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Discovering Dustbringer ideals via Spensa(Starsight Spoilers!)
Oltux72 replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
She isn't a traitor. She will not forsake her side for whatever reason, but she will not respect authority for the sake of authority. Jezrien is supposed to rule, yet the first oaths of the Windrunners are about protection. That connection is not tight. The Windrunners and the Dustbringers will come to your aid, while the Stonewards will die for you, but only in holding the walls. So I would guess something like: I will seek the enemy out, rather than hide behind walls and gates. -
While that is possible, the Mistborn will have multiple vials and a bead is not exactly easy to find. Surges probably not, but I am confident Navani is working on weaponizing fabrials. A painrial is likely. A halfshard shield. Some communication device. A greatbow. A warnrial. Then why do all the oath gates have a section in the CR? Not at the speed a Mistborn flies or can run. You can do that. Yet you tell your opponent where you are in a coarse sense. Again it depends on terrain? Is there metal? This leads us to an unspecified part of the scenario. Why do they fight? Personal hatred? Who has the choice of the battle field? Still much slower than a Mistborn. His gems still leak. As a Mistborn is faster (unless we are talking about the teleporting orders) he has fist access to the areas the Radiant will move in
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That (as far as the order can do that) comes down to an unknown: can you hide yourself with copper? Why? Isn't that the next logical innovation that will happen on Scadrial? Glass is fragile and metal a vulnerability. But can they teleport in the CR? And that raft method really wasn't fast. No, but smell the moving targets and use it to defeat the hiding under illusionary rock trick. Yet how fast? Is that tactically useful? It depends on how far you can see with tin or detect a Radiant with bronze. Terrain again. Hoid sensed something. The Mistborn can retreat at first. Metalls don't leak. Stormlight does.
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Yet people can see something in the CR. There is light or something acting like light. And we have Kaladin observing a lack of radiated heat from the fire at the light house. So, is this because the objects emitting the light are not "real" or is this physics of the CR?
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But that is a difference. In terms of radiocarbon dating you get a burst of radiation which quickly reaches the expected age or the object has that age. Let's make a thought experiment. We break the seal tossing the belt into an electric arc. The cognitive aspect changes. Which radiocarbon age does the resulting vapor show?
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You aren't the only one. Yet we also remember Dalinar and Adolin mowing down people like grass. The only serious contenders would be Radiants and Elantrians. And it does not change specialisations. Mistborn are primarily assassins, not infantrists. Not really. Radiants are designed to support an army. They are supplied with magical weapons, have a strong defensive component and a lot of capabilities for logistics, support, reconaissance and field engineering. Mistborn see alot, sneak well and hit hard. But they are no use in setting up a field base with a hospital. In groups the Radiants win. One on one, it really depends on terrain.
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The bearer of Yelig-Nar equipped with Blade and Plate may stand a chance, if he lives long enough to train his powers. Presumably if you hit him. Big if. His weakness is on the supply side. Metalls don't grow on trees or are a side effect of storms. A Fullborn without fuel is just a Feruchemist. His range over water is also limited. A Fullborn can actually walk on water (in fact a Feruchemist can), but the range is limited by his metalls. So it is again a question of terrain. If he is in range of a city or industrial with metals , you will run out of luck. Get the nukes ready. If you absolutely need to confront him, you will need mobile forces, like Skybreakers, Windrunners, Mistborn, Elsecallers, Willshapers and Elantrians (in Arelon). Use allomantic grenades. Radiants armed with medaillons could be a good option.
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Well, yes, but sight and sound are merely man's main senses not the only ones. A Lightweaver could not convincingly simulate many flowers or, let's be blunt, a turd. Usually that does not matter. It would matter if the people to be decieved had a dog or, albeit not as good, a sense of smell enhanced by allomantic tin. If the Lightweaver knows that the Mistborn is around before the attack begins, the Mistborn has already made a serious mistake. Radiants are better infantry. There is no question about that. Hence the key is not being drawn into an infantry battle. Can the Mistborn do that? He has the advantage in sensors and (mostly) mobility. He is also, at least briefly, much stronger. That points to ambushes and hit-and-run attacks. Can he pull that off? It very much depends on the environment and an unknown factor, namely, whether a copper cloud can mask your soul in the CR. On a wide open field I would bet on the Radiant. In a jungle, the Mistborn. Honorspren. Ivory and Wyndle seem to be basically be limited to walking. Glys and Pattern are in between. Well, Roshar is supposed to be much richer in Investiture. Surges, dafe for Lightweaving, and Stormlight should actually be louder. Spren are made from Investiture.
