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Theory on Fabrials and the War (SDCC Reading)
Oltux72 replied to kuiinteth of isaana's topic in Cosmere Discussion
(Scadrial) Now, ity is possible that replacing air is just the most basic function of Stormlight, hence it still works. However, summoning a Blade does not need Stormlight at all. Kaladin did it even after he had run dry. Also teleportation still worked. If that was the Surge of Transportatition, the fabrial was strictly aimed at Stormlight specifically. If the fabrial could be defeated by your spren just going back a few dozen meters, it would suck. -
Even if the storm as a physical phenomenon persisted, its arcane power would vanish. Hence everything with a vital gem heart would be dead in a few weeks. Ecological collapse would set in immediately. You'd have removed most predators and all top predators. If the crem stops flowing, the nutritional situation will change drastically. Many plants will die out.
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I am afraid that I need to point out that Honor is hardly an unbiased source of information about Odium. He may be unable to outright lie, but his attitude may shine through.
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Gavilar is not OK with the way his wife is looking at Dalinar. Personally and professionally.
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Then why was Moash there? Explaining that away takes multiple unlikely assumptions. So they are sending Kaladin, Lift, Godeki (spelling?) and Shallan on the day The Mink happens to be there by accident? Correct. So they are sacrificing that Fused. Moash intends to be captured. Why? The hostages force the Windrunner to protect them. Killing them is not a problem as long as the Windrunner believes them to be alive. Yes. Which plan? That is a distinct possibility. Right. Hence you take them hostage and threaten dire mistreatments. Also true. Sending Kaladin makes perfect sense. The point is sending him undisguised. That brand of his is really distinctive. Good point. I admit. I did not. But Rosharans look for eye color. Using his blade he gave away that he has a Shard Blade. Why? We are missing crucial information. You do not just bring somebody with a Honor Blade to your HQ.
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I am afraid I will have to disagree. Lirin is ready to take personal risks to keep people safe. Coward does not fit. Yet his attitude is a slave's attitude. Yes, his people will live, as long as they do not bother their masters. But will they ever be free? Probably not. If you refuse to fight, why not take any possible advantage of you? Why not take your money? Or your daughter, for that matter? It is hard to impossible to say that some injustices are worth fighting for but others are not. In the end all rules need somebody willing to enforce them. And that will need a readiness to resort to violence.
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Well, raising the question why his handlers allowed that without questions. Had they known, why let Kaladin's family live freely. And while we are at it, why did Moash not attack Kaladin's family? Well, the people there did not expect Kaladin. And The Mink does not know him. So the Radiants are sending in Lift, Godeki and Shallan without backup transport? Not really a well planned mission. Lirin recognized him right away.
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It is perfectly plausible for Moash to want to do that. But it means that he expected Kaladin. And that raises the question of why they sent so weak a force that it could be entirely defeated with the distrastrous effect of a novel fabrial falling into enemy hands. Then why are they defeated so soundly? Why? Any Windrunner would do. In fact any Radiant would do.
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Theory on Fabrials and the War (SDCC Reading)
Oltux72 replied to kuiinteth of isaana's topic in Cosmere Discussion
(Scadrial) And the Stormlight is still capable of acting as a replacement for breathing. -
If you send such a fabrial into the field, you will not send a weak team and you will train the operators to destroy it before it falls into enemy hands. Five badly trained soldiers? That's a joke. So Moash just happened to decide to kill Roshone on the day The Mink happens to be there? He just happens to show up the first time a new fabrial is used? And he chooses to confront Kaladin and then chooses to surrender without fighting? Without preparation or guarantee he will end up in Urithiru? On the mere suspicion that he would meet them? And if he met them he would do what? Does he really expect not to be searched for exotic weapons? And why does he reveal that he has a Shard Blade by killing two prisoners? And the KRs will let him?
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What is the point of being a Herald after Honor's demise? If you wish to become immortal on Roshar, you either need to take up a Shard or become a Cognitive Shadow. It looks to me like Gavilar intended the latter. But why would he subject himself to the Oathpact if he could tap into it by other means?
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So they have been waiting for over 4000 years in the uncertain hope that somebody would come along and develop comfortable transportation? Even if the wish to leave is more recent, it must be quite a coincidence that it arose only at that time and that they are taking the risk that Gavilar's project will fail. Yet he is there. So why does he not walk away?
