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Yes. And that is the reason I am questioning any information gotten from chapters 1 to 8 (at least) used for sorting people into groups. We have no idea how Brandon viewed the "common starting section" when he made his diagramm. The problem with that reasoning is that sending Kaladin means sending Sylphrena, too. Yet the last time they were in Shadesmar she had a bounty on her. I guess the Radiants will be quite reluctant to take her to Shadesmar, let alone anywhere near Lasting Integrity. In addition, an officer delegates tasks to the people most suited to carrying them out. [On a tangent - there is a war going on. For at least the Windrunners and Stoewards talking about generic leaders is kind of misleading. They are military branches of the Knights Radiant. Calling them officers is simply honest]

Well, it is actually odd for the Fused to develop such technology. There are maybe a few dozen Radiants, but at least hundreds of Fused and thousands of Regals at least. If both sides acquired such technology, Odium's side would suffer a lot more. Hence I would assume that it is based on a principle that cannot be turned against the Fused, or alternatively it is trivial (First of the Sun) or (Scadrial) and the Radiants would discover it anyway in due course or the defense would be something simple like an aluminium helmet, so this thing is a gimmick to be used once or twice.

She is a problem. She is rumored to be mad, a heretic, approaching spinsterhood and there are not all that many candidates of her rank whom Gavilar wants an alliance with, due to simple numbers. And whatever her deficiencies are, as soon as she is married, they are no longer his problems. Her husband would be stuck with them. The alternative explanation would be that he suspected her to be bonding a spren, meaning that he needs to keep her close. Thirdly he may fail to achieve immortality. He needs an heir and Elhokar is questionable. Meridas Amaram is a plausible regent for his grandson. These possibilities are not mutually exclusive. Even if he became immortal, she would still be an image problem. A king who cannot find a husband for his whacko daughter has an image issue, especially if he cannot keep his wife from straying (at least mentally). He is pissed with the women in his family and the anger is grounded in reality. It would have been Navani's duty to prepare Jasnah for accepting a suitable husband. I am afraid we are talking about Jasnah. He would suffer a regrettable, fatal childhood illness. Jasnah was seeing things that are not there. Visions are not a good thing under Vorinism. Yet she does not end up in an asylum like Taln. She has a reason to love her father.

I find that extremely plausible. That would be extremely unwise, for eventually the truth would come out and that would jeopardize a vital agreement.

May I incovinience you by asking for reasons?

Because the only Elsecaller or at least Elsecaller with actual experience in Elsecalling they have is Jasnah, who happens to be the queen of Alethkar. In addition: Shallan has been to Shadesmar She knows how to manifest stuff She is fairly advanced as a Radiant She is fairly trustworthy. She is married to a Kholin, her brothers are in Urithiru . She is literate. She has some training by Jasnah Why send Adolin? Well they are married and he is second in line to the throne and in a sense rules House Kholin. The Spren know people are using dead blades. There is no point in hiding that. In fact, it may be seen as dishonest. Spren are not human.

What then determines which Form a Fused is in?

Well, no. He manifested ice. Apparently Shadesmar has atmospheric moisture, which you can condense.

But his soul resides in the brain, doesn't it?

It predates several edits, doesn't it? Yes, as far as we know, that is true. But that does not mean that we can yet tell which of the alternatives is true. I think the unstated assumption you are making is that we already are in part 1, while I think that it is possible that we are in a brief kind of intro and part 1 has to yet to begin with the split into groups. Exactly. I did not mean to say that both are true. I am saying that we lack the information that allows us to say which one is true.

True but incomplete. He does not tell Kaladin that lighteyes are not worth fighting for or against. He tells him that there is no use fighting. Period. He may be shortening his thoughts to speak to a young man, but it looks likelier that his pacifism is rooted in deeper principles.

It does. Very hard to explain otherwise. Quite reasonable An assumption that may or may not be true I would say that this is a conclusion drawn from three different sources with different levels of suport. At the very start before they split. We know that Kaladin and Shallan are unlikely to be together. Taking it to be relevant for any group is daring. Brandon mentioned that she is in chapter 7/8 and skipped it for an unmentioned reason. I will take the unpopular stance that the data we have is compatible with either option. EDIT: Though taking the blurb recently published I find it less likely that they are limited to tertiary rank.

Duty before Honor Thaylenah counterbase, Year 11 of Unified Roshar Meridas Amaram leaned back and fed Voidlight into the fabrial mesh powering his Shadecruiser. He felt a familiar tightness in his chest. He reached for his fish pills. The shadowy figure in the aluminium cage where his copilot should have been seated hissed and shrieked. The pressure vanished. “One day” he heard across his link. “I do not fear what duty leads me to” he answered aloud. “Nor am I above vengeance”. He felt a brief spike of revulsion over the link followed by silence. Well, he was not sure he could do it again. He would remember the howls of Dalinar and Jasnah as Gavilar’s device molded them into the rocks of Damnation, rekindling the pact that could not be broken again, whenever he saw Braize in the night sky. He didn’t look often. Yet the cordon had held. The men riding undead trunked beasts would not try again. He could not ignore what else lay out there any longer. His trusted aide saluted disapprovingly. ¨You know I have to do this myself. We caught that shapeshifting creature. I need to trust myself and time may be running out.” She nodded and rolled back beyond the safety lines. The ground crews disconnected the water hose and checked the doors. He checked on his deadeyes, regarded the crates of captured cans with an ironic twinkle in his eye, returned salutes and shifted forward the engine levers. The obsidian expanse fell back below and behind him. Vapours, here I come.

