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I believe the purpose of him swearing the fourth Ideal is getting him on the path for determining right and wrong for himself. Crusade, looking for a great wrong in the world and righting it. The Fifth Oath, becoming Law, will clearly supersede his other oaths.
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I believe it hasn't been transcribed yet
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As I understand it, Warbreaker takes place somewhere between 30 and 300 years before WoK. This is after the Recreance and well after Aharietiam, so there couldn't have been an instance where Nale appears bearing Nightblood until after the Heralds called it quits and disappered. I don't think there would be Vorin depictions of Nale holding Nightblood.
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Kon-Tiki replied to AnAirSickLowLander's topic in Stormlight Archive
Not necessarily. I actually think she was more connected to the Sons of Honor, based on some comments she made and the fact that the Sons of Honor actively sought to re-create a Desolation. Jasnah showed us not only that she was willing to wach Aesudan that night, but also that she was active in assassination and counter-assassination in dealing with threats to the throne, one of which was certainly the Ghostbloods. Mraize, insofar as he can even be trusted, says that Jasnah had been killing off Ghostbloods, so they had her assassinated back -
When he's training Shallan, he wonders what kind of fighting style to teach her. He considers dueling, but not any more than any other style of fighting. His love of fighting with his Shardblade is not the same to me as his love of dueling specifically. I don't think the Adolin in Kholinar with the strike team would have said something like this. I don't think he's really this person anymore. He doesn't see honor in this way anymore. And frankly, I think that after the duel with Jakamov et al that he hasn't really been as keen on the institution of dueling on the whole. All of these are signs of development to me
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I don't know that I agree. Adolin used to be something of a playboy. Now, he's turned off even by the idea of Shallan illusioning herself as other women Adolin used to prefer a lot of shallow relationships, but is developing closer friendships with Kaladin, Skar, and Drehy. Adolin used to be a socialite and something of a dandy. Now, extreme fashion "doesn't fit" anymore and he's mostly rejected the others of his class. Adolin learned to accept and understand what his father meant by living the Codes, and backed him up when Sadeas betrayed them at the Tower Adolin once would have allowed himself to be bullied into the kingship. But with encouragement from Vivenna and Shallan, he's now looking for his own place in the world instead of the one Dalinar is projecting onto him. I think the only time in all of OB Adolin even thinks about dueling is to note that Shardblades aren't particularly good dueling weapons, but that instead they seem pretty specifically designed to kill thunderclasts. Dueling used to be something of an obsession of his. Most of all, I think Adolin used to be highly typical of Alethi society at the beginning of WoR. He certainly is not that anymore. Adolin is going to have to learn to find a place for himself moving forward.
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[OB] Book 4 Storyline Predictions and Discussions
Kon-Tiki replied to TequilaJack's topic in Stormlight Archive
Kaladin: Kaladin will spend either the intervening year between books 3 and 4 (if this happens, I hope Brandon changes his mind on this after his re-read) or the first chunk of book 4 taking the Windrunners and evacuating Alethkar. He expressed desire to evacuate Hearthstone and specifically to bring his family to Urithiru before going to attempt to liberate Kholinar, and I think he will be allowed to do so now. But, Kaladin being Kaladin, he won't be able to allow himself to just take the people of Hearthstone, he'll have to save everyone. This, obviously, will be harder than he expects. Meanwhile, Jasnah and probably Dalinar will arrange his marriage to some budding KR or foreign royalty while he's gone for political reasons. This will enrage Kaladin and will be grounds for his conflict for the rest of the book. His fourth oath, strangely, will have to do with him pledging to actually lead people in more ways than just Bridge Four on the battlefield. I've seen a lot of people suggest that he takes some sort of personal responsibility for Gavinor, but I don't see that happening. If he's going to pick a child to protect, it will be his new baby brother. Tien meant more to Kaladin than Gavilar/Gavinor ever will, and even now he sees that as his greatest failure. Shallan: Shallan will start taking her wardship seriously just as Jasnah actually becomes too busy to teach her. Between Jasnah's queenship and being a KR I doubt she'll have time to teach Shallan much of scholarship in the traditional sense. Shallan, much as in OB, will have to continue to find ways to be helpful for herself. I honestly don't know what this will look like. Obviously there's the whole thing with the Ghostbloods and Sja-Anat, but I have no idea what looking for Sja-Anat even really entails other than trying to track down instances of corrupted spren. Adolin: Adolin's bond with Maya will continue to strengthen. I think he'll be swearing Edgedancer oaths by the end of book 4. Adolin will also struggle to be highprince, as it will probably honestly bore him and he'll need some sort of shock to actually engage with his duties beyond just sort of reacting and doing what Jasnah/Dalinar need