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Yes. However, the number of Bondsmiths is still very small. They can do this a few times on special occasions. In the big scheme Radiants are limited by the fuel they can practically carry. And by leakage of Stormlight. It barely lasts across a Weeping in the biggest gems. They cannot stockpile fuel. Do we have an idea how high the practile operating radius of a Windrunner is? It looks to me to be on the order of a thousand kilometers to me. That is, to cross major oceans, you need ships or elsecalling.

Why then are spanreeds blocked by being in an aluminium cage? And why can you not lash through Plate? They likely have as many seekers as the Radiants have Lightweavers. Now the Lightweavers can pick their targets. But for planning they need to know whether they can be detected. Very risky. Their utility is much diminished. May I point out that neither of them had a few centuries of experience at directing them? No. You can still take parts of example one crossbow to repair others because they are standardized and measured. It depends on whether the Scadrians find a way to counter Cohesion. Unknown. And on the Rosharans finding the enemy bases. A planet is a big place. If all goes well. The Rosharans are better under adverse conditions. And they are able to use infrastructure. Radiants navigate visually - on an alien planet, without maps If they were aircraft, we'd say they have leaky tanks. They can land and wait for a few days, but not weeks Coinshots can use prepositioned anchors. In that case navigation is provided for. Conviniently Radiants glow and Coinshots can sense each other and the weapons of their oponents At night or bad weather the Coinshots are ahead. Neither gravitaion nor elsecalling If we are taking about taking a planet, he will need ships. That takes time. Who will win on the high seas depends on storage. If the Radiants can recharge spheres on a ship, they will win in a fleet engagement. If not, the Scadrians will win, due to superior technology and allomancy, whose fuel keeps indenfinitely. Another can of worms. Spren cannot wear a helmet. What will emotional allomancy do to them?

Opening open questions in serial. If you use Cohesion (or Soulcasting for that matter), how do your commands get to their target? And what does a coppercloud do to that transmission? Highstorms? Officers in TLR's army will be noble, hence there will be a lot of allomancers among them. Inquisitors will have importance. They are allomancers. Arrow, crossbows, javelins, slings - preferrably with poisoned missiles? By themselves yes. WIth allomantic officers the story may be different. It also gets you interchangeable parts. That is exactly what he may do. If your enemy has Cohesion that may be a bad idea, but the Scadrians do not necessarily know that. Yes. That comes with air superiority. The Scadrians will be forced to go to night operations. You cannot have a high rate of losses if this is to make sense. Hence you build combat teams. That is already the Scadrian style. We are quite sure Pewterarms are stronger than mere Radiants. Against people in Plate the situation is unclear. Yes. Marching over wet ground. That will be fun to a people only knowing wet rock. For all we know Regals did it. They can definitly pool powers. Radiants can combine their different powers. It may require a Bondsmith.

Pain? Dryness? Warning? Heat?

As far as we know Division can not be used at range. They are not used to soil. Or dense forests. Or swamps. How would a neutral planet look like? Earth in the precambrian? Then both sides are likely to die from starvation before they find the other side. And the air would be barely or not at all breathable. Either you have Highstorms or not. If not, the planet won't look like Roshar. Indeed the numbers conflict. You can disguise your features. What does that buy you? Do you want to impersonate somebody? Then a perfect mask will not solve your problems. Now Rosharans look differently from Scadrians. A personal disguise will solve that issue. But there is still language: He is a Bondsmith. He cannot create illusions. At best he can teach languages. Do you know how hard it is to get rid of a foreign accent? It takes years of total immersion at a minimum. Granted, that is for human learners. Spren are better. No. He can then repeat the phrases perfectly. Does he know how to form a plural? Does he know syntax? Declensions or conjugations? The layout of the city he was supposed to be stationed in? Vocabulary? How to eat like a Scadrian? How to bind his shoe laces? How to curse when he stubs his toes or drops his canteen? How to greet a superior officer? That would take years of study. With a tiny number of teachers. There must be two kinds of lines. Otherwise every Coinshot or Lurcher would have steelsight. Hence you need to get the right kind of stuff into your illusions. While you have no way of looking at your own work. This will fail. No Tineyes, no Seekers, no Electrum. Fewer large cities to train in. No forests with immobile trees to train in. Their main weapon they train with is a huge sword. But they can put them in storage and they will be good for decades. Not so Stormlight. Except for a small number of perfect gems, they run dry after two weeks or so. There are three of them. And how long does a supercharge last? A week? No. Fighting during the night. Literally. The period the sun is on the other side of a planet. Knights Radiant are radiant. Their bodies shine. Their armor shines. Their fuel shines. You are visible from far You ruin the night vision of verybody on your side Again, no equivalent of tin No equivalent of bronze Will they know the passwords? All the other Knights will. And even an illusionist is not immune from a Tineye. mass production superior metalurgy canned food Guns are far from their only technical edge. A million crossbow bolts. Ten thousand cross bows. All doable. Not so easy with Rosharan technology.

