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Lift talks a lot throughout the interlude how she "bound [Wyndle] with words." I had just assumed that she's said the Second Ideal out loud long ago, and what we saw was her calling them to mind, reminding herself that she's a better person only because she does this thing.

Yes. Silence is secretly the current chairman of the 17th Shard.

Dude, it's a typo, that's all I was saying. Obviously this was intended to be a spoken line, and it got missed in the re-writes. I was pointing it out like an easter egg. Slow your roll, Kurk, there's no need to jump down my throat. And for the record, "everything from Zane's perspective is a fever dream and probably a lie" is not a "plausible alternative".

Not necessarily. Maybe the re-write itself costs energy, so the extra "power" you get goes to eliminating the first power so it can give you the second. Perhaps a second burn is significantly less efficient than the first, explaining why you get reduced efficacy from multiple burns.

No, you cannot. =D j/k

...So do we just take nothing from his POV as fact? Yes, but that same voice took credit at the end for telling him to kill everyone, when he told Zane, "of course I never told you to kill her; I need her."

Except it didn't say, "He muttered," it said, "he thought."

Which is odd cuz there's a chapter in Well of Ascension where Ruin clearly and obviously reads Zane's mind. What's odd is, Zane is sitting down at dinner with his father, and has shown no problem talking out loud to Ruin in front of his dad, so logically there's no reason Zane wouldn't have said his thought out loud, yet he didn't, and Ruin still answered. Not in the way Tanavast was just sorta talking and Dalinar assumed it was the answer to his question. "He beat you as a child!" It made me stronger, Zane thought. "Then use that strength to kill him!" It strains credulity to assume that Ruin simply thought those two sentences happened to go together, and that they simply work better if we as the omniscient observers know what Zane was thinking.

I had assumed the guy at the end was her next bounty.

My wraithzilla is actually a herd a mistwraiths, each with a single iron spike (not enough for sentience) all trained to work in concert, inhabiting a massive, scorpion-looking exoskeleton. Each segment of metal armor has a bar inside the mistwraiths are trained to form around, so the entire thing is allomancy-proof. Ridden by a mad scientist.

Nitpick: From Chapter 39 (HoA) when TenSoon is inserting the Blessing of Potency he stole from OreSuer. Interesting quote from the Chapter 40 epigraph, talking about creating koloss. Which is... odd. I get the sense that any pair of "human attribute" spikes will interact with each other in your spiritweb, giving an effect very slightly different from just 1 spike + 1 spike. Yet, each spike twists your human form. So three spikes, then, are technically 1 "Blessing" plus 1 normal spike, and twists your body in a nearly koloss way. I'd suspect the whole skin thing doesn't happen until the fourth spike is in. Also, and this is just gut, I think that at 3 spikes you might technically still survive, but you wouldn't be a useful form. You'd be strong, but I suspect it's like radio station frequencies. One station is human. You can turn the dial slightly, and you'll be at the "human with some fuzz" station. A bit more and it's just static. More, and you can start to hear the next station coming through.... and with the fourth spike, they land in a clear station. The Koloss station. At 3 spikes, I see a being of really powerful muscles whose body isn't built right, you couldn't really move right without breaking your own bones. Sidenote: Presumably, just sticking someone with four Tin spikes prolly wouldn't work to make a sensory koloss, or Rashek would have managed that by now.

In case anyone cares, for brevity's sake, from now on my pronoun for Endowment is "she". I realize that this isn't confirmed, but I'm not going to type "he/she" every time, and I'm not going to respond when people call me out on it. My gut reaction is that she sounded like a she. If I'm wrong, I'll change it when it's confirmed.

Could it be a power of hemalurgy, perhaps?

Thank you for the reminder of what I frequently forget; in theory, one can be a Surgebinder without being a Radiant. Too often, I personally conflate the two. And you're right, Shallan isn't terribly honest, she seems to attract the Cryptics because they are attracted to people who hold great secrets that no one else knows. Taravagian certainly fits that bill.