him to do. Not out of laziness necessarily, but out of a dislike of the job. Renarin: I think we'll finally see more of what's going on in Renarin's head now that the big reveal is out of the way. I still think there are unplumbed depths there, but broadly once Brandon allows someone to be a POV character there isn't much left to spoil or they're about to die or something like that -- interludes aside -- so here's hoping to much more out of Renarin than there has been previously. Venli: Venli is on Team Dalinar by the end of the book. I don't see how she can be telling the Parshmen the truth about the Listeners without getting sniffed out by Odium/the Fused, who already question her loyalty. I doubt that she straight up dies, and she's seen Dalinar standing up to Odium and not just getting totally squashed. Obviously she won't be immediately welcomed and trusted by Team Dalinar, so her and Timbre learning to trust them and them learning to trust her will be a big deal. And, as soon as Bridge Four sees a KR Listener, they'll rally around Rlain, who will become a Windrunner. I do not see him becoming a Bondsmith as I've seen suggested elsewhere. I think the presumption of impossibility is the only thing really keeping Rlain's feet on the ground (as it was for Lyn). Szeth: The biggest conflict I see on Szeth's horizon is that Dalinar is going to want to make contact and start forging alliances with the Shin leadership. Szeth will have obvious insights into Shin leadership, but it is unclear how useful those insights will be, given Szeth's hatred for the Shin leadership. He will encourage scouring them off the face of Roshar, which Dalinar will obviously want to resist. Meanwhile, he will have to overcome the fact that he's the Assassin in White and that all sorts of world leaders and even the Alethi will treat him badly and it will almost certainly cause problems for Dalinar internationally. I don't think even Jasnah is super keen on the idea of having Szeth apparently serve as Dalinar's full-time bodyguard now that the bridgemen have pretty much all become Windrunner squires at this point, and those who have not soon will. Szeth is still a big bag of problems that didn't get addressed in OB, both due to a lack of time in the book and a lack of time in-story (I hope that makes sense). Szeth also has a black sphere hidden somewhere in Jah Keved Dalinar might want to see, so we might actually get some answers Lift: Who knows what Lift is ever going to do? I imagine that Dalinar will try and leverage Lift's friendship with Gawx to rope in the skittish Azish, who seem to have put great stock into the reports of the Sadeas army turning on Theylanah and have no real basis of understanding of the Thrill or even really the Unmade in general. I'm sure Lift will continue to buck expectations, but also that as the Urithiru contingent becomes aware that she uses calories for Investiture will want to study her. Lift is going to spend a lot of time learning how to skate like the Fused. I don't think we've ever seen her draw in Stormlight traditionally, so maybe she'll learn how to do that or she'll learn that she can't, depending on how whatever the Nightwatcher did to her works. On the Cosmere scale, I think Lift is my candidate for Most Likely to Worldhop, as of all the KRs she's the only one not bound to Rosharan Stormlight. Dalinar: I think Dalinar will have two major issues. The first is the recurring issue of international politics and building his kill-Odium coalition. This will involve both learning who he can trust. Primary among these will be the Venli and whatever Parshmen she brings with her and then also Szeth. The second issue is running the city of Urithiru, especially if as I believe Kaladin will be bringing in more and more refugees from across Alethkar. I feel pretty confident that this will involve reawakening The Sibiling and finding a second Bondsmith. Gavilar: I don't know how much longer we can go without learning more about Gavilar's motives. Right now, they mostly seem to be "start a Desolation in order to bring back the Heralds so they can strengthen the Vorin Church". If this is really all there is to it, then he seems a lot less noble to me and a lot more foolish than many of our main characters seem to think. I think both Jasnah and Dalinar would feel immensely betrayed by this if they were aware of it. Jasnah: I think most of our Jasnah POVs will have to do with her having captured(?) Taln and Ash. As per usual she knows way more about them than we do, so hopefully this is how we can learn more about what's going on with them and with the Heralds generally, all of whom seem to be "getting worse". If they're all mad (understandable) but also uniformly getting worse, there's a reason for that and I think Detective Jasnah is the one to crack that mystery. Rock: I think same as Kaladin after agreeing to assassinate Elhokar, in order for Rock to keep moving forward as a KR he's going to have to swear a higher Ideal. Unlike Kaladin, I can actually see Rock walking away from being a KR entirely because his other more personal oaths mean more to him than being a KR. I don't know that that will happen, but I think it could. Interactions I'm hoping for/looking forward to: Lirin and Dalinar. These two are both sort of father figures to Kaladin and if Lirin makes it to Urithiru I can't imagine that Dalinar will just ignore Kaladin's parents. I don't think Lirin will think much of Dalinar. Venli and Rlain. Venli has a lot to answer for and I think Rlain either knows it or will piece it together Renarin and Glys. We know next to nothing about Glys. LET ME LOVE HIM Shallan and Ash. Seeing Shallan meet her namesake, especially in Ash's broken state, would be amazing. It even