That has opened another can of worms. How does a coppercloud look in the CR? Can they see at all? Unknown I'd say. They have a year to prepare. ANd Rosharan troops will find themselves in a totally alien environment. Hence they won't send them out in adverse conditions after the first few defeats. And the likelihood of having a Coinshot or Lurcher increases with the importance of the base you want to infiltrate. Seekers. An Inquisitor has to use allomancy permanently. If he does not pulse, he is fake (or under copper - but they'd ask him to drop it). And there is still the issue of speech. Limits (typo) Leaving out morphology, syntax, intonation ... Now, a Cryptic may eventually learn all this. But that still gives you no way to impersonate an allomancer in the presence of Seekers or Mistborn. It has to stand up to an Inquisitor's extended steel sight and to normal steelsight. If they show the same result, you have found an impostor. Badly. Now, while Roshar has some advantages, which I would judge decisive, there are still things Scadrial can try. They do have advantages, too. They are much better at fighting in close quarters. Their Investiture does not decay. They are better at night fighting They are very hard to surprise They have a technological edge. If the Scadrians tried to mount a campaign based on them, it may work. And we know too little on how the magics interact. What do the blue lines mean? Does Gravitation actually work on something that is touched by allomantic power? What is the effect of copperclouds on the various powers and their range?

No vials. No weapons. No body armor. Does not use allomancy. Instantly obvious to any Seeker. Yes. But that liits tactical options enormously. EDIT: Yes. But that limits tactical options enormously. (A typo where it really matters) Bondsmiths are not Lightweavers. He could teach them how to say a few pass phrases without an accent to give them away. But not a whole conversation. But not taught. Not without an accent and with the implicit cultural knowledge associated. Yes, it would give them metal lines. Even to a conventional Coinshot or Lurcher. Instant give away. Lightweaving gives them both options. They are all problematic but to different degrees. Prisoners have to be interrogated. It has to be determined what allomancy can do. The enemy's technology has to be understood. A new world has to be understood. Convince Skaa that there are other options than fighting. They do not yet exist. This the Final Emipre. No Ferrings. You have full Feruchemists, Inquisitors and TLR himself. That's it for Feruchemy.

Can they supply them? The raw population numbers are interesting but not all that helpful. The troops need to eat. Koloss probably can eat the local vegetation. The rest of the troops cannot without agriculture. And here the Scadrians have an advantage. The environment of a terrestial planet is utterly alien to Rosharans. They need to import all their food or use Investiture (Soulcasting and Progression) to produce it. Also their techniques for food preservation are more primitive. The Scadrians in principle could try farming. At least they know what soil is. Again, the most crucial information of the scenario is missing. Is there a local population to take away supplies from?

That won't work. Everybody they are likely to simulate would be wearing a helmet and some kind of weapon. The metal lines would be missing or wrong. They can disguise themselves or other people as Scadrians. That, however, creates a problem. They do not speak their language. They can hide themselves or others under illusions of inanimate objects. That also creates an issue with metal lines. Nobody of them could be wearing anything metallic. Doable for a KR with at least his blade. But not for anybody else. Even then they depend on no Tineye hearing or smelling them. Good luck with that after a few days in the field. But the most basic question remains open. What constitutes winning? If the Scadrians hold a single base with TLR in it and the KRs the rest of the planet, who do you consider the winner?

How else but with Fortune can you explain the hit job on Hrathen in Teod? If Wyrn had known the reason, why would he have sent a single man? It just seem like a mission based on foreknowledge without understanding.

Unless you meet a new problem. If events are independent. Which they are usually not. Take crime. It is concentrated. The best predictor of future crime is past convictions. That helps you against pirates and other threats at sea. That is good, but insufficient. On Opelon/Sycla, there are only two actors left basically. Teoden and Arelon can trade between each other, if the Derethi lands do not wish to trade. Does Teod produce a lot that Arelon will buy? Ships presumably. The basic consideration that drove the alliance between Teod and Arelon still exists. Very soon people will point out that Elantris was saved by serendipity and Sarene's policies would have doomed the people. Try selling that to teenagers and people who very living dead for months.

Why gravitation specifically? That is true.

That is not entirely true. We have Zane Venture. He was bred intentionally. Straff Venture was many things, but not an idiot. There was a realistic chance of success. That breeding programm was dangerous. In theory it was a capital crime. Hence the ratio must be somewhere between roughly 1:50 to 1:500.

How long? For their life time. The 16% tell us nothing about the population of Scadrial. The allomancy came from the Mist only, or you would get a bell curve. They allow no conclusion for Scadrial during TLR. After that it depends on how much they breed true. Unknown.

Because he was at that point crazy. And obsessed with finding a constant number. Occupational hazard. It makes sense given his personality and shard, but it is still false. You cannot send a signal with a number a recipient does not know. The signal was in the sharpness of the peak. If the mists had acted like an infection or a poison, you would still get an average number of casualties, who fall ill. Yet it would be an average. Plotting the actual cases you would get the classical bell curve. But they got a sharp peak. That would be the same whatever sensible number Leras had picked. It just tells us that Leras speaks a language that uses a number system based on ten.

