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Well, half-way. It may certainly make sure that they did not believe it, but they still must have known the theory. And even so, if your own theology says that you come from the Tranquiline Halls, claiming that you are not natve to a planet is not all that heretic.

With Singers still in full command of their mental faculties and memories?

Let me make up an extremely short story: "You stand accused of murdering your wife" "I did not kill her" A Willshaper recreates a cognitive memory. "Your floor says otherwise. String him up. Next case" OK, I hope Rosharan judicial procedures were a bit more evolved, but after what the Honorspren did, I have my doubts. Now seriously, after wat we have seen Stoneshaping, we must wonder how they could even have difficulties reconstructing the past. Is the development of history as a scholarly discipline of post Recreance thing. In fact, during a trial can your spren be used against you? I mean if your are showing creation spren while telling the court what you did on that fatefull night, the judges may not be quite so inclined to believe you.

Yes, but why was this ever necessary? Why did they not mention it in their "Radianting 101" in Urithiru? How could any educated Rosharan prior to the Recreance not know?

These options are not mutually exclusive. In fact, there are even more options: Elantris, Threnody, ...

much easier to get much closer to his eventual targets Getting sentient spren is a serious hassle. You need to send whole troops of soldiers into Shadesmar to capture them. Anything else would be easier.

But it is not just feruchemically viable. It works in all three Metallic Arts. Do you really want three separate explanations in them and an additional explanation for its effects outside the Metallic Arts? And even if it just vanished, how does the Feruchemist get his Identity back? And of course it would mean that a Tueself Feruchemist could not sense that a metalmind holds an alien charge. How would they not know on Scadrial?

Yes. Then he would kill people and immediately reincarnate them. Why test with spren to incarnate a human cognitive shadow, if you can use human cognitive shadows?

No. He would experiment with temporary cognitive shadows or animal spren.

Reading Khrissalla's article on the Selish system, I noticed an inconsistency. She does describe the innermost planet as inside the habitable zone, but as uncomfortably warm, even to somebody used to dayside Taldaine. That very much reads like she has been there in person. It is easy to describe why you would no that a planet carries life. You can see the souls in the subastral. But you do not get climate. The Cognitive Realm has no climate in our sense. She must have been there in person. And that raises a very important question. How? That very much looks like there is a perpendicularity on that planet. How did it get there?

That is a core lesson. Survive, what it take.

They won't. It would be extraordinarily unlikely for all cultures in the Cosmere to survive up to its space age. Vasher was a fool, frankly. For the small wearable ones, no, we don't know for sure. The starter cubes and the big ones that drive the air ships, yes, they are confirmed to use Harmonium. Maybe I should have used clear definitions. Settle, yes, rule, no. That is the other side of the coin. The natives are in deep trouble. They cannot learn how to make magitech weapons, or rather, they can, but it does them no good. If you rule First of the Sun, you will control the supply of Aviars. If you rule Scadrial, you'll control the supply of Harmonium and maybe Atium. There is nothing conquered worlds can do about that. In fact, if you rule multiple worlds, you will have the synergies of their aracane arts working in your favor. It seems like the Cosmere is built for empire. But they do. Breaths come from Nalthis. You cannot make new Blades without resources from Nalthis. Actually, I do not fear that. It looks like an interesting consequence to me. Well, no. Imperial powers usually do not react with approval to declarations of independence. You need to fight their troops. And here I see a shift of the power balance.

I was wondering about the upcoming space age of the Cosmere. And I wondered how this would work in terms of settlements. Let's look at the current (SA cycle 1 / W & W era) situation. Magitech (fabrials, medaillons, awakend objects) are being developed These technelogies will become a fundamental building block of the cultures they are developed in (North Scadrial so far is the exception) They depend on unique resources. Allomancy and Feruchemy can operate everywhere. Medaillons cannot be built everywhere. You need Harmonium. Hence it looks to me like Cosmere imperialism cannot have settler colonies (except to a limited extent from Scadrial). Anybody from Sel is powerless off world. The requirement for getting a Breath is residence on Nalthis. If you are a Singer your children will have to return to Roshar to get a form and you cannot just change out of mateform. And in every case the mother world will perpetually control a vital resource. No Scadrian colony can revolt and declare independence without cutting itself off the Harmonium supply. How will this look politically?

Yes. That Voidbinders are known for millenia to predict the future merely tells us that seeing the future cannot be the resonance of a new combination. By that information alone it is still possible that Renarin would have four powers and possibly their resonances. Or he could show two powers and a resonance. To distinguish these possibilities, we need to look at further information. But we can rule out that his futuresight is his resonance. Sure, why not. Where is the contradiction? Well, no. We are seeing two ways to use the same underlying power. And Navani is no fool. She would know that. I am afraid it cannot be that simple. Regals and Fused always have red eyes, whether they are using their powers or not. The mere ability is causing it. We do not know what Voidbinding is of. Then it would need to make you something not different from an enlightened spren.