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As Kaladin did not keep accelerating but reached a final speed, air still causes friction. Well, if visible light does not behave like in the PR, why would radio waves?
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If you wabt that match to be interesting, put him against the bearer of Yelig-Nar.
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And those he has deposited. If he is carrying everything on his person, he will have earned his death. And if The Radiant manages to locate the Mistborn The Mistborn doesn't use vials made from aluminium The Mistborn would retreat. A Radiant in the CR has to walk. That scenario would end in a draw. That raises a question. How much does tin enhance your sense of smell? Can a Lightweaver fake that? Jungle, caves, built up terrain, especially at night. Can you track use for endurance and healing? How mobile are spren and can you sense them with bronze?
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Skybreaker oaths (explained via Lady Justice)
Oltux72 replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
Are you understanding this that the fifth ideal means to pick a school of legal theory and to act accordingly even in the absence of specifc laws? That is to understand it not as setting the law but being bound by it? -
Edgedancer Oaths(via the modern Hippocratic oath)
Oltux72 replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
I am afraid I have to disagree. Edgedancers are the Robin Hood / social worker type, not strictly limited to medicine. In fact, medicine is their secondary function. Abrasion is easier. I guess Angelina Jolie would be an Edgedancer. Their second oath looks rather like remembering the underpriviledged or downtrodden, rather than something related to medicine. -
Discovering Dustbringer ideals via Spensa(Starsight Spoilers!)
Oltux72 replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
A Dustbringer would have joined Moash. What we know of Spark does tell us that forgiveness is not a virtue to them. Nor are they good at defense. -
That and if the illusion is wearing any metal (buttons, belt, armor ...) there will be no metal lines. They also have a sensory advantage due to tin, bronze, atium and electrum. They also have an advantage in stealth and blending in. Shard Plate or a Blade are kind of obvious. Also, they glow. Mistborn are assassins. The Knights Radiant are soldiers. Indeed. Slugging it out is not a viable option, unless we are talking about a Radiant without a blade. Or to use ambush and surprise. A Radiant cannot stay in plate forever. Striking while he is tending to certain bodily needs is a possible option. Right, but you can still track on the negative. If that illusion looks like it is using Stormlight, but you "hear" nothing, that is an illusion. I am afraid that is already the basic mistake. Swinging a shard blade against a single opponent not in Plate makes little sense. You have a vorpal edge and massive length, almost like a light sabre but longer. Use them. Run them through with a thrust. In most of these battle questions the terrain is not specified. And without that we can list only factors. And that is no good for a final judgement. For example, is this a populated city where the mistborn can just walk by and strike by surprise? And abandoned city full of metal objects? An open savanna without any metals but what the Mistborn carries? Is there enough water around so that the Mistborn can just wait for an opponent to run out of Stormlight without death from thirst?
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If you break the seal on a forgery, will the underlying object have aged? Let's say you make a belt from fresh leather and decorate it by forgery. After a hundred years somebody breaks the seal and does a radiocarbon dating. Will it show zero years or one hundred years?
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On dry land. That is more or less unavoidable. Airports that are supposed to be economical need to have a certain size. What you could do is materialize a temporary working platform, on which you can assemble the final structure made from components shipped from the PR.. There are marked differences. Where is the wind? You have dark land areas next to reflective oceans of beads. The land areas heat up faster if there is light. There ought to be wind. What causes heat differences? The pseudosun certainly not. Geometry of space must be off. Suppose you build a long tunnel. If the surface is truly flat, the tunnel is now too short.
