Ivory Dragonfly

Alright, detailed summary of PM, because we need to move on from this: beagle: messages everyone, says he wants me to trust Flamingo, and that we need to stop the lynch train on them. Expresses high suspicions of the lynch. Flamingo: expresses initial suspicions of rhino and Swan. Says Rhino was untrustworthy from the beginning. Expresses suspicions of Axolotl, but worries about looking like an Elim trying to switch right after their vote on Gecko. Albatross: expresses concern about the low number of voters, saying the Elims might not be voting because a villager, ie Flamingo, is getting lynched anyway. Flamingo: expresses necessity of switching vote to Axo, worries about axo flipping village beagle: optimistic, says we’re cleared if axo flips elim Flamingo: sees Weasel in thread and hopes for a post from them on the game beagle: wonders why ppl in thread would think that we as potential Elims would as be blatant as we are Albatross: says axo flipping elim should clear us, but agrees with weasel’s argument vs Swan Beagle: agrees with suspicions of Swan. Tells Flamingo to vote axo to stay alive bc axo will vote Flamingo. Tried to contact others to swing lynch off flamingo flamingo: wants to wait and see what axo says Beagle: tells flamingo waiting is ok. Wonders why axo didn’t post anything after looking at thread flamingo: Albatross: Flamingo; albatross: Beagle: reactions to axo’s post, removing votes is suggested Flamingo: asks mods if axo is OK. Suggests vote movement albatross: says in pm that she removed vote in thread, says lion is merciless beagle: says he PMed axo asking if he wanted a pinch hitter Albatross: literally says ok and switches to mobile beagle: affirms axo is getting a pinch hitter, suggests moving vote to Swan Flamingo: says Swan lynch sounds good, hopes Swan flips elim Beagle: agrees with flamingo Albatross: glad axo got a pinch hitter, says Elims will use this against them later Beagle: wants to add elephant to pm orlok (gold text): don’t add elephant, start a new pm instead flamingo: compares gold text to the voice of God, says ok, and mentions Zebra is back on Beagle: apologizes to Orlok, remarks Swan is trying to throw doubt, and begs that she is elim flamingo: says we’re missing something end of PM there, you have the whole thing. I now have to go to school and will be on the next cycle.

Possibility 1 is looking increasingly likely. Unfortunately, the issue with a small elim team is that hitting an elim at random is really, really hard. This simply encourages the Elims to blend into the shadows more, so that they are less likely to be targeted. And your point about an Elim Dustbringer is worthy of consideration. If the Elims do have a Dustbringer, than we should be scared to death. They’d have a small team to compensate, yes, but that team would likely include a Skybreaker to find important roles, and maybe an Elsecaller to help them stay alive longer. Though, given the fact that no one’s role claimed publicly, any assumptions we make are just that until we actually manage to take down an Elim. And...about that...I’ve now been at the forefront of two lynches of semiactive villagers. Part of me is kicking myself for tunneling on Tuatara near the end, as I concur with several other people that the lynch was beginning to feel too easy, but the other part of me knows that the other options weren’t any better. Vulture has said nothing that makes me explicitly trust her, but comes off as very village regardless. Flamingo, who I did accuse earlier, has stepped forward and become an active villager, and while I understand that some people see their language as suspicious, I think it’s just their writing style, as they used similar language in our PMs. Beagle I’ve defended so much at this point I feel like a broken record, but he either is a villager or the most clever Elim ever to take form and walk Roshar. If I lose to him, I will do so happily, because he had me completely fooled. Also, I’d like people to stop with the incessant suspicions of our PM group. While I understand that from the outside it looks mysterious and suspect, the village has gotten word from every person that was in it, and our accounts all agree. It was an attempt to consolidate and resolve the D2 lynch on a player we believed suspicious, initially bringing it towards Axolotl, and after their post, towards Swan. It was done mostly to preserve Flamingo, who the group saw as villager. I really don’t see how any of that screams “elim,” especially considering that as Elims, there would be little reason for us to so fully reveal the content of the PM in the main thread. Especially if the PM is as suspect as most of you are portraying it. As for the recent vote manip, I’m pretty sure I know the player who removed Tuatara’s vote on Beagle, but I get the feeling they wouldn’t want me to say anything. I mostly trust said player, but I don’t feel like it’s a wise idea to reveal who they are in thread. I doubt the core trust group (me, Beagle, Flamingo) will make it through the night unharmed. If I’m the one to die, I give Flamingo and Beagle full permission to reveal anything I said to them in PMs, though I doubt it’ll help much.