The Fused are Surgebinders. We got it from Brandon. Hence also the red eyes. They are using an alien system: Surgebinding. But Renarin is not corrupted. No red eyes. The simplest explanation is that he is using a Shard's genuine magic system, in this case Odium's, hence he is voidbindung in seeing the future. We do have the chart We know sentient Voidspren exist We do know that Voidspren can become fabrials but are extremely reluctant to do so. What else but becoming a Voidbinder should be the result of bonding a Voidspren?

Voidbringers are known to see the future. This must predate enlightening Radiant spren. His Progression operates totally normally. Navani would know if it were otherwise. Hence this possibility would require the Void of Illmination to do two unrelated things and it would require the Void and Surge of Progression to be indistinguishable.

Well, not nevessary. Melishi could still have abandoned his oaths, though without killing the Sibling as the bond had already been broken. The timing suggests that it was a reaction to the consequences of the capture of B-A-M Again that the choice of going to sleep was voluntary does not mean that the choice of waking up early was voluntary. We do not know that a mere breakage of the bond caused it, as opposed a breakage by abandoning oaths. In fact we do know that the death of a Radiant does not make a deadeye. The capture required a Bondsmith's power. Hence Melishi must still have been bound. What exactly is the dispute? If you take the wording literally they were in disagreement about how the bond was broken or even how The Sibling had learned how to break bonds, not the reason. He included it in his recordings.

Because he causes impressions when healing. As far as we can tell, Lightweavers create physical images, that is you cannot touch them, but they would show on film. What Renarin makes seems to arise in the mind of the observer, like his "void" is making pictures that are visible, but not fully real.

The problem is that Renarin cannot make illusions. So it looks very much like his futuresight has replaced his Lightweaving. As far as he has a resonance, the best candidate is those wierd balls of light he can create. The interesting question would be whether all enlightened spren replace the same surge, but we do not have seen a statistically significant number to draw a conclusion.

The Pursuer's title has passed to a human. Now I assume some jumped to conclusions and put it on Moash. However I have to point out that I see no evidence for that. Who else could it be? How about Szeth? He certainly pursued a lot of people and Taravangian owes him something.

A minor change may cause monumental developments, while a huge change may no have no further impact. I'd say you just cannot take the immediate effect and expect the long term consequences to be proportional. Well, it may also depend on the consent of the people to be changed. It is clearly possible to alter memories by arcane means. (Scadrial) On a fundamental level I must say that this discussion ignores that Rathalas was not an outright crime. A horrible thing, yes, a crime, very debatable. Had Dalinar stood in front of an impartial Rosharan court, he might very well have been acquitted. The Blackthorn is doubtlessly a violent killer, but not necessarily a criminal. The idea that war is bad is not shared among the Rosharans, the Alethi least of all.

Whart justifies the assumption that either of them has a spine? So has a barnacle. The question is whether they are appendages or true tentacles. How else do they store Stormlight? To be frank we don't know any native lifeform that is sure not to have a gemheart.

We can try to order the Rosharan native fauna into phyla, like the Earth has vertebrates, molluscs, arthropods and many smaller phyla. This has the added complication that Roshar has alien lifeforms as well. Going through the books, I am pretty confident of four major native phyla The Fish - Purelake fish, Skyeels. We know very little of their anatomy other than that they basically look like terrestial fish in the narrow sense The Tentaculous - we have some animals that snatch pray with tentacles Lurgoids - I am a bit unsure about them, but they have an anatomy that just does not fit elsewhere. No shell, strange appendages, silk, an endoskeleton. Shells - that fits the great majority: axehounds, greatshells, chulls, ... . The characteristics are segmented appendages, antennae, violet blood, carapaces, but in contrast to terrestial arthropods no compound eyes There is a group that may not be native: Insects. Flying insects seen around rotting fruit are mentioned. Are those imported fruit flies or native? And there is the great unlnown: The Singers. At first glance they might be greatly modified shells, who have lost most limbs and their antennae. There is a problem though. Their blood has the wrong color. Are they related to Lurgs instead? Have we ever seen a Lurg bleed? That requires the assumption that somewhere in the ancestry of the Lurgs as a species specifically the carapace was lost. What do you think? Anything that does not fit besides invasive mammals and chickens?

Odium can make Cognitive Shadows into Surgebinders. Nor are Dalinar's capabilities exceptionally large. Ishar rivals him.

Death breaks the Nahel bond. See the shock that saved Sylphrena. Odium would have Dalinar, but not the Stormfather. Hence Dalinar would no longer be a Bondsmith.