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I've found that a lot of people who read stormlight are pretty adverse to this kind of foreshadowing. For example, I would bet a lot on Renarins name being significant and yet a lot of people always come out and deny it whenever it's pointed out. I think the reason for this is that viewing the future is of the enemy and thus forbidden, but we need to understand that not every voidbinder might be in opposition to team Dalinar. I think it's also worth noting how Mraize thinks Veil is the real one and the sleepless think of her as having the heart of a thief.

They can leave their kid in charge of uncle Balat, who according to his chapter is the only sane brother of Shallan.

I'm not sure I completely get what everyone else is saying about this subject and normalcy but here's what I think on Shallan. Sorry in advance for the likely to be poor formatting. A lot of characters, especially main characters, have very deep issues in stormlight and to me a core theme of the series is accepting and moving on(?) from them. What looks like the main villain keeps trying to make people refuse to acknowledge their issues and pain, which I think is a very big tell. Dalinar in OB is a clear example of this for me. He acknowledged his own past and accepted his sins and pain as his own, which in my opinion led to his "healing" in the sense that he became a better person and is now much more functional. Kaladin is someone who has a big tendency towards depression and we are seeing him try to live with it. We see that in the ending of OB he does get better, both in letting go of his vengeance to protect someone he cares about and when he looks at a rock like Tien did. He is not there yet in accepting everything and completely managing his issues, but the story reads like he's on his way. In fact one of his problems is the opposite of what Odium would want, he cares too much about everything and has a hard time accepting those emotions of pain and loss, instead of giving them away he makes them his own even when they aren't. I view Shallan in a similar way to these two. While we don't fully know what happened when she was a kid and killer her mother we do know that she hasn't accepted all the truth of her childhood. She spent a lot of time refusing to acknowledge her pain and issues and kept trying to put on masks for her brothers. There's the Shallan mask she normally uses, the witty one. Then when forced by her oaths to accept parts of what she did she doubles down on not accepting them, which makes her crack even more and pushes her on a downward spiral. This makes her create two new masks, both created to fit very specific needs. I keep saying masks but maybe it'd be more appropriate to say they are facets of her, since I believe they are all part of Shallan as a whole, just fragmented to fit whatever she needs the most and ignore what she doesn't want to see. In RoW we see that pattern keeps pushing her to accept her truth even when she clearly doesn't want to, which hopefully will lead to her accepting her feelings and pain, accepting herself for what she is and healing as much as she can. I think no one will disagree that having your psyche fragmented isn't something positive and for her particular case even in RoW she's still doubting that "she" has control of what's going on. To me her path looks like she's on her way to face the truth and heal, which hopefully will lead to her becoming a United personality again. Like posters before me have said sometimes the damage done is too deep and the way to move forward and live is to accept the multiple personalities, since irl(I think, don't quote me on this) actually letting go of the personalities is so hard that it's often not even a goal when talking about treatment. P.D. It's worth noting how the Radiant associated with creationspren was the one to "create" new personas

I honestly think it's either going to be Kaladin or Szeth. From a narrative point of view Kaladin is the obvious one right now, but Szeth is supposed to be a MC and he's done almost nothing, so I assume he's going to have a huge role in book 5.

Do we know when will the chapters start getting released?

I wonder if Navani could be from the Kholinar Kholins instead of the lesser branch Gavilar and Dalinar were from.

People will always complain about anything and everything. I'd say OB was very well received in general. My general fear about the book is that it feels like it could get the middle book syndrome where it's all setup, although knowing Brandon I'm sure we'll get a big event at the end of the book.

It doesn't have to be surgebinding, just accessing analogous forces.

It's more a matter of PoV, we read about Dalinar when he was at his best so people already liked him and forgiving came easy for readers. In the case of Moash we meet him on a bad spot and see his descent without the information that he will get better.

The way I see it both our thoughts aren't mutually exclusive, they could have used the rythms dto access the underlying forces like the surges.

The shard of preservation is involved there, it wouldn't be too surprising that Leras preserved the system.