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Right, but this cuts both ways. You do not want to shove a whole aircraft through a perpendicularity, do you? So dou want to build a floating airport? The CR has no wind, so you could build a structure that would not withstand a storm. Yet by thatargumenyt you can also build a pontoon bridge. Yes, they will have radios. But that does not tell us whether radios work in the CR.
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A majority of the area of a terrestial planet is water. Hence most of the CR is land. The amount of freight an aircraft at that level of technology will carry is minimal. Unless you want to import airships, you will most likely lose money. Add to that the issue of reliability. Early aircraft weren't all that reliable. And if you go down in the CR you will almost certainly perish, unless you are found very soon. There is no water and they have no radios, which may or may not work in the CR anyway. Finally, how do you navigate? There are no stars and the sun is always at the same place in the sky.
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Even more important, through which perpendicularity did he leave? When did Harmony's perpendiculatity form and how did he locate it?
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Scadrial already has gasoline engines. That would avoid the issue of water. The energy density of the fuel would also be favorable, as well as the higher efficiency of the engine.
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WoB an off world blades If exploration were the goal, you should of course send an explorer. But Roshar is suffering a desolation. They are not looking for knowledge, but for weapons.
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Friction. A horse can pull a fairly large train on level ground, while it is limited to one waggon on a road. Interoperability. You do not want to operate a facility for repacking stuff between subastrals or at their edge, as supplying them would suck. Not just off world. But usable by off-worlders. An aviar or an aether can be exported. Why do you think he built it himself? The lighthouses are common at the tips of peninsulas. They likely predate Riino. He just rented one or took the job. Can you awaken while you are a Cognitive Shadow? Right. And political conditions are already prerevolutionary. You really do not want to introduce cheap foreign labor into that mess. Notum's spyglass? Mraiześ weapons? Any bulk metal could also come from Elantris. The spren are running the trade I suppose. Anything that AonDor can make. They will also want spices and dyes. Scientific instruments, too. If enough people think that it is a long trip from Roshar to Scadrial it probably will be a long trip, regardless of your speed in the CR. So indeed your speed may lengthen the distance. That is not really something relativity does, but it is close. I mean its geometry must be non-eucleadean if you can squash a globe onto a flat surface without distorting shapes. Hence I would strive for increased capacity in terms of freight rather than higher speeds. Its likelier to work.
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Shallan outright says it He is the only one who is in the inner circle, a military officer and with no spren chaining him to Roshar. It is not as if he would make a decision all of his own to go off world. The allied governments and the Knights Radiant are learning about a wider world with new ressources, weapons, potential allies and refuges. They need to imvestigate. For the same reason the Radiants would send a high ranking representative. The delay in communication is weeks. Whomever he sends must be trusted enough to make binding promises. You have a point Rysyn is kind of a long shot. If he really wants undieing fame, this is the best opportunity.
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I guess you would get the empty device without the spren. Maybe even without the gems. They have built permanently inhabitated structures. Which means that people or spren will think about such structures on a permanent basis. Hence we can not rule out that it takes thoughts to keep places in place, especially as planets move with respect to each other. That is dangerous to assume. How often do you answer to the question, "how far is that?" with "2 hours in good traffic"? Why eternal? You have access to a perpendicularity, in fact at least two of them. You can repeat the Kelsier-process. Walk them into the shard pool and then run them through with your sword. You have created a Cognitive Shadow. In fact you could sell a kind of immortality. People can pay with a period of labor, if they don't have cash. Aluminium armor. How would you reenter the PR without them? Neutral perpendicularities seems absolutely necessary. You need Scadrial for the canned food alone. It is also technologically advanced, in fact at the top of the readily accessible worlds. You also need something exportable, preferably magical. You can export Scadrians, but not Scadrian magic. (let's not talk hemalurgy) So what is exportable? Stormlight is difficult, it does not keep. Breaths are ideal, but the source is politically difficult. Aviars would be good, but the source is just not safe. So where would I go other than Scadrial? the place the Aethers come from Ashyn Elantris, if you can brave the Dor