1. A lot of people think that's Ishar. I've seen a lot of debate, and very little solid evidence concerning him one way or the other. If each book will keep flashing back to that night, perhaps we'll learn a lot more... eventually. 2. Shalash is female. It's widely believed that she's Baxil's "Mistress", the woman who runs around defacing art across the world (for example, in the Lift interlude, one Herald's face is scratched out on the wall; it's assumed that this is still Shalash's work. 3. The man with a face of lines is prolly a cryptic, the symbol-head that Shallan bonds with. Lord alone knows what the dark cold sun in the black sky is. Braize?

Heh heh, that's not what- ...Neptune's beard, I cannot believe you beat me to it...

Nope, my copy is on my Nook. No fancy things like.. this thing. Wait so... left and right oriented how? The two things I've seen (the surgechart and the silver map) were both oriented wider than tall, so with the map the words are upright and for the chart the larkins are also upright. On the Surgechart, Jezrien is in the upper right (so near the Windrunner symbol) and the Heralds proceed in order clockwise. On the map, Jezrien is in the lower right (so near Natanatan) and the Heralds proceed in order anti-clockwise. Is that how it is with everyone? And we think that's simply a matter of, how it was stuck in the book?

GUYS GUYS GUYS http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121122112712/stormlightarchive/images/1/1f/Silver_Kingdoms.jpg I'm not sure where that map came from or if it's "canon" or whatnot. But it's what I looked at to get my idea of Roshar being symmetric. The Heralds on the border are flipped from the Heralds in the Surgechart. Line symmetry, top-to-bottom. What is up with that? I have no idea. It just astounds me.

Her baby fat long since turned into baby stormlight....

Speaking of cymatics and city symmetry... I never noticed this before, but if you put your thumb over Aimia, Roshar's got something close to point-symmetry. For that matter, it sorta looks like a radar map of a hurricane. Just throwing that out there. Not likely to be the result of natural forces on Earth, sure. Are cymatics a real thing on earth? I feel like Jasnah implied that if it's something that naturally happens with sand on a plate, that natural forces could possibly have shaped them on a grander scale, too. Maybe a big mountain shook down and only the cymatic core was strong enough to survive, or perhaps lava flowed in this pattern before solidifying. Just the theory of someone whose only understanding of geology is that it's "physics slowed with trees on top" -Terry Pratchett. I'm sure someone who took Earth Sciences will correct me before too long. Until then, my general theory is that this is something like the mist-sickness from Mistborn; a clue left behind to indicate something is special. "Hey, humans. This is a dawn-city. Stay here, it's special in ways not readily apparent."

Ah-ha, yes, I was inexact. I do wonder (and this might well affect what happens), what (if anything) were Seons before they got the Splinters inside of them? What would happen if the Splinter were removed? More to the heart-wrenching point, does Ashe need to die for Devotion to be reformed? omigod i'm gonna cry...

Tattoos draw blood. I've personally never heard of, and never had myself, a tattoo "shallow" enough not to draw blood. I don't know if you've ever cut yourself shaving, but you barely have to scratch a human to get to blood. I'll double-check, but I'm fully confident that anything deeper than "painting on top of skin" will draw blood.

Frankly, she looks too ... not-scrawny for someone whose entire point of being is how she's constantly burning way more calories than she takes in. Also I had in my mind that it took place in a warm climate so I wasn't expecting her outerwear to be so bulky. Or for that matter fancy.

Personally I take that quote to mean it's a metalmind, like an earring or a bracer piercing his skin like Rashek's atiumminds. (or whatever they were).

I don't always necro (Return?) but when I do, I double post... ( ... twinpost?) Unlike a spike through the eye or heart, a spike in the side like the Koloss have doesn't seem to be fatal to remove; Spook and Yomen are two cases of people removing a hemalurgic spike, so we know it's not always fatal. If you removed the spike, would a koloss revert back to human the way a Kandra reverts back to a mistwraith? Or would the body not revert, and presumably die, since koloss probably cannot survive their own bodies without the many benefits of enhanced physical attributes?