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This is from the end of the last chapter. I think it is pretty clear that he wants Dalinar to unite the people and refound the Knights Radiants. He also hints that they have small chance to win. This is not to say that the Knights Radiant aren't bound up closer to the shards of Honor than we assume, and by reforging the Knights Radiant it could unite Honor again. I don't think it is likely however

Your arguments are valid and I have no hard evidence against them . A few points though. I believe Sadeas does ask Dalinar about the thrill, but this would also be from Dalinar's viewpoint, so you could assume that it is his perspective capitalizing it. My opinion is that capitalized words such as Memory and Thrill are indicative of a bigger picture from Brandon, rather than assumptions on the character's part.

Earth! Fire! Wind! Water! Heart! Let our powers combine . . . . Oh wait, wrong forum....

He really doesn't know enough to be any kind of world hopper or anything at this point. That doesn't mean that he couldn't become one later, but that is all speculation. As for how someone becomes a world hopper, we know that Hoid does it by accessing Shadesmar, but we know that it is dangerous to access the cognitive realm from Sel (where Galladon is from), so there are likely other methods of world hopping.

I agree that he is just limiting what he is revealing to us, but as a point of note, there is nothing that specifically indicates that this is from Wit's point of view. It suggests that it might be from his POV, but it never shows what he is thinking. It could be from the POV of an astute outside observer

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whether or not thrill is closely linked to the Thrill, Szeth is also a shardbearer and could easily fit into my theory.

If this is the case then: 1. Why do we never see Kaladin experience the Thrill? He sometimes has mixed feelings about killing people, but it never seems to dampen his skill and he is always focused on protecting his own. Dalinar's ability to keep his head in the game and fight well is linked with the thrill except for those times we see him defend someone else (Elhokar and Sadeas) 2. Why is the Thrill capitalized?

The horneaters regard warriors as lower than farmers as well, but it is a little different. Rock explained that the first son is always a farmer, the second always a craftsman, then the third (or was it fourth?) is the warrior. Rock always said fighting was beneath him.

This may not qualify as crazy, but I have a penchant and a good ability for memorization. As an example, the last week of 8th grade I got really bored and decided to start memorizing digits of pi just for the heck of it. About 5 days later and 100 digits in I decided to give up. That was ten years ago and I can still recite 25 digits at speed without pause and I can visualize a few of the other sequences.

This is the only thing I could find relating to the issue aside from what Joe ST found, but the two combined suggest that Hoid took the bead of Lerasium, as he is the only one who had access to the Well aside from the Lord Ruler before the bead could have been discovered.

Nalthis - Idris appeals to me more, I like a sedate lifestyle and T'Telir just sounds too volatile. Roshar - The Purelake is tempting, as it is different, but peaceful. Kharbranth and Szeth's homeland among other sound interesting too (Alethkar is too warriorlike for me to want to live there) Sel - The homeland of a certain forger... Scadrial - Elendel, right after the events of HoA if I had a choice.

I think you would have to brainwash the cognitive aspect of his body . . . . This might be a little more challenging than brainwashing his mind.

Makes sense to me. It is a much more elegant answer than any of the alternatives. My thinking about the cognitive aspects of objects stemming from TES went more in the direction of time bubbles, but I already mentioned that on the TES forum

Wanted to give a little bump to let you guys know I revised my original post and added spoiler tags with my conclusions to each question, as well a few extra questions that came out of certain topic discussions. Discuss!

My theory is that is only shardbearers that experience the thrill. As far as I can recall, only three people reference the thrill, and all three have shardplate (two have blades). It also states that it is seldom talked of, which could easily lead to misconceptions about who experiences it. I kind of had the feeling that the Thrill was as much of a taboo subject to talk about as sex was 50 or 100 years ago. This would fall more closely into line with Syl's reaction to the shardblade. It may be that we see a diminishing or absence of the Thrill in Dalinar in book two. Isn't there another part where Dalinar says this is only in the context of a leader serving his people? My memory is that the text never really outright said that darkeyes were superior, just that people misinterpreted it that way.

My thinking is that the boundaries and maps represented in Forgery and AonDor is based on ancient political borders that existed when the systems were first created, as opposed the the current ones. I also think that assuming each nationality should get its own magic system is being a bit unilateral. It seams logical to me that current day races would not all have their own magic systems. Some of these races may not have existed originally. Alternitavely these "powers" weren't necessarily distributed evenly to begin with. On a completely different topic. Shai's lecture on how an object regards itself (separately or as a part of a whole based on how long it has been that way, ie the pieces of the desk regarding themselves as just the desk). Made me think of a quote from Brandon about time bumbles during his Q&A a couple weeks ago. He was saying that how an object moves in and out of a time bubble depends on how it views itself. Anyway, detailed theorizing should probably be reserved until the embargo on TES is lifted .

I agree that the pacing was just right, particularly in compared to Legion. When I finished Legion I didn't think I had actually finished it and kept looking for the other half... The details of Forgery were amazing. The only other systems that contain near the same amount of possible detail are AonDor and possibly soulcasting, and we don't have as much detail (at least in some areas) on those. DO IT. *ahem* Sorry, that was my compulsive need to share good stories coming through... Joss Whedon is one of my favorite storytellers behing Brandon Sanderson.

