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Does Brandon Sanderson not understand religious jargon, or what?
bmcclure7 replied to bmcclure7's topic in Cosmere Discussion
1. A Hindu can only be considered heretic by other Hindus. A Christian never considered a Hindu a heretic. A Muslim never consider a Hindu a heretic. It’s not what that word means. 2. Is there any other use for god except in a religious sense? Unless you’re suggesting that she using some sort of hyperbole? Or that she’s using it in a more broad sense to describe any spiritual being as the ancient sometimes used to use it? -
Does Brandon Sanderson not understand religious jargon, or what?
bmcclure7 replied to bmcclure7's topic in Cosmere Discussion
You’re right polytheist is probably the wrong word but certainly not an atheist and atheist is not someone that doesn’t worship gods but someone that doesn’t believe in gods. If she doesn’t fit our definitions for these words, that is surely something else is she not? That’s like saying that it’s fine for the sheep to be hairless by bipedal carnivores because it simply using a different definition of sheep. -
Does Brandon Sanderson not understand religious jargon, or what?
bmcclure7 replied to bmcclure7's topic in Cosmere Discussion
This was a good answer, but for all the wrong reasons is mainly you highlight your own ignorance of these terms, which I guess seeing that I should not be so hard on Brandon himself. 1.”Jasnah specifically spoke against Vorin teachings, highlighting some of those beliefs as wrong. She didn't just not believe the orthodoxy, nor did she just remove herself from the religion, she said that individual beliefs and traditions were wrong. That's heresy. “ By this logic, a Hindu is a heretic. She’s not a heretic. She’s not a member of the religion. She disbelief’s it if she was claiming to be a vorin and then says that there is no God then yes she would be a heretic. But she does not. 2.“Jasnah is an agnostic: Jasnah is a deist: “ now I think you’re confused you cannot be an atheist agnostic and a deist all at once make up your mind. She has to be one of them, but she cannot be all 3 “4. Jasnah may use terms like "gods" to indicate something other than divine-creator-ruler-source of morality.” This is why you show your own ignorance. Most gods worship and believed by pagans will not be described as any of these things Zeus in the source of nor a divine creator. He is I suppose a divine ruler, but so is retribution. As I said, not believing in a single divine creator, makes her a polytheist not at atheist. -
Does Brandon Sanderson not understand religious jargon, or what?
bmcclure7 replied to bmcclure7's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Orthodox of the religion your a part of if you an Atheist you are clearly not part of the religion -
Does Brandon Sanderson not understand religious jargon, or what?
bmcclure7 replied to bmcclure7's topic in Cosmere Discussion
You’re mistaking it pagan for heretic. Heretic implies a person is or at least claims to be a member of the religion, but does not follow the proper doctrine. An atheist by definition cannot be a heretic. Clearly, I’m being too hard on Brandon Sanderson, as it appears that the proper meaning of heretic seems to be unknown by others -
The answer is neither the intent of these shards are too well aligned I think they both were not together against their vessel
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Jasnah is introduced to us as a heretic because she is an atheist, but last I checked atheism is not heresy. Calling her heretic is like calling Hindu heretics. She should be referred to as either just a heathen or since she keeps her safe hand covered and keeps other religious practices an apostate Then there’s the reveal in wind and truth that she does believe in gods just not in an old powerful all loving God supreme God. But if that makes her an atheist invite definition, most polytheist are atheist. What do you think? Should we get Brandon Sanderson dictionary for his birthday with all the religious terms highlighted?
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If you miss the word creation and I hearing about this for the first time feel free to join anyway The character creation The original concept The world we have created https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1a-tg6k6Ls8DpLdzFX0ELacX2qp7edpoFZ2Cz8WUd6vo/mobilebasic?pli=1#heading=h.ykgf1fytcf9p @IcedOutPenguin. @CoderDrag0n8 @Lord Ruler Sylphrena @Through The Living Glass @Lopens Tenth Cousin @SpiritOfWrath @TheBestTruthwatcher Anyone else who wants to play Prologue: excerpt taken from a translation of the hymn of beginnings In the Beginning was Indulgence and possessed God and Indulgence was God. He looked upon the Earth and saw that it was empty and dry. And Indulgence said “Let the Waters fill the earth and Let the Earth bring forth Life. And it was so Indulgence Named the Earth Arvus. And Indulgence Named himself Lord of Arvus And it was so. Indulgence Ruled Magnanimous and with Great Splendor. Then came The Great Other, the corrupter of all. He came slowly and with Great Stealth. And Indulgence Saw not. He touched all that was Indulgence and all that He touched became like him. And Indulgence was wrath. His face was red with fury. ”How dare you take what is MINE” And across in might, our Lord Lifted his fist. then came the Third. The one of Shining and pride. He came not as the Other but with Boldness and much arrogance. With a Great voice he did give challenge. With a conceited face he did demand a confrontation. Indulgence drew back not out of fear but wisdom . For why fight your enemies when you can get them to fight each other? And Our Lord did plot.