Imagine someone bonding a herald o,o

Distant yet demanding doesn't sound much like Tien. Brandon said there would be no moving back in time so it should all be lineal.

They share Honor's power and thus they are able to influence the cluster of investiture they are most connected with. Thus each radiant is a potential shareholder for the Honor limited society and their actions, like municipal or corporate bond-manipulation and breaking can have big consecuences for the big company. For example, if a big part of the shareholders suddenly broke their bonds the big company might be in very real danger, especially if it's already got competition. Such an event might lead a big company like Honor to die over a period of time. Source: I just made it up

If the blacthorn says to get the zircon fabrials working to produce oil we ask "how many"?

I kind of assume Kelsier took over someone else's body too. The heralds worked like this at first but then Brandon changed it.

I like to believe that a 5th order radiant with no restrictions to their power would be a mini shareholder.

The three people you mentioned all get the same treatment from what I've seen people post, specially Shallan who gets loads of hate from her attitude (boots scene), but even the others get called out for being casually racist/classist. I'm pretty sure literally no one here called Kaladin unreasonable or hysterical and I explicitly said his anger was perfectly understandable, but that said understanding didn't make his anger a morally correct thing, which he himself ends up understanding.

I am sorry but I have no idea how you came to that conclusion from out what I or others here said :/ Racism is also explicitly not what you claim it is...

I disagree very strongly here. Kaladin had very bad and unjust things happen to him and those make his attitude later very understandable, but they don't make that attitude right. Storms, a key point in his character development is letting go of his anger like we see in the Thaylen fields when he chooses to protect Dalinar over killing Amaram. No suspicion or mistrust towards what I assume is a huge part of the population is ever earned.

Random thoughts: Dalinar won't survive stormlight since he was originally on Yolen and he wasn't a shardholder. Ruin is going to be a villain again. The heralds were voidbinders. Roshar is getting stormed up in book 9 and book 10 is finding a solution for the survivors. Odium kills shardbearers by tapping into their hatred. Cultivation is as much a stormlight villain as Odium if not more. Shallan is going to betray everyone.

Auto correct is my oldest enemy, my Ideal of Crusadeis getting rid of it

I don't know the proper term for it, but bridge!Kaladin is definitely discriminstory against people he considers "high class" or "privileged", something borne out of his trauma. This attitude disappears gradually and fast, but it was there and I'd say it's one of his key development points with Syl. Where I do think Kaladin, and a lot of others, were truly racist was with the parshmen. Even in book 2, when Shen asks him about his freedom he thinks he has enough problems to have to worry about what people will say if a parshmen gets too much freedom. I can't quote from the book but I believe it was something like that. Of course he does give Rlain a spear and treats him as an equal and I think that he's learnt that his "acceptance" of parsh slavery wasn't ok. I think he pitied them back in book 1 too and compared his situation with theirs too, I think that when he was feeling sorry for himself he thought that they had it much worse or something along those lines. His attitude definitely wasn't the worst and he was on the right direction, but there was still the underlying thought that the parshmen weren't at the same level as humans. Like with the other example he grows out of this pretty fast in my opinion.

That could be it too, Roshar as a whole seems very cultivated, to the point where I think it's not unreasonable to assume Cultivation went there and Honor followed. Although the Singer culture, if the oarshendi are anything to go by, seems very honorable

I disagree that voidbinding is a corruption, if Odium was in contact with Ashynians I'd say it predates surgebinding. From my pov I see voidbinding as most likely being one of two things: 1) The original powers the human immigrants had, this is what I think most likely. To me it's very important that there were going to be 9 heralds, since it implies a 9 centric culture. 2) Something the humans serving Odium/the fused got after the invasion, basically odiums version of the herald powers. I don't know how relevant this is, but here is a segment of the back text from WoK. I think shardwielding could potentially be Dawn shard wielding instead of dead spren wielding. "The world can change. Surgebinding and Shardwielding can return; the magics of ancient days can become ours again. These four people are key." I wanna say something about hemalurgy too, but I don't know how to use spoilers :c