I would take the 10 billion, then finance Brandon Sanderson to assure that we have movies/tv series/mini series for each Cosmere book. Talk about one of the farthest spanning franchises . . .

This is a very insightful post. It made me think of two things that back up your hypothesis. The first is in the first interlude (or prelude or whatever it is) when Szeth first starts fighting Gavilar. He talks about the advantages and disadvantages of shardplate and says that his abilities (surgebinding) would interfere with the shardplate. I always thought that this was odd since we see Knights Radiant using shardplate and surgebinding together in Dalinar's flashbacks. Edit: Didn't notice that you had brought this up... It could be that shardplate was also affected by this "change" and that this change affects its function (it also may have to do with the fact that they both are powered by stormlight). The other possibility though is that it may be Szeth's surgebinding that is different and therefore interferes (he doesn't seem to have a spren etc). The second thing popped into my head as I was reading your post. We see the Thrill discussed by Dalinar. I'm not sure, but I don't think the book references anyone other than a shardbearer having this Thrill. I also wish I knew whether or not it is supposed to be capitalized for sure, as that would have some bearing. It could be that the Thrill is something that is connected to shardblades, or perhaps both sharblades and shardplate. This would fall very neatly along the lines that you were talking about.

This is what I assumed when I finished HoA (maybe not on the first read through, but at least this time ). Preservation's strength was always to be able to think one step (or many) ahead of Ruin. He did the prophesies, the mists snapping, investing more of himself in humanity, and imprisoning Ruin. Ruin's strength was to corrupt Preservation's plans, but it seems he wasn't able to anticipate all of them. It is not too much of a stretch to assume that Preservation was able to pick Vin as a false HoA to mislead Ruin (after all, he did pick sazed out with the prophesies). Maybe he picked Rashek out too?

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Well there goes my entire theory. I should have been a bit more thorough in my research before I posted. I'm going to just sum up things a bit, along with making a few assumptions from this, just to make sure I get it. The orbit and axial tilt of Scadrial is virtually the same as Earth. The axial north pole is located in Terris and the magnetic north pole is located at the WoA in Luthadel, the second of these attracting a good portion of the ash and giving it extra cover from the sun which allows for the next point. Luthadel is located in what would be earths temporate region (around the same latitude as Europe). This latitude is much hotter on Scadrial, but the magnetic pole and the ash makes up for that. This gives Luthadel a normal day/night and seasonal cycle. The only real question remaining is whether the population at the south pole is located at the axial south pole for the decreased sunlight and therefore temperature, or at the magnetic south pole because enough ash attracted there to be habitable (and for that matter, does the south magnetic pole correspond directly with the WoA). But that question is better left until the second mistborn trilogy. I'm going to hold of on that edit of the first post for a while...

Maybe it is because of the browser i am using (internet explorer on this computer), but Multiquote does the exact same thing as hitting reply does. We know this is not, or at least very likely not the case because of two reasons. The first is a quote from Brandon: This says to me that the final empire is set on the axial north pole. The other piece of information is a logical one. We know from Brandons statements (not going to look up the quote atm, but it is well accepted), that the final empire exists on one pole of the the planet, and that there is another group of people on the opposite pole. It has not been confirmed whether he was talking about the magnetic or axial poles, but think about it. What reason would the two populations be centered on the magnetic poles? The only thing i can think of is that maybe it was an arbitrary decision by Rashek. But then consider the logic of them being located on the axial poles. Rashek moves Scadrial too close to the sun to burn off the mists, and all of a sudden the world starts to burn. He panics, seeing everyone he is trying to save dying. So he moves the population of the planet to the coldest place there is, on the axial poles. But this isn't enough, there isn't enough room, and it still isn't cool enough. So he creates the ashmounts which send him into reactively altering the world to be able to survive the ashes. Thanks spacemonkey for this reference. That helps clear it up. The problem with this scenario is that it circumvents the quandry I have, which is the interaction of mass and power, or alternatively, the effect that two unequal powers (not mass) have on each other. Your scenario has an imbalance in the reaction because the truck weighs more (and also happens to have more power because of that weight). Because of the increased mass, it transmits more power (or force) and is not pushed back as far because of its increased mass. I'm going to do an edit pretty soon here of my original post to provide answers, or theoretical answers to my questions, and possibly add follow up questions to certain topics. One question though, how do I do spoiler tags? Edit: Nevermind, figured out how to do it.

Wanted to let you know that I love these featured theory articles. I did have one point I disagreed with. It seems that the physical aspect of AonDor is the physical land and location itself. All of the Aons have model the land itself, and the farthest you get from Elantris, the less effective AonDor is. This means that the physical location of Elantris and the area around it is essential (even if the range is considerable farther than that area). That would then free the drawn Aons themselves to be the Cognitive aspect. The detail required to fashion the exact effect you want reminds me of the cognitive aspect of Awakening. One might argue that drawing the Aon is a physical thing, however it seems like you make a similar leap with the commands needing to be spoken. It is merely a way of communicating the cognitive. Not all magic systems can be activated by thought