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source: http://www.theoryland.com/intvsresults.php?kwt='savantism' I think we should take this in consideration here.

Wow, that's a very good approach. I've seen it being suggested somewhere that the Scadrian equivalent of gemstones would be Hemalurgic spikes - and that seems even more well-coined. You people never stop surprising me in the most pleasant way. I'll have some of my own thoughts when I finish browsing through the whole topic EDIT: @up, I think it would, given that WoB on hemalurgy is "it's cosmere universal". The RAFO though could be a hint of this actually going to happen, which is nice. IMHO a good twist would be for forgein metals to steal the attributes connected to the metal's homeworld - like i.e. Roshar's steel stealing a Shardblade instead of physical allomancy. Is there a theory on that already?

That's just the way I think of it until a better explaination is given, not a real theory. I believe that in a world where Honor is one of the Shards ruling, your personality would make you Invested more or less. While it doesn't seem to apply to other Shardworlds, I think it does to Roshar, as there is much more interaction between Shards and humanity than in other books. People feel the Thrill during the fight (of course we can't be sure whether it's a form of Investiture or not, but I think it could be, to some extend), the spren are being attracted to people's personalities and feelings, a special case being Honorspren attracted to people's overall personality and traits, dying men are given insight to other realms, et cetera, et cetera. So it kind of seems to me that such explaination is as good as any. I connect the fact of Rock being able to see Syl to his loathing of fighting. Syl is a Honorspren, and Rock is the second bridgeman after Kaladin to be called honorable (IMHO), as he sticks to his refusal of hurting another human, even though he could just give it up (to not risk the possibility of displeasing other bridgemen). That makes me wonder why Sigzil don't seem to see Syl, so it can also be strongly flawed. We also haven't been given any proof that either Adolin or Dalinar can't see her, i guess my idea strongly depends on this. But as I say, it's as good as any. I just like to explain things to myself while reading. I don't mean to be confusing anyone here. On the other hand, I am convinced that burning tin attunes you to Preservation and Preservation only. Sprensight and mist-sight aren't the same thing, of that I'm deeply convinced.

I'm no expert on Stormlight Archive (haven't finished reading WoK yet, a few pages await), but isn't it the Investiture that allows you to see spren? If so, burning any metal would enable you to see spren to some extend. And about Allomantic tin in particular, I don't think it would make any dfference. The mist-sight is bound exclusively to the bond between the Tineye and Preservation - burning it is not getting you attuned to any Shard, it attunes you to Preservation only, as far as I understand. Tin savants are weird, though, don't know what to think of it. I don't know if it has been discussed, but I like to think that they gain some limited possibility of seeing Investiture, it would kinda match the fact they get their heightened senses from it.

Yeah, I'm aware of that, but come on... It's easier to say that the metalmind stores kilograms of weight, than the mass density or a gravitational force value...

The super-metalmind idea isn't mine, I've stolen it from the forums

The information can't differ in power though. And the data travels through the bus with constant speed. If you tried to press the whole data you have (through some weird medium) to the disk at once, you'd get an errorstorm. And if that was your motherdisk, you'd possibly have to force a format afterwards

I don't think he would. There is Compounding after all, doing that makes you already "overpressured" with Investiture, would that be any different than doing this?

Sorry for the manner, didn't mean to be like this. I'm not speaking natively, I have a bit of problem about seeing how what I write will sound to others. I apologize for sounding the wrong way - I didn't mean to be arrogant. You people have more knowledge on the topic than I do And argh, you kinda got me about what I said about Shards. I didn't realize Devotion was dead at the time. What I had on mind was that Sazed was kind of the only one who is not bound by an Intend, as he keeps his intervention in reason. Like, he is not "obliged" to do anything like other Shards, but keeps his wit and remains a free willed, aware human being. And thank you on correcting me on a few of those things, I blamed Preservation's lack of initiative more on a "non-intervention" policy tied to his Intend than on what it really was. Guess i got carried away in theories. As for the latter, I tend to think of Sazedium as, well, Sazedium - being more of Harmony than of Preservation and Ruin. I mean, if Harmony keeps the two Shards at bay, would they still fight within someone burning the Atium/Lerasium alloy? And from what I remember, burning two metals at the same time is not the same as burning an alloy of both. I guess burning both at the same time would work as you said, but burning the alloy of both would give you the Harmony-related effect. Though, you might be just right - the two could just, kinda, refuse to be alloyed with each other. Or, maybe, refuse to be alloyed before Harmony's Ascension, and would be able to be combined with each as Harmonium after it. It sounds nice, symbolizing the fight between Shards and the end Harmony put to it. Not sure if we have any WoB on this, so I might be wrong about this tho.