No. It was for everybody exposed to the mists at that specific time. And Leras is not thinking clearly at that time anymore. 16% is not a set number. It depends on the number base. We count by base ten. Apparently so does Scadrial. But this is not universal. The really telling data point they noticed was the absolutely fixed ratio per incident. The number of afflicted people did not follow a normal distribution. Any constant number would have done the job.

He could pay them. So let's assume it was all atium all along. Yet still TLR has used up 500 000 years of youth. Marsh as a worst case about 50 000 years. Probably much less. At Marsh's age it still matters how young you make yourself most of them time.

We do not know how much Marsh stored up while he was young. If he was ready to spend half his time at age 85, assuming he was 35 when he started, that gives him 675 stored years How many of his years did he gain by using cadmium?

TLR is much older. His fuel requirements have gone up. Do they go up proportionally?

location - he has to know where they are navigation - he has to find them, without maps on an alien planet larger bodies of water and if they really wanted to, they could have bases in the CR range. He can compound, but that sows him down and he needs to carry the metal. He will certainly outrun his supply train Remember if you are TLR and get lost, you live only as long as your atium lasts

To an extent. If there is no Stormlight, the KRs will be doomed. If there is an easy source, things reverse. The Radiants are much more self-contained. The metalborn are perfect assassins and paramilitaries. They have no facilities for supporting themselves. The KRs are almost a technicologically advanced civilization upon themselves. They have logistics (soulcasters, progression = farmers), sappers, combat engineers, field medics, transportation (much better than steelpushing) and intelligence specialists. Metalborn need somebody and something to make their metals. In the very long run that means mines and smelters. And not just primitive ones. Their metals must be pure and the alloys precisely mixed. Hence they need fixed installations. Or long supply routes. TLR can defend at most one of them at a time. And if you include him, the supplies must work. He needs his atium. They still have the advantage of a fuel supply that does not spoil. Meaning naval aviation and troops. WIth them, the Rosharans rule the oceans. Frictionless ships with air support and control over the wind. Unbeatable. Unless he is willing the reveal the secret and actually make the stuff (chromium is harder to refine than preindustrial metals), it matters relatively little. TLR himself is chained to his atium supply. On very short distances. They have maybe two dozen steelrunners who can compound and we are talking about a planet. And it is limited to land. No, he wouldn't, as they would fail. The Radiants dominate the sky dominate the ocean (no way for coinshots or mistborn to fly over water except with extreme limitations) can change bases more quickly have global range (elsecalling) have better communication (spanreeds) have more reliable troops (Skaa in small unsupervised groups on a habitable planet - interesting concept) have supply routes out of enemy reach - everything flying at a few kilometers height is basically untouchable to anything but maybe emotional allomancy) The Metalborn have advantages, but they are basically immobile on an operational level their fuel supply does not spoil for decades they benefit much more from a prepared battlefield (preinstalled metal anchors) they have a true strength in urban combat (better sensors and speed on a short scale) no good magic means of transportation They won't beat an enemy who can teleport at guerilla. Where would you store them if you were a Radiant? On islands within easy flight range of your targets. That is the strange point within the original premise. Whence to get Stormlight? And the obvious one, if your battlefield is a planet, how will you find each other? Build ships and go sailing around the world? The advantage here depends on context. The larger and emptier of people the battlefield the better for the KRs. Provided they have enough Stormlight. Correct. Hence we must conclude that the Singers were more numerous or we haven't seen what Forms of Power in large numbers and with training can do. And the Unmade have shown only a small part of their full power.

Because the ether is an object. Your powers derive from a bond with that object. There is no point in mentioning such a system in relation to Elantrians. It is clear that it is irrelevant to Sel. An Elantrian is a modified person, like an Allomancer or a Sandmaster, only more visibly so.

We also know that there is no kind of bond involved. That would be obvious. If it is to be comparable to AonDor, the personal state of people has to be involved. One is a sandmaster or is not. But an Aviar, for example, can be acquired and lost, bringing and taking abilities with it. That means, as the ether we have seen is a physical crystal, Vax is unlikely to be the place the ethers come from.

Yes. At the one place where he is. And that sums up his main problem. Unfortunately he has to eat (technically not, but he does not know about chrome and cadmium if we are talking about era 1). The Radiants have the advantage in mobility through elsecalling and gravitation. Thanks to soulcasting and Cohesion they also have better supplies and field engineering. If you cannot meet the Lord Ruler in open field combat, then there is an obvious solution: don't. Wear him down by guerilla action and strike at his supply chain.

Context. Is the battlefield full of abandoned cities with metallic objects. Wide open plains or dense jungles? What is the climate like? Is their food? Do you get resupplies?And the elephants in the room. Does Plate protect against Leeching or emotional allomancy? And not to be snarky, but how do they find each other? This is a whole planet. Do they have objectives? Do they need to keep certain areas? Can a Seeker detect a spren on a recon mission? Can spren enter copperclouds? Can you soulcast within a coppercloud? Does a steelrunner gain the momentum associated with his quickness?