it, whichever Escort targeted me actually has no reason at all to claim. But whoever targeted whoever else should.

The problem with this is that if Bleeder did get targeted by an escort C1, then they most certainly won't speak up. We need the escorts to speak up on who they targeted so we can narrow it down the other way, as when it comes to finding Bleeder the escorts should have no problem speaking up. This... is 100% true. The cycle number doesn't work out for you to have done all the things that Bleeder supposedly did, if you are a Stalker. @DeTess, confirmation?

Good to know, good to know... decipher success. Anyone willing to claim to have targeted me C1 with their escort ability yet?

Huh, didn't know about the impersonator part. Wilson Right now I am going with Archivist's comment on how Devotary is suspect for Bleeder because of their meddling in the first cycle. I quoted Archivist earlier this cycle if anyone wants to read that, on my first post today. Also, to help with Sart's third option, I was targeted by an Escort C1. I am not Bleeder, if I was I would not be admitting to being targeted. Therefore whichever escort targeted me C1 please reveal yourself. Then the other escort will know who they targeted C1. This will be Bleeder.

A shop that, when opened, would spawn an empire

I actually did, I went back to your post and read it wrong again. I honestly don't know what happened, like I said I have been mostly ignoring/skimming your posts as you are an outed elim.

This is me being a new player and also speed-reading through your posts. Sorry. My brain mixed the words 'alternate' and 'alternative' together for some reason, promise it was a miscommunication.

Emphasis mine. I just want to know what this means.... Edit: Oh my bad (ninja'd by Bugsy). What's BG mean? Edit Edit: Bodyguard probably, thought about it.