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I’m a little busy right now, but I’ll see about making one later today.
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I guess that would make what I posted the prelude
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Ok well some one has to start @IcedOutPenguin@bmcclure7@Lord Ruler Sylphrena@Through The Living Glass@Lopens Tenth Cousin@SpiritOfWrath@TheBestTruthwatcher@Argenti@Hoid Slayer@Entr0pic who will go first
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How do you feel about inter-species…
bmcclure7 replied to christianrapper's topic in Cosmere Discussion
1. Romantic relationships typically have both Eros and agape love so it’s important to distinguish which one you’re talking about or if you’re talking about both. 2. Case in point you mentioned earlier in this comment that we were talking about Eros love. But then said that the core of love is charity which is Only true for agape love . Hence why you could have emotional love (Eros love) without having charity since they are similar, but nonetheless different loves . 3. Honestly, I wasn’t really making a point just asking you to elaborate more. And clarify some things. -
You’ve already made the character make your first move. Tell us where the Shapeshifter is And what he’s doing
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Well, who wants to make the first post I’ve already made the prologue who will take the first step
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How do you feel about inter-species…
bmcclure7 replied to christianrapper's topic in Cosmere Discussion
One and two are your personal preference 1. Isn’t that what we’re talking about our personal preferences? Is it just me or am I getting this wrong? 2. Well, this is going beyond the reach of this discussion talking about morality but personally, I would consider it morally wrong to have sex with a dog regardless of its intelligence. 3. It’s not just a matter of having children, though that is a problem me personally I justify having sex with other species by picturing them as just funny looking humans which is easy to do if they can be produced with humans but kind of hard if they can’t. So I personally wouldn’t have sex with a species who was so different genetic on a genetic level that reproduction of any kind was impossible -
How do you feel about inter-species…
bmcclure7 replied to christianrapper's topic in Cosmere Discussion
I’m very interesting and insightful. I do have some thoughts. 1. It’s important here to distinguish between Eros love and Agape Love. 2. “ A relationship needs to be about more than just being "in love" to be good” a very interesting point could you elaborate? 3. no man is an island. Your relationships matter not just to you but to the people around you. Your relationships impact the people around you and the people who come after you. Very true and even more so for a society like the alethy where politics and family are often connected. 4. being in love" as the be-all-end-all of a romantic relationship, and I do not agree. A relationship needs to be about more than just being "in love" to be good. Through there definitely can be other concerns other than just being in love. Well I can’t say this is the way for everyone been my experience. It’s definitely very easy to fall in love far from the last step. It’s really one of the first steps. I can’t speak for everyone, but personally, I would add a few more points to that I’ve seem to be more picky than this particular character who created this test. 1. Doesn’t have a human face. (I can’t speak for everyone, but I’m not sleeping with something that doesn’t have lips or has a snout. 2. Does it have human primary and secondary genitalia? 3. Is it reproductive? To the two of us reproduce together (an important thing to consider, especially if you’re considering a long-term relationship) -
How do you feel about inter-species…
bmcclure7 replied to christianrapper's topic in Cosmere Discussion
Harkness Test? -
A devotion and dominion shard be quite powerful. I could actually see that happening in the future a third bi shard
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There is no hurry you can start when ever you like
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Prologue: excerpt taken from a translation of the hymn of beginnings In the Beginning was Indulgence and possessed God and Indulgence was God. He looked upon the Earth and saw that it was empty and dry. And Indulgence said “Let the Waters fill the earth and Let the Earth bring forth Life. And it was so Indulgence Named the Earth Arvus. And Indulgence Named himself Lord of Arvus And it was so. Indulgence Ruled Magnanimous and with Great Splendor. Then came The Great Other, the corrupter of all. He came slowly and with Great Stealth. And Indulgence Saw not. He touched all that was Indulgence and all that He touched became like him. And Indulgence was wrath. His face was red with fury. ”How dare you take what is MINE” And across in might, our Lord Lifted his fist. then came the Third. The one of Shining and pride. He came not as the Other but with Boldness and much arrogance. With a Great voice he did give challenge. With a conceited face he did demand a confrontation. Indulgence drew back not out of fear but wisdom . For why fight your enemies when you can get them to fight each other? And Our Lord did plot.
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Conflict between the three shards I actually should post the prologue I created with in the RP. Give me one moment.
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You can find the Google Docs in the main RP page or you can follow this link https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1a-tg6k6Ls8DpLdzFX0ELacX2qp7edpoFZ2Cz8WUd6vo/mobilebasic?pli=1#heading=h.ykgf1fytcf9p
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Depends if you wanna start in your own civilization that’s fine if you want to start in an another player story you’ll need to work out more details on your character. I see the problem. I’m making a new post for people who want characters to interact together.
