Elandera

5-2 Ark.

Now Ark leads, 4-2

That's 3 on Alv, with El's vote. Now seriously. Yell at me if I post or you see me lurking. I need to sleep. Edit: it's nice to see so many people on, but dang. The ninjas are out of control

I switched because you hadn't posted and I am about to get off for the night. It didn't seem anyone else was going to join, so I opted to move rather that have a 4-way tie. Now that you have posted, Shqueeves Alvron That's it for me tonight. Goodnight.

It would be just one now. I moved mine to Shqueeves, proposing an inactive lynch over ones I feel would end poorly and get rid of discussion drivers.

It would be nice, but ties end with all arrested, unfortunately. Alv. New proposal. We go for the inactive lynch, based on Fura's list. Especially since none of us can seem to agree on a viable target. Shqueeves

Or leave it at a tie that would make Alv proud. EDIT: I'm pretty sure it's tied between Alv, Rae, Fura, and Wilson, at the moment.

Well, I don't like this, but I think it's better than Fura or Rae. Alvron. Fura. Please tell me your cooking up a better target. Of all the people on right now, I trust you most.

Alv has been giving me a bit of a suspicious gut read, but I keep dismissing it because, well, Alv. I always get a bad gut read on him. I don't think I'd want to lynch him just because they're no other candidates, though. Maybe, but not probably.

I'm going to sleep in the next half-hour or so, and I don't like any of the lynches either. Gaea. I haven't had the time I wanted to in order to actually analyse the connections there, and I don't want to waste our last Constable lynch. Not yet, at least. We definitely need to consider it next turn, though. Fura, I'm not voting on you. You read too villagery for me to vote on you, and that's just another wasted lynch, like Rae's would likely end up. I disagree. Rae only has three votes on her, one of which is yours. There are at least three of us online at the moment. We surely can come up with a better target than Rae. What is your reasoning there, anyways?

This is a very, very good point. Also, I would rather lynch a Constable, so we can stop debating every cycle if we will or won't. It's taking a lot of focus away from analysis on players, which I think the elims would be very content to maintain. So far, the best evidence we have is a vote removed from Gaea C1 for no apparent reason. She was close enough to have been within range of vote manipulation killing her instead. That tells me there was at least someone who didn't want her dead. Thus, it's probably the best lead we'll ever get for which Constable is corrupt. I still can't shake my suspicion of you. Nothing you're saying is helping overall. You support a Rae lynch, but don't. Your numbers on elim team size seem a bit like you're overstating your knowledge (that's not the best way to phrase what I'm trying to say, but I can't think of a better way). And you keep seeming like you're trying to ignore the Constables all together. One reason I see for trying to get rid of the constable is to free us from the constraints of having to have all or very few votes on someone to be reasonably sure of their alignment. Getting everyone on board is difficult without it being an elim revealed or a mislynch, and too few keeps it comfortably in range for elim manipulation.

I don't agree with the lynch on Rae. So, Gaea. I'll do a bit more research after I get off work into whether Gaea or Wilson is the corrupt constable.

But if there's vote manipulation and the uncorrupted one is lynched, we have a trail to look into. I'm not sure elims would be willing to risk that exposure, when the benefit might not outweigh the loss of another teammate. Is anyone able to put up a vote count? I'll try to get one up soon, if no one else can.

People who have yet to post this turn: @Snipexe, @Lumgol, @RayOfSunshine, @shanerockes, @Young Bard, @STINK Why Snipexe? I'm definitely open to an alternative lynch, especially if it means not killing Doc. I get this. I feel it in my soul. You're not a bad player Doc. Speaking of which, I still don't see the suspicion on him. My read through the early cycles had me putting him in the village category. Timing for posts is not a reason to me, as I've frequently gotten on when I should be sleeping because I'm awake due to RL things.

That's reasonable. I still have a mild suspicion of you, but until we get a scan result, I don't think you're the best target for a lynch.

I'm actually kind of with you on this theory. They've seemed to be pointing fingers a lot at each other this game. @StrikerEZ, is there a particular reason you decided to scan Lum right away with a one-time use item when there wasn't really suspicion on her to begin with? Your reaction seemed a bit much when the general consensus at the end of last turn was that Lum was, in fact, evil. The 75% chance to show correctly seems to have happened, so why would you feel the need to preempt any additional suspicion on yourself? Unless, of course, there's that chance you are also evil. If someone has a ledger, I wouldn't mind a scan on Striker, just to make sure. That response of mine was the moment I knew for sure that Lum was evil. A villager wouldn't have much reason in their final moments to clear a player and cast suspicion on another one, without also trying to defend themselves. Actually, Lum put up a lot less defense than usual when she's targeted for a lynch, which is another reason I suspect a possible planned bus.

Alright, I'm going to sleep now, so I will be leaving my vote off entirely, so we still have a reasonable percentage of a correct flip for Lum, and I don't risk messing anything up once vote manip gets involved.

This is a hot mess

Striker(2): Fifth, Lum Lum(4): Drake, Devotary, Ray, RaeSnip(1): HaelGaea(1): Rae

Anyone with 3 4 boxings. EDIT: Forgot to look at the first post, with changing boxing values.

We had two vote manipulations in circulation last turn. It's fully plausible that if votes remain as they are, Lum would be saved, and yourself and Snip would be tied.

Vote Count: Striker(2): Fifth, Lum Lum(4): Drake, Devotary, Ray, RaeSnip(2): Alv, HaelArk(1): SnipGaea(1): Rae I'm leaning toward piling on all the votes, just to avoid vote manipulation. EDIT: Changed numbers, since I was ninja'd by Striker.

This seems mildly suspicious to me. His initial response seemed to be ignoring 90% of the discussion in the thread for the day. While I understand that might be from lack of time/initial reaction to what's happening, this seems off. I am willing to trust the scan on Lum. However, I would like the person who did the scanning come forward, since you wouldn't be able to do it again anyway. You wouldn't really be a target. If you don't come forward, I'd be more apt to think it was a set-up on Lum. If we need more votes on Lum, I'll gladly place it. I'm a bit out of sync here, since I'm in middle of a Starfinder game. I'll check in before the game ends though. I do not like this. At all. It very much feels like an attempt to frame either myself or Alv when she dies and flips corrupt. This very much makes me want to vote on her, but as I said, I'll wait to make sure percentages are correct.

It would either be through clues in the write-ups, or like you said, through lynching people who've voted on/argued for Constables. This is a very good point as well. However, I still don't see much in regards to a reason to lynch him other than a few off posts. I'd rather do a search on him for that, than a lynch. Especially since villagers tend to have more poorly-worded posts than elims.

I see this as more reason to lynch Lumgol. While he cast suspicion on her, he never actually placed a vote on those. That can be a common distancing tactic. And with Randuir specifically, I'm trying not to let his reads influence my reads. He's been good at distancing in the past (again, see the Princess Bride game).