That's a reasonable argument Though in physical world, applying an enormous (and i mean enormous) amount of pressure while trying to fill the container would eventually break the container itself - all it takes is to have enough pressure. And the pressure we can get here is only limited by the net amount of the charge the Feruchemist is able to gather in the said bigger metalmind. So what would happen, if the container was to "crash", in the terms of investiture capacity?

I'm pretty sure he would make a few of his friends' faces prettier, if they wished for it. He made Spook mistborn, though it was hardly a necessity - it came in handy in estabilishing the government, but I guess it was more of a "hey kid, you did good, you deserve a little gift". Another thing I've been wondering - what if said Allomantic bronze allowed them to track the Lerasium bead Hoid is carrying around, but that is a worse theory than the main one - wouldn't explain why they got lost on Roshar. There was a "false trail" though. Perhaps he sent the Lerasium somewhere.

I've been wondering about something in Feruchemy lately. It's been said that a metalmind has limited capacity of holding a Feruchemical charge. It's simple to imagine, after storing, let's say, 100 kg of your weight, this certain piece of metal would refuse to gain any more of the charge. But what would happen, if a man was to store a very large amount of said weight into a big metalmind, let's say, one thousand kg, grab a small piece of metal (let's say, with a 100 kg capacity), touch both metalminds in the same time, and then both tap the whole weight from the bigger metalmind at once and try to "force" all of the charge into the smaller one? It could just stop at the 100 kg cap and leave the rest of the weight to the Feruchemist, but... I have a feeling that the bigger the Feruchemical charge is, the more Investiture it bears, and therefore it would have more force when charging into a piece of metal. Or maybe it would even cause some physical changes in the metal, with that sort of power? If a Feruchemist was to force a ridicously massive charge into a small piece of metal, it could have some interesting side effects. I know it's a very vague theory, and I don't have much proof behind this, but hey, a food for thought.

WoB here is strongly unbalanced, as Brandon strongly suggests that Sazed is holding two different Shards, but he still prefers to think of them "as one". But I do remember a few of his quotes where he allows to think of Sazed as having more sentinence than a regular Shard holder. Remember what every other Shard manifests when they communicate with humanity... Ruin was capable of speaking, but absolutely blinded with his Intent - "arr, you will all die from my hand". Preservation's trials of communication were very vague and "shy", as every change he would cause would be against his Intent, so he was kind of like an introvertic kid. The Elantris shard (can't call the name from memory) was only vaguely able to communicate with Raoden, if it ever did, in the pool of water being it's own body. I can be wrong on this though, don't have the book right now. Honor was able to communicate with Delinar clearly, but his Intent was clearly behind this, with Dalinar being one of the most honorable people to speak to, and the fact of communication itself guided by Honor's As for Odium, I guess he is as human as Harmony, but for a completely different reason. Harmony was able to keep his freedom because of the both Intends from Ruin and Preservation nullifying each other. Odium was able to keep sentinence, because he already was a loathful man - let's say that his "human Intend" matched the Intend of the Shard perfectly. So far, we've only seen Harmony being able to speak to humans as clearly and cleverly as he did. So I guess it's safe to assume that he's not blinded by any Intent - he's as witty and smart as he always was. I don't understand your reasoning, could you extend this statement? Because for now, I'm dazed. So Preservation's power is creating (investiture gain), while Harmony's power would preserve (investiture nullifying)?

I think the scar wouldn't be fixed if Demoux didn't wish for it to be. And knowing him, I doubt he would ever want a battle-earned scar he got as a proof of his honor and devotion to ever disappear. Come on, this dude is like a war martyr, except he is still alive and well. If he was to lose both arms fighting for Elend's sake, he wouldn't ever blink. (He would want them back, though, it's kind of hard to serve when the arms are gone.)

I don't think this is right. Harmonium would cause the net amount of investiture to be negative? It's both Preservation and Harmony - making something stable and unchanging would be of Preservation only. My strong bet on Harmonium would be some power of creation. For the sake of the question, I'd like to analize what we know about Harmony for sure. First of all, Harmony is the most powerful of Shards, or at least equally powerful to Odium. Not only he actually holds two shards, because that doesn't neccesairly give him more actual power, which is understandable to those familiar with Shardic theory (talking about the global scale, not Cosmeric scale). He is powerful because of his sentinence - as the only Shard known to us he's not blinded by any intent. He is unique among other Shards because of the sentinent mind behind the power he wields. That would make me believe that his metal is different from the others. It's power would not be raw, I think, it would be much more sophisticated. Second thing is that Harmony is, in fact, a scientist. As a Shard, I guess his power would be focused more on development, open-mindedness and understanding. So I think of Harmonium as being able to give one knowledge, perhaps. Or some greater mindfulness. Something along the lines of an insta-Zen metal. And for Harmonium being a metalmind, I'm pretty convinced it would act as an universal metalmind of increased capacity. Here, have this bead, you can store anything you want in here. Perhaps, it would even act as a shared metalmind, allowing every Feruchemist to store inside.