Are we sure the first few chapters aren't some kind of intro who do not count for the purpose of POVs and groups?

I am afraid I need to point out that for all we know the fabrial may surpress only some Surges. The Fused still can teleport.

Making that assumption, how do you explain that he fell to his death? And that he did not use Progession on himself when severely wounded? Or that Szeth did survive the fight for that matter?

Likely, but not the only explanation. Given that this is Nazh, he may have been using Siverlight technology.

We'd do a press release (I am sure there are prerecorded versions of releases to be made in the case of the death of a prime minister, president or monarch). The Alethi are in an occupied country with a government in exile who have just lost their king. There is also diplomacy to consider. You need to say something. Somebody - I guess Navani, it is the last thing she can do for her son - will have to compose some sort of eulogy. How do they spin it? A valiant king's last stand to be felled by a traitors knife while sheltering his son with his own body? Do they put the blame on Aesudan? Elhokar facing overwhelming odds in going against an Unmade with only a few heroes and a Blade in hand and gloss over her involvement to not cause a rift with her house? It looks kind of embarrassing to me that you have to explain away that a king dies having to storm his own home. What did they say?

Yes. A Honor blade if he is carrying it. You do guard that and not risk it without very good reason. Why did he not fight with his side earlier? I am afraid it is far likelier that he actually does surrender. It would not be a personal interest in Kaladin. It would be an interest in somebody whom his side has leverage over in Urithiru. Getting a message to a Windrunner is comparatively easy. They cannot kill somebody under a flag of parlay. Odium for sure has a way to get messages to Urithiru. Malata opening the oath gate at exactly the right time shows that. You kill him. As soon as somebody with assets as Vyre (Moash) carried becomes dubious in his loyalty or obediance, he is becoming a liability. You get rid of him. That is the problem. Unlimited, for practical purposes, possibilities. But the Fused also face that possibility. This operation seems to depend on many unpredictable events. Lift for example might have entered the cellar. Long supply lines do odd things to economics. Especially on a world where chull carts are the best means of land transport. A mother, sister and uncle not asking details on how their son (brother, nephew) died? Especially if they have the professional task of making him look good and heroic in a eulogy? While caring for his son who will one day ask how his father died? When having a professional duty to find out how the enemy defeated a Shardbearer? Now that is a question a lawyer would love. You could argue that he has not disarmed himself. They certainly can put him on trial anfor d find him guilty of treason. He joined the other side in a war and killed his king. If they want his head, they can have it, looking prim and proper doing so. A year has passed. For all we know Moash's hobby is slowly torturing to death all lighteyes who worked in the prison his grandparents died or worked in law enforcement and the judiciary. Odium would like that, I am sure.

Death penalty - just shooting somebody like Miles Hundredlives is a waste Suicide - leaving your abilities to your heirs - in fact a little bit of yourself

The winds are specifically not blowing while his Nahel bond is inactive. Why not just assume that his bondage began earlier and that Adhesion has more uses than sticking chairs and pebbles to walls?

It looks to me that way, too. Yet Kaladin is not an idiot. Why would it not look that way to him? So how can Moash (or whoever is wearing his disguise) hope to be taken to Urithiru? In fact given what he did to Elhokar, how can he hope not to be executed? Kaladin may have a problem with that, but Dalinar, Navani or Jasnah?

How do you read this that the Stormfather is new? It looks to me like Honor modified him.

It seems that a Fused stays in the form their host had assumed. So the spren seems to stay in the gem heart. That raises a question. What happens if a Fused takes over a Regal? Do the abilities combine?

Then we will learn how good an actor that Fused is. But it opens up the same question. What is worth the presumable death of two Fused and the loss of a Shard Blade? Well, unless Kaladin straight up kills him, they will leave that basement. After that, how do you imprison him? Yelig-Nar is kind of unlikely to go onto an extended vacation cruise right now. He will be back. Well, strictly yes. In practice, no. That would be beyond their level. And Odium has to keep his word, as Kaladin must know by now, sitting in Dalinar's briefing sessions as senior Windrunner. Why do they let him go, especially with a Blade? Well, it seems like we are entering the realm of speculation. The problem is that this is unbound a solution space. For example: There is a plan within the plan. An Illumination Fused and a Transportatio Fused are sacrificed to get the true double agent into Urithiru: Laral has turned bad and swallowed Yelig-Nar. She will start the slaughter with Kaladin in his bed. That is the true reason Roshone had to be finished off. Right If you want real decadence, go for a Soulcast house. Why has this Fused horns?