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Well, things do not make sense here. We are missing crucial information 1. They had a Fused, a new fabrial and Moash there. They were looking for Kaladin specifically. It is blindingly obvious that the Fused knew of the operation. 2. It is also obvious to the Fused that the KRs would deduce that Moash was not there by accident 3. What mission could Moash have that he can carry out although the KRs must suspect that he is a trap? 4. Why is that mission worth the loss of a Fused, teaching the KRs how to fight a new type of Fused and the loss of a "dampening fabrial"? Kaladin is a KR. The Fused have no way to forge a living Blade and a human with two Surges. And Lirin would surely recognise his son without a shash mark. The Mink never met Kaladin. They lost a brand new and tactically highly valuable fabrial. And they just happen to send an insufficient force when they have a chance to strike that hard? Of courswe they will question the whole village. OK, so I misheard.
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Thought about Lift from RoW Reading (spoilers)
Oltux72 replied to bridgemenspren's topic in Cosmere Discussion
It would be the end of the Singers. They could no longer change forms. It would end Roshar's ecology. It would doom the continent. Without tectonics the land would erode away. If he wants to do that it is unclear to me how he would keep the loyalty of the Fused.- 12 replies
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Yes he did. But that leaves two problems. Why bother? Why not just go to Cultivation's perpendicularity? What does that do for a Herald? They would be drawn back to the Rosharan system. That makes sense. Thence they need something that would manipulate Connection.
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Theory on Fabrials and the War (SDCC Reading)
Oltux72 replied to kuiinteth of isaana's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Well, a Shard Blade is about as physical as it gets. In fact more so than a spren in a fabrial. It is solid metal. -
Well, the obvious question first. What is Moash planning? The non-obvious but screemingly important question second - How did they know? Who betrayed the mission? Or is this futuresight? And why is Kaladin wearing his own face while Shallan is there to camouflage him? Who is this new Edgedancer? Did I get the name right - Godeki? Was that Fused using the Surge of Transportation or is that something else? What are the consequences to Kaladin's family and Laral? The Fused will investigate. He really cannot let them stay. Did I hear this correctly - Rlain is quarter master?
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The stuff they make cannot be stored. Nor do we know how much training you need to make edible meat.
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Sadeas has purpose in his cruelty and never claimed to be different. Gavilar is mean to his wife and we only have her side of the story. And frankly, Navani was a bit of a golddigger. Amaram, however, is a liar on top of everything and screwed over a genuine hero.
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Basically that is possible but not helpful to a Herald. Had they wanted that they could have used two of their Honorblades millenia ago. The box must have been doing more than just use Transportation.
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Presumably the magic fish in the Purelake are hers.
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(Scadrial) By her features she is not Thaylenah, Veden or Horneater. Indeed the simplest explanation is Navani or an unknown. Frankly, for all we know that could be Lift 5 years hence. I doubt he can positively know. That looks like a conclusion from his own reception and maybe his companions'. (Scadrial)
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The Alethi are actually TERRIBLE Politicians
Oltux72 replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
That is literally true. The problem is that they do not decide what they want in a political sense. Very few among the Alethi do have politics in the modern sense. Jasnah has, Moash has, Sadeas and Gavilar had. That is about it, as far as we know people. They do not subscribe to the idea that institutions should be shaped by political will. Their political actions are about tactical approaches and power, but not goals. How life should be can be taken from the religious books and priests will tell you what is in them if you ask. So what does it tell you if somebody is bad at what he does not do? If your main political goal is power, you are playing a zero-sum game. You either are boring and keep together what you have, or you bet your head. -
The Koloss end up stupid.
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The Alethi are actually TERRIBLE Politicians
Oltux72 replied to Karger's topic in Stormlight Archive
That I highly doubt. His actions and explanations after the betrayal of Dalinar are extremely hard to explain under that premise. He tried to make a martyr out of Dalinar and at the same time to show that Dalinar's methods were too reluctant and scrupulous. He tried to set the Alethi onto a course of ruthless conquest beginning with wiping out the Parshendi. He had started that course with not accepting surrenders. The man had a vision of repeating and outdoing the Sunmaker. An empire to be built in many decades and to last for centuries.
