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Craven shrugged. "How am I supposed to know? Doesn't she disappear?" It hadn't clicked in his mind yet that they were being taken away from the battle.

I mean. Couldn't you have just started with the Pendant? :P. Is that out of the question? (Apparently Archer also said this. I should read the whole thread before commenting) I don't think being vanilla prohibits you from getting items. Maybe that's not what Archer meant though. ...Yeah... I could see that... Taking a page out of Quinn's book here- Player list: Me, Archer, Ash, Quinn, Books, Szeth, Jon, Azmine. People that are confirmed village: Me, Archer, Ash. People that are very likely village: Jon (extra life), Azmine (hehe secret) People that are left: Quinn, Books, Szeth There is one elim in here: Quinn, Books Leaving: Szeth for the fourth. No? I guess there could not be a fourth, or I guess technically Azmine could have been lying to me, though I don't really get the point of that. Could Quinn/Books be e/e and just be laughing their heads off? That's something to be paranoid about xD I'd probably be convinced to vote for Books or Quinn too. Probably the former quicker than the latter, but I'm likely gonna end up on whatever train has the most people cause I have no clue.

...Pretty sure they can't? Are you thinking of the Spellbook? :P. At what point was Ash's claim? It was... before, but like at what point was he confirmed confirmed?

Okay that's what I thought but I wasn't sure :P. I guess that virtually confirms them elim then, huh, since I know I'm village, unless there's some... severe shenanigans going on with like Jondesu or Azmine or something. So yeah I guess I'd still be just fine with a Szeth exe. Do you want to go for Danforth first, or does it not matter? Because I'd rather exe Szeth then try to wrap my head around this, but I'd probably support either of these. I'm basically deferring to what you guys say at this point xD

I didn't take an action :P. Didn't want to go insane and figured you guys had the scans covered. It appears that Szeth is not Danforth. Cool. Does that mean they're cleared, or could they still be elim? I can't remember what that means >.<

That's true, yeah. But offness != elimness just ask MR45 me, so I guess if you're voting them it's off of point 2 and the fact that yeah, there's not a lot to go off of anyone else I still don't agree with point 2, but I understand it at least. Good question. Uh, probably about standard, meaning an increasingly paranoid village read that increases in paranoia incrementally until she inevitably flips one way or the other. Yeah. That. Edit: I guess I could say that my metaness argument makes my vil read a bit stronger though. And my paranoia a bit stronger too.

How bout I defend Illwei for her. Sounds fun. Note that I don't especially read her as village, just that I disagree with some of the points Szeth raised. See, the thing is here is like- yeah, the elims want to kill the village doctors, but what elim would be that blatant about it? Sort of a meta argument I guess but I don't really see it. Personally, I think that Engineers are more important. Biologists are also more important, probably Navigators too. Similar as before, like what elim would be this blatant? But it's not that cause it's not like Illwei is advocating for an Agent victory, or an elim victory, just that she'd treat an Agent victory where the village triggered it as a village victory. Which I can see and I don't see how it's AI. Eh, I don't think it was a 'specification of people they're suspicious of', just things that were 'Noted', for better or for worse. It's unrelated and not necessarily a sus list. Though I do think it probably should have had some Exp in there.

Oh yeah, I guess that's also a distinction :P. I'd never vote someone out for an unprompted blatant elim claim, whoever it is But yeah, agree to disagree. Thanks for the VC. Somehow it's 1-1-1-1-1 so that's fun :P.

Started claiming elim, I should add. He's shown through experience that voting him for claiming isn't a good enough reason. That's sorta what I meant when I said it's only gamethrowing if you don't ignore it.

When Gears started, he got voted off D1. Over and over. And was village, every time. It's different from other players because he's the only one claiming elim- it is different from other players. Really, it's less of a write-off and more of just pretending he hadn't said anything. Gears claiming elim means as much as Gears claiming nothing. ...Maybe that is what a write-off is, though. I dunno. What would you suggest, voting Gears off every time he claims? (Anyone have a vote count? I'm doing a bad job keeping track this game.)

It also depends on whether the Internal Affairs people treat their action primarily as a protect, or as a roleblock.

Well, that depends on if you voted on either of them last cycle. I mean... I dunno what it would accomplish if it were true. Like, Gears successfully got his teammate thrown in the Brig every cycle? That wouldn't be good for them, especially if it were their rolescanner, and it's not like anyone is marking both/either as definitively village right now. So I'm going to say no on this one.

@Gears, your explanation is sound and I understand it. On the surface it doesn’t really look like it was helpful but you’re right in that it might actually be. @Jondesu it’s only gamethrowing if you don’t disregard it imo

Yes, that's what I was getting at

I was gonna say- This is not a village move imo :P. But I don't think it's an elim!Gears move to do this and then explain that he did it. So I'm staying on @Experience, who I want to come say something

To be completely honest I have half a mind to take no action tonight and let you guys take care of the scans so as to not risk going insane because geez RNG hates me this game

I can also scan Szeth, or maybe Jondesu for a check. Was there a reason to clear him? I can't remember. Anyway, agree on Quinn-Books scanning each other.

I genuinely don't know what this is referring to. That's what I meant :P.

Hmm now we know that TUO/Exp isn't e/e though :P. I think I will throw a vote on Exp now. As a test. Edit: @Experience

Why are you so interested in running all these surveys? :P. I'd rather avoid the ties if we can, personally.

The rule is in place mostly to avoid player A-player B communication, so I think a message that everyone gets anon and no one has a code, that's not meant for dodgy communication, is fine. I assume that's what that is, anyway. I dunno. @Azmine_king you around?

I think there's a new rule for SE in general against code, since the AG. I don't remember exactly. That the Agent is inactive? :P.

And I counter this by saying that I don't know how to read Exp and am not comfortable voting him right now :P.

I was under the impression that those exed go straight to the dead doc? TUO cause I want to see if anyone else wants to vote Tani

Exeing Illwei is a bad idea imo. Don't think they've done anything deserving of it though I don't remember why they're being voted on.