AonEne

I thought we’d had non-BS stuff before?

No to the guess, yes to the multiple people.

Cool with me. I can make the thread if people agree?

*nukes Shinovar for the heck of it* Good game any ideas for the next one?

Heal Iri, hurt Shinovar Iri - 2 Shinovar - 2

Hurt Shinovar, heal Rira Iri - 1 Rira - 3 Shinovar - 4

Hurt Shinovar, heal Rira Iri - 1 Rira - 5 Shinovar - 6

Hurt Shinovar, heal Rira Iri - 1 Rira - 6 Shinovar - 7

*reluctantly eats the chocolate, because who can resist chocolate*

That same someone was being held prisoner in this place by others.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE ON MY SIDE Hurt Shinovar, heal Rira Iri - 1 Rira - 7 Shinovar - 8

I still don’t think the salute was glorying in it at all. The only descriptor attached was “quietly”. Not that he did it while smirking or even smiling, or that he called attention to it, just that he did it - in a word that’s associated with respect. And then that was all. (Edit: I included that bit about Kaladin down below because it supports the theory that he wasn’t taunting him. If he had been, I imagine he’d have taken pride in the betrayal, but Moash just wanted to forget it. He felt bad.) I looked through all his later chapters and didn’t find a single instance of him saying that. What I did find was this:

No one here has gotten mad at anyone for disliking Moash. Some of us have gotten annoyed at the degree his hate has reached, and how that affects the culture around him, but that’s it as far as I’ve seen. Trav didn’t say that was the only option; they provided it as one of multiple options within the context of their post. And honestly, it’s a very valid option. Anyone who’s ever had an unpopular opinion can attest to the fact that fandoms can be hard to express those opinions in, especially if it’s an opinion most people don’t hold. 17S is fantastic, one of the best fandoms out there, but it’s not perfect. I can completely see some people going along with the trend, hoping to ride it out or whatever because they don’t want to be harassed for their preferences. Same goes for going along with the trend because it’s a trend. I mean, take the two things most memed about in my experience: Stick and Moash. I highly doubt either would be as big as it is today if at least a good chunk of people hadn’t looked at it and thought, Huh, this is a shiny, funny, cool joke in the Sanderfandom that people will laugh at and relate to and jumped on the bandwagon for that reason at first. (And unfortunately, some would do it for the upvotes.) Not even necessarily a bad thing in that case, just how fandom culture works. We also haven’t been disregarding or disrespecting anyone that I’ve seen, discussion here has generally been pretty inclusive.

I agree with that - though first they’d need to learn what he did, and Kaladin would need to stop keeping it from them. I get why he’s doing it - it can be hard to talk about betrayal - but this is their business too, and they deserve to know.

I guess I can see where you’re getting it from, I just don’t think it fits Moash’s character. He cared about and respected Kal even after splitting up with Bridge Four; I can’t see him taunting Kaladin. Lol okay! The best part is you’re gay and I’m already in a relationship And yes, all of what you guys just said!

He didn’t kick him, he just shoved him aside. We don’t even know if it was a hard shove. I highly doubt that was his intention. “Screw you” makes no sense for Moash to say to Kaladin; it would be pretty out-of-character. I’ve heard it said (maybe in this thread) that it was more like he was thanking Kaladin for the training that helped him do this, which fits him and the scene much better, as well as Kaladin’s character development in the moment (“it’s all my fault”). That’s your opinion. Personally I find all death to be impactful. *shrugs* Thanks, Honorless! And yeah, I agree with what you just said. (Off-topic, but do you have a nickname for your username? ‘Honorless’ feels so formal. Also I just typoed it twice )

I’ve never seen any evidence of that. He seemed more tired and dead inside after doing it, definitely never gloried in it - which was the whole point of his arc. It’s hard to glory in revenge. I will never understand why people hate that salute so much and especially why it made killing Elhokar even worse. Also gonna hard disagree there. It’s a matter of opinion, but I prefer The Girl Who Stood Up. (I think - there are other great candidates. Oathbringer had a lot of great chapters)

Thanks! Okay, that's four minutes. Edit: I'm gonna try to do a test one on YouTube, mostly to learn how to stream, but also if anyone wants to come along please do and we can test that too! Never mind, we're trying this now, been having technical difficulties. I don't think I like this, personally, but we'll see if it works. Edit the third - that idea was bad nvm I hereby pronounce this a massive failure. I'll try the YT streaming again sometime. Is there a way to share your screen? There has to be, I've seen people do it before...

v *a little nonsense later* Every time I reread this PM, I cringe at everything I say and die of laughter at half of everything else...anyway, here's that. I think it was referenced a few more times in between other stuff. True that, which is why they're good questions

I RISE FROM THE DEPTHS TO SAY Heal Aimia, hurt Herdaz Iri - 10 Rira - 10 Herdaz - 3 Aimia - 9 Shinovar - 10

Oh my gosh, did it say that to you? Oof I'm sorry.

I actually didn't know about that WOB, that's really cool! But no, none of those.

I'm just gonna steal this and quote you, is that okay? Can I do that? (Idk maybe but it's a weird I wholeheartedly approve of) (Also I can add you to the Ene Fan Club if you want) (It's a thing) ^^^^^^^^^^ *uses X-ray vision and sees below the paper, then stamps it with a soulstamp making it look like beauty incarnate and sends it back*