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  1. Youtube: [Recommends a video chronicling all the lightsaber duels in Star Wars]

    Me: I guess it's time for a TIER LIST

    Spoiler

    (I didn't actually do that I'd need a lot of screenshots)

    First of all:

    Garbage:

    • Luke vs. Leia (Rise of Skywalker): Apparently this one counts? I gave it a 1/10, and frankly I think it deserves less. It's approximately three seconds long and absolutely nothing happens.
    • Obi-Wan Kenobi vs Asajj Ventress (Star The Clone Wars Wars): 2/10. It's awkward and jumpy and Kenobi is kind of annoying throughout the whole thing.
    • High Inquisitor vs Kenan Jarrus, Rematch 2 (Rebels): 2/10. There were an awful lot of these semi-fights, and this one was the worst.
    • Kylo Ren vs Rey (Rise of Skywalker): 2/10. Their first fight in this god-awful movie. I really needed Rey to stop grunting all the time - this will become something of a theme
    • Master Yoda vs The Senate (Revenge of the Sith): 3/10. On the notepad I gave this 0 for the Sin of Interrupting Duel of the Fates, but honestly it deserves better than all the above pieces of garbage.
    • Anakin vs Dooku, feat. Sand (Star The Clone Wars Wars): 3/10. Out of the two god-awful lightsaber duels this god-awful movie had, this one was almost acceptable. Gets points for tactical usage of sand.
    • Anakin & Kenobi vs Ventress (The Clone Wars): 3/10. She grunts too much.
    • Ben vs Rey (The Rise of Skywalker): 3/10. This fight is garbage. Too much grunting.

    Watchable:

    • General Kenobi vs General Grievous (Revenge of the Sith): 3/10 - one point for about every second of actual lightsaber vs lightsaber combat there is in this "fight"
    • Darth Maul vs Qui-Gon Jinn (The Phantom Menace): 4/10. Remember when they fought for about three seconds on Tatooine? It was okay.
    • Darth Maul vs Pre Visla (The Clone Wars): 4/10. It's a decent action scene, but hardly any of it is actual Lightsaber Duel
    • Anakin vs Barriss Offee (The Clone Wars): 4/10. The fight itself is a little uneventful, but does come with a great meme
    Spoiler

     

    Fancy_stal "The only thing the Jedi Council believes in is violence!  'GNITES A SECOND LIGHTSABER TO PROVE HOW WRONG SHE IS - iFunny Brazil

    and yes - this is the best-quality image I could find. 

    • The Senate vs Master Windu (Revenge of the Sith): 4/10. First few seconds of Palpatine just killing off random schmucks is a little weird, but his duel with just Windu is pretty solid. Obv I don't like the grunting but it's kind of part of the effect with Sheev.
    • Ben vs Vader (Kenobi): 4/10. Yeah it's okay.
    • Grand Inquisitor vs Kenan Jarrus, Rematch 1 (Rebels): 4/10. Tries to be like Dooku vs Anyone, but ultimately comes up short.
    • Ezra & Kenan vs. Inquisitor Bros (Rebels): 4/10. The action is okay, but it suffers from Conversationitis
    • Ezra, Kenan, & Ahsoka vs Inquisitor Bros (Rebels): 4/10. Again, the action is okay... but this time there are just way too many lightsaber blades to make sense of any of it.
      • And then Maul shows up: 3/10. The action actually becomes worse now.
    • Blind Kenan vs Maul (Rebels): 4/10. It's okay, but also about three seconds long.
    • Sabine vs. Mandalore guy (Rebels): 4/10. It was kinda boring.
    • Rey vs Kylo Ren (The Force Awakens): 4/10. I would rank it way lower if the CGI wasn't as good.

    Decent:

    • Darth Sideous vs. Maul & Savage (The Clone Wars): 5/10. Would've been better if there'd been more Lightsaber and less Force Pushing
      • Maul vs. Darth Sideous: 11/10. After Savage is killed, this fight becomes wildly incredible.
    • Count Dooku vs. Anakin & Kenobi (Revenge of the Sith): 5/10. It's actually kinda lucky it got this high - the whole thing is carried by the last few seconds of Anakin vs Dooku. Otherwise it's just some weird Force shenanigans.
    • Darth Vader vs. Third Sister (Kenobi): 5/10. Respect any fight that lets Vader give absolutely no craps about his opponent.
    • Inquisitor vs Kenan Jarrus, Rematch 3 (Rebels): 5/10. And another one gone... this one's okay. Ezra shows up later on and the fight tries to be Maul vs Kenobi & Qui-Gon, which... no.
    • Finn vs. Kylo Ren (the Force Awakens): 5/10. Remember earlier when I said Rey's first duel with Kylo was bad? In fact, it was so bad that Finn's loss was actually better than her win.
    • Kenobi vs Vader (A New Hope): 5/10. It's the first ever lightsaber duel and it honestly goes pretty hard.