makes sense if Jasnah brings Shallan to interrogate Ash and Taln. Shallan will want guidance but will get crazy instead. Adolin and Lift. Especially as Adolin moves more and more towards Edgedancing (as I think is inevitable given what we learned in OB) he and Lift will be increasingly in contact with one another. I can't imagine two people on Roshar less alike Syl and the other Honorspren. Syl is such a savage with them and I love it and I want to see more Lift and Lopen. Who can out-weird the other? That might actually be too much to handle Adolin and his Bridge Four Bros. Adolin needs bros and the others of his class either betrayed him or left him hanging in WoR, and by this point I think he sees Bridge Four as his peers more than other Alethi lighteyes, especially Skar, Drehy, and Kaladin. We've seen some of it already, but I'm always in for more Whew this ended up going a lot longer than I thought it would. -
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Kon-Tiki replied to AnAirSickLowLander's topic in Stormlight Archive
We don't know the timeline on that specifically yet, but Jasnah was obviously assassinating people to defend the budding Kholin dynasty before Gavilar died. The Ghostbloods wanted him dead, Jasnah is willing to kill to keep him alive. Sensible basis for conflict between the two -
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Kon-Tiki replied to AnAirSickLowLander's topic in Stormlight Archive
A lot of people wanted Amaram dead, for all the good reputation he's supposed to have had. Kaladin and Jasnah are two. Presumably the Ghostbloods as a whole wanted him dead, as Gavilar expected it was the Ghostbloods who had had him assassinated and he and Amaram were both Sons of Honor. Tangentially, I think that the origin of the bad blood between Jasnah and the Ghostbloods is as simple as the Ghostbloods wanting Gavilar dead and Jasnah preferring her father alive. Mraize said Jasnah had been hunting Ghostbloods, and the most obvious motive (frankly, the only one that comes to mind) is that Jasnah started killing them so they wouldn't kill Gavilar -
I figure if Sja-Anat's ability to corrupt higher spren was a longer standing ability, she'd have been made to corrupt more Oathgates than just the one in Kholinar
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My crazy pet theory has always been that Rayse will be dead and the Odium shard shattered by the end of book 5, but that the back half will be about how people don't really need the excuse of Odium to be terrible to each other
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If Odium was the god of Ashyn, it probably wasn't for very long. He was a busy bee before showing up on Roshar
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I'm on vacation so I can't give you a page reference, but one of the in-universe Words of Radiance passages describes attempts to expand the order of Bondsmiths beyond three as "seditious". I'm pretty sure this is exactly what the author of in-universe WoR was referring to
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I always enjoy Adolin's POVs. He may not be the most educated of the main POV characters but he's usually fairly insightful. I'd love to see a Syl POV. Not necessarily as a regular thing, but she has unique insight on Kaladin and I'd love to see how she sees everyone else
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All of the book titles are in-world books. I'm hoping for Mythica myself
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I mean the understanding granted by holding a Shard, like TLR did
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A bunch of Windrunners could have gone full Lord Ruler and Lashed the Ashyn towards the sun for some reason, as an example. Brandon has somewhere mentioned the Lightweavers discovering lasers. We don't even really know that much about Division (except that its molecular and not atomic), but I'm sure there are some crazy things you can do with that too. The surges are forces of nature and TLR showed us how wrong things can go when you mess with them and you don't know what you're doing. The people of Ashyn didn't even have a Shard or spren to guide them
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I'm still on the Rall Elorim hype train, but I doubt we'll see much of it before the Lift book
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Bridge 4 isn't even on guard duty anymore. They're supposed to be doing Windrunner things
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Who would you cast for a Stormlight TV/Movie?
Kon-Tiki replied to TequilaJack's topic in Stormlight Archive
Deborah Ann Woll is also my pick for Shallan, though unfortunately I'm not sure she could be made to look 17 convincingly -
Who would you cast for a Stormlight TV/Movie?
Kon-Tiki replied to TequilaJack's topic in Stormlight Archive
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I believe the books are supposed to swap genders for the flashback. So Kaladin (male), Shallan (female), Dalinar (male), Eshonai (female(n)), Szeth (male).
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"Voidbringers" at this point I think is independent of race. Unite the people of Roshar against those who would support the destruction brought by Odium. Moash, for example, I think can clearly be labeled as a "voidbringer". Rlain is not a voidbringer, easy call. Dalinar's job is to recruit anyone and everyone willing and able to fight the void offered by Odium
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It certainly helps that he'd just received a direct injection of Spiritual Realm. Probably a lot of things made sense to him in that moment for reasons he probably didn't think too much about.
