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Criminals ... Given Survivorist doctrine and Kelsier's views I cannot see how they would avoid hemalurgy as a part of the criminal justice system. In fact how would you justify that you can shoot somebody for a crime but not perform hemalurgy on them?

Kelsier wants a space programme and a eugenics movement for a reason.

We see Marasi throw a time grenade on them and destroy the artificial perpendicularity. But that does not explain their withdrawl. It merely delays them and denies them their chosen route. Scadrial has at least one natural perpendicularity. They had a choice between just going home, which is a long march, and going to that perpendicularity, which is nearby. Kelsier implied to Harmony that he made them turn around. How? At first they did not have the people to deal with the crisis and a few weeks later they can win a battle in Shadesmar? What happened?

Because that would not alarm the Ghostbloods and lead Kelsier with centuries of experience to confront Harmony. The Ghostbloods know how to confront locally dangerous areas. They have aviar. They get stuff from Threnody.. They have contact to Sel.

They aren't. The market in Oathbringer featured many extraplanetary goods. None of it from Silverlight. Lasting Integrity had extraplanetary traders. They came from Nalthis. Riino's food came from Scadrial. Even interplanetary space took Kelsier many days to walk and he had no elderly, children or wounded and did not need to carry food. How would you talk to them? In which language? Why would they wish to talk to you? How could you trust them? And then, obviously, why do you end up on a coast? MeLaan didn't meet them in interstellar space.

Something is affecting large parts of Shadesmar. This is happening a few years after the True Desolation. What else would it be? Autonomy? If that is the proposal you need to explain why she is attacking both sides in the Rosharan war.

The temporal proximity to SA#5 is too close. And the voyages are still possible, but dangerous, And the blockages are arising within a relatively short time, but not simultaneously. It fits military activity.

No. It was unsealed, otherwise Waxillium could not have used it. Granted we are not explicitly told that he is not a Feruchemist, but to explain that he could be a Feruchemist and yet the Bands would not work for him is difficult.

The revelation that Kelsier is no longer an Allomancer totally casts in doubt that he is the Sovereign and made the Bands of Mourning. In fact it makes the coppermind coin of Bands of Mourning almost inexplicable.

I am sorry, but that is precisely what it did fail to. You do not make the protagonist a Mistborn and call that a conclusion. And the book totally blew away the things we already had about the Sovereign.

Oathbringer told us that the perpendicularity exists. But the avatar? When was it called "primary"? When ghostbloods talk about systems to travel to? Primary is likelier to have an economic sense here. I would doubt that. To be so alarming the loss of reachable planets must be recent and it needs to be connected to Shadesmar specifically. "Travel to Bjendal has been completely upset." If you identify Bjendal with First of the Sun, Patji has been being a dangerous passage for times immemorial. Roshar has become a war zone. That getting there is a problem is not that alarming. In fact the proposed treaty does say nothing about continuing the war in Shadesmar. At the risk of repeating myself, it seems to me that Odium's forces are on the march and attacking subastrals. Thus Bjendal is really a new planet.

My Sanskrit dictionary has "suna" as "summit, mountain ridge, highland" It looks like a compound "pra" is obviously "front, foreward", but I have no idea of "sanva" is supposed to be.

Roshar says otherwise. The animals in symbiosis have related features. And mainland birds also react to the worms. This is false. I am sorry, but this is obviously false. You could not find gigantic gemhearts by mining on Roshar if greatshells did not predate the Shattering and they must have had bonds granting powers to not have collapsed under their own weight. They agree to leave it. Though, yes, in theory one may have stayed behind.

It has an avatar now. That must postdate the Shattering. But Arcane Powers there must be millions of years old. They have animals and even plants which have evolved to include telepathy into their anatomy losing eyes in favor of telepathy. Autonomy has sent an avatar there because there is a plethora of invested beings there, not the other way round. Exactly, as do dragons and the Sho Del or the Messenger MeLaan met. And, frankly, so does Roshar. The Greatshells have evolved in a symbiosis with Spren. Something has happened. In fact it looks like Odium's armies are marching. The Shards are most likely preoccupied. Kelsier uses it like it is an extraordinary pick. It makes sense in the Scadrian language. No other planet does. That means Scadrians have given it that name. So they are unlikely to be in any contact, not even indirect, with it. It is literally a myth to them. That strongly suggests a candidate: Yolen

I am sorry, but no, First of the Sun disproves that notion. As do the Aethers.

No, but Shadesmar beyond a planet's subastral is a featureless plain of black rock. And there are no road signs. Your chances of hitting a city-sized target after walking for thousands of kilometers are essentially zero. Yes, there are caravans, but it does not look like you can just walk into a travel agency in Lasting Integrity and book a ticket. You hire guides.

How do you know that it has a Shard? If I were looking for allies I look at systems without Shards, so I'd get allies without complications.

Silverlight is supposed to be in interstellar space Where are the people of Silverlight? Where is the infrastructure And, I am afraid I have to ask the obvious question, how would you find it?

What makes you think so? Just using Silverlight's postal service does not mean you are in Silverlight.

Or alternatively it fails because Kandra are doing it. They carry the wrong spike. Or, more sinister, Waxillium pulled it off precisely because the trellium spike he used had the right hemalurgic charge.

Provided them with a metal that underlies a lot of their technology. Given them access to interstellar travel in form of a perpendicularity.

Well, they apparently do not live in Lasting Integrity, but that she met some of them there shows that they know of it. That raises a big problem. We learned in Rhythm of War that it takes Stormlight to keep plants alive in Shadesmar. You also need Stormlight (or presumably other forms of Investiture) to make water. You see the problem for a group of Horneaters living apart of the trade routes? And that makes it so odd. If you were a Horneater stranded in Shadesmar or Roshar were getting so bad that you needed to get out, where would you go? To a place people are known to live at. Lasting Integrity has traders coming and going at a regular pace. Should we assume that it has been razed? Not to a totally unknown place whose perpendicularity they'd have to find if they had any other option.

This is sort of odd. It may be tempting to attribute the red-haired people needing help to Horneaters forced to flee by events of SA#5. That however creates horrible problems in terms of timing. As far as we can now tell the Final Days are in 1175 (Vorin calender). So either those Horneaters have been wandering through Shadesmar for the better part of a decade of or era 2 is before the True Desolation. It is very difficult to pull this off without Hoid having to be on Scadrial and Roshar at the same time, as Waxillium would probably not rehire a coachman on demand. If they have survived Shadesmar for years, why would they need help now? On the other hand we have the Ghostbloods talking about problems with Worldhopping, Are they talking about Fused Dalinar leading Odium's armies on a rampage through Shadesmar? If that is the case are the Horneaters turned into refugees part of the events of SA#6? If we rule out era2 being before the first arc of Stormlight and assume SA#5 to end in 1175 then Alloy of Law cannot be before 1181. And if the Horneaters are really displaced in SA#6 We arrive at it taking place after 1185. What do you think?

Given that people at the university know that lerasium can turn you into a Mistborn I find that unlikely.

That raises the question of the life cycle of the aethers of whether they indeed have one. We do not know whether there is only the one Core Aether or whether Core Aethers are life forms that somehow reproduce and whether the bonded form is a part of the life cycle or a side branch like soldier forms in social insects. The unbonded form which we saw in Oathbringer is what you could call a stone, a shiny colored stone, but a stone. "jana-" goes back to the "*genh1-" root (thus "jani" in Sanskrit - set root) which seems to still have a broader meaning. Stonekin? Stonefolk?