    Pretty Good:

    • Kenobi vs Dooku (Attack of the Clones): 6/10. 'S okay.
    • Padawanakin vs Dooku (Attack of the Clones): 6/10. 'S okay
    • Kit Fisto vs General Grievous (The Clone Wars): 6/10. Was better than I expected and remembered.
    • Ventress & Savage vs. Count Dooku (The Clone Wars): 6/10 here we have the first Prime Example of Clone Wars Dooku kicking name and taking bubblegum.
    • Ventress vs Ahsoka (The Clone Wars): 6/10. This is the one a little way's in when Ahsoka's been framed or whatever... maybe I should've dropped it lower. There wasn't much Lightsaber going on the whole time.
    • Inquisitor vs Kenan Jarrus (Rebels): 6/10. Yeah, that's right - there were four of these. And the first one was the best.
    • Ahsoka vs Maul (Rebels): 6/10. For all five seconds we have, it is glorious.

    Really Good:

    • Darth Maul vs. Qui-Gon Jinn & Obi-Wan Kenobi (The Phantom Menace): 7/10. A legendary duel, if a tad slow in the middle.
      • Maul vs. Kenobi: 11/10. Those last thirty seconds are incredible.
    • Dooku vs. The Ghost Witch Ladies (The Clone Wars): 7/10. Did I mention how epic Clone Wars Dooku was? He's the only one who could take completely unnatural-looking movements and a pair of pajamas and make it look metal as hell.
    • Kenobi vs. Darth Vader (Kenobi): 7/10. I liked it. Dropped off near the end.
    • Vader vs. Ahsoka (Rebels): 7/10. Darth Vader's movements seem a little weird, but otherwise it's a great fight.
    • Obi-Wan vs. Padawanakin (Kenobi): 8/10. Say what you will about this show, but it had some pretty solid lightsaber duels.
    • Yoda vs. Count Dooku (Attack of the Clones): 8/10. Yeah, yeah... the screaming is weird. But otherwise it's definitely the best fight in the movie.
    • Count Dooku vs. Yodette (Tales of the Jedi): 9/10. Started weird; got better.

    Really Good:

    • Count Dooku vs. Anakin & Obi-Wan, Drugs Edition (The Clone Wars): 9/10. Peak Dooku! Peak Dooku. I will take no criticisms at this time.
    • Luke Skywalker vs. Darth Vader (The Empire Strikes Back): 9/10. Did you know that this movie is actually really good???

    The Best Ones:

    • Luke Skywalker vs. Anakin Skywalker (Return of the Jedi): 10/10. Did you know that this movie is actually really damn good???
    • Maul vs. Ben Kenobi (Rebels): 11/10. They finished Maul's story with a duel against Kenobi... it lasts three seconds.

    Tied for First Place:

    • Anakin Skywalker vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi (Revenge of the Sith): 12/10
    • Ahsoka Tano vs. Maul (The Clone Wars): 12/10

     

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    2. Slowswift

      Slowswift

      I'm assuming this is lightsaber vs. lightsaber, because I'm not seeing Kylo Ren & Rey vs the Praetorian Guard, which was actually amazing.

    3. Frustration

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      Kylo Ren vs Rey (Rise of Skywalker): 2/10. Their first fight in this god-awful movie. I really needed Rey to stop grunting all the time - this will become something of a theme

      @dannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnex if you slow this fight down you can clearly see the lightsabers go through each other on this fight.

      Multiple times.

      Like they weren't even trying.

      I'd honestly have given this one a negative score personally.

    4. Channelknight Fadran

      Channelknight Fadran

      the important thing here is "Trying to be cool" versus "being cool."

      Anakin vs. Obi-Wan? Cool. The movement is fluid, the strikes have weight, the choreography has tension.

      Pretty much all of the ST fights? Trying to be cool; or occasionally not even. They have wildly exaggerated slashes and jabs, punctuated with pointless grunting to make it seem like they're going all out - but it looks more like a group of kids fighting with sticks than Force-wielders fighting with lightsabers.

      There were incredibly unnatural attacks and moves in the older movies, but they flowed together well and just looked cool; you could accept "yeah, this isn't a sword fight, it's a lightsaber fight."

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