Frustration

The Wisdom shard and the survival shard are two different shards. survival is barely related to that shard's intent. And there have been 5 shards revealed since we learned about those two.

I would still see that as supporting change, as Preservation can't exist without change. However let's assume you are correct and Preservation is not Change. What Dawnshard would it be in, or at least what would the other three shards be? You both make good points, I'd say that Autonomy is the natural state of choice, being free of all restrictions, but I think I'll make it so they can both apply. Like this

Would you explain your thoughts on that?

If evidence to the contrary is found I would move it.

I am willing to change it. However before I do I will need evidence in support of the change.

Thank you. The suggestion makes a lot of sense, however a line in Elantris speaks of Devotion in relationship to unity so I feel that Devotion has to go there. However I will concede that it could be pointing to Devotion not being of unity, but I'll leave it for now. If you find anything else please let me know.

Cultivation is by nature creating new things. When humans domesticated plants and animals they created new species. Brandon would call the creation of spren as them being "Cultivated"

Well, sort of. Hoid said splintered herself, not "splintered the shard" so she was still the vessel when that happened. Given this WoB, while technically possible to live through a Shard's splintering the Vessel doesn't have a good time after.

Opposites attract. Death and Life are opposites. Action and inaction are opposites Law and Crime are opposites But they cannot exist without the other. Without life nothing can die, inaction is defined as not preforming an action, Crime cannot be commited if there isn't a law. Cultivation grows things, Ruin kills them which allows Cultivation to grow them again. A ballance. How else can you describe Cultivation than making more of what is? Add Preservation to moderate them, and Whimsy to cause them to act on everything. And what can you call that other than Change?

And?

Why would Odium like Honor restricting it? The two shards would work well together if not for their vessels, and yet Odium hates being bound or restricted, which is what Honor is all about. And yet they would make a natural pair

And Cultivation wants to build it back up. Yin and Yang.

Not really, it just requires a different prescpective. Living things die, which gives birth to new life. Death serves life which in turn serves death. Fungi break down dead matter, which enables plants to build them back up. Stars die and launch peices of themselves out into the universe, which allows new stars and planets to form.

Ruin isn't evil but it is a negative, and you can Invent things for evil. Cultivation makes more of what is, a net positive.

It's not in the Rosharan system, or any of the systems we already know.

Which Cultivation already covers. And which other shard are you cutting out to make room for Virtuosity?

Virtuosity makes things, Dominion and Ambition try to make things bigger. There are a lot of shards that fit that description. Additionally Virtuosity and Invention are too similar to not be in the same Dawnshard.

I don't think that works anyway as Ruin is still a net negative force. Maybe this will make more sense as why I think Preservation should be change. Whimsy - All Change Cultivation - Positive Change Ruin - Negative Change Preservation - No Change

You brought it up.

Ruin couldn't make a planet on his own. He needed Preservation for that. Going to have to disagree on that.

Simple, you used Change in you description of Preservation. The two concepts are intresically tied together. You can't have change if there isn't something for it to change from. Because Odium and the fused call both Honor and Cultivation as gods of nature. Additionally Cultivation and Honor make Science which is about as natural as you get.

How does Invention: the creation of machines/devices, fit Change better than Virtuosity: the creation of art? What is the big difference between the two that makes one change and the other not?

How does Invention fit more than Virtuosity?

I have uptadted my post after the reveal of Virtuosity.

Let's go! Brandon you absolute legend! 10 Million over the previous record.