I can confirm everything Beagle has been saying about the PM groups as true. It was made of people he thought for sure were villagers that he reached out to get discussion on the lynch. Granted, I missed most of it, but I read back through it, and Beagle’s account of events is completely correct. As for who role-claimed, Beagle and Elephant claimed in the general chat, Flamingo PMed me personally with his claim, and Albatross did not claim (at least to me.) Flamingo told me he had also PMed Beagle with info on his role. I don’t see the argument against Flamingo. You’re lynching them, essentially, for information, and not really on hard evidence about their behavior that they might be an elim. If we lynch for info, Tuatara is much better, as they’re acting far more suspiciously and everyone has commented on them in one way or another. I also don’t like how this vote is swinging away from them, and think the Elims may be trying to preserve a teammate indirectly. Anyway, I’m going for a long run because this is stressing me out, as is my schoolwork. I’ll return once the new cycle is up. Hopefully we’ll have killed an Elim by then. Also, a vote count for the remaining players that are undecided would be great, to help them make choices. Good luck and happy lynching! (...or something like that)

Okay, that’s quite the lynch wagon on Flamingo. I will reiterate that I am almost 100% sure Flamingo is village, and that I don’t see much evidence against them. They role claimed to both Beagle and me and have spoken up about the lynch in the last few days, which I only see as a good thing. Meanwhile, my suspicion of Tuatara is compounding. They seem to be jumping on whatever lynch wagon will save them with no real explanation. Although that could be a desperate villager trying not to die. Zebra’s initial case for Ostrich is compelling, having gone back and reread it, but feels very similar to the Tuatara lynch in my mind, and since Tuatara is leading in votes I’d just be hurting my own cause to move it to Ostrich at this point. Meanwhile, I’d like those supporting a Flamingo lynch to further explain themselves. Zebra, if you want I can post relevant snippets from the villager PM as to what happened and why the group quickly moved the lynch to Swan. However, I can confirm Flamingo’s account of events as correct, for now. The Swan lynch was done by PM.

Wow, Taupe Gecko. I’m not quoting that, as it’s way too long, but I will address some of your main points. And sorry, I’m skipping your summary and commentary on all the recent posts. If you didn’t catch that the Swan lynch was set up in PM, than it was. I actually haven’t really said much about it, namely since I couldn’t be on the Shard when it was happening, but basically Beagle sent a PM after a comment which Axolotl, our previous suspect, made after which the others felt very uncomfortable lynching him. He argued that Swan was the highest chance of being an elim, and so the 4 people active in the chat + bandwagon votes from Lion and Weasel, I think, moved the lynch onto Swan. Interestingly, there are only 5 votes in the GM vote count, suggesting the tampering of a Bondsmith with the vote. Definitely something to keep an eye on. Precision of Edgedancer loss can possibly be attributed to a (looking increasingly likely now) Elim Skybreaker who scanned the second Edgedancer Night 1 out of sheer luck, and then killed him night 2 to stop Beagle’s PM chains (or to clear him from suspicion). However, I’d argue that it was more just poor luck on our part. Unusual role distribution might lead us to the conclusion that our Elim ratio is off due to them having powerful roles. Maybe they even have the Dustbringer, and just have a really small team to compensate. I find that unlikely, though. Two kills a night + the relative difficulty of finding them in such a large crowd would make them incredibly powerful. However, I wouldn’t discount them having a role like Windrunner to allow them to use WGGs, a Skybreaker, and possibly an Elsecaller or two. I think we’re forgetting about Windrunners, and while they can be legitimate protection roles, they can also be drivers of WGGs. If Beagle has an accomplice, it’s definitely me, so I don’t see why you’re targeting Flamingo. I too had suspicions of them, but that was mainly due to their previous quietness, and now they’ve stepped up and begun to try to help the village. Also, they role-claimed in my personal PM, and while they may be lying, I doubt it. Especially since they apparently told Beagle as well, so I see that as a sign of trust, not something an elim would do. Unfortunately, with PMs down, I can’t confirm with Beagle, but if Beagle could acknowledge in thread that they know Flamingo’s role, that would be great. Agreed the Tuatara lynch feels too easy, but none of the other candidates are better choices, so I will stay the course.

You haven’t come off as patronizing at all, don’t worry. Your analysis has been more frequent, and as I said before it’s been helpful. Regarding my earlier arguments and your refutations of them, I’d like to clarify that I didn’t think that Beagle’s information was all correct if he was village. I was mainly trying to point out that his frequent postings of his suspicions could be interpreted from an village perspective if the Elims killed him and he flipped village. With him still alive, there’s still that tiny seed of suspicion in everyone (myself included, though my logic tells me otherwise) that he just might be Elim. And so, we can’t quite fully trust him and are forced to not take his posts at face value. Believe me, Beagle’s doing much more alive than dead, but his work is undermined by the constant underlying voice in the back of everyone’s mind saying that he’s playing us all for fools. In regards to my inactives comment, I should have been more specific in saying that the Elims are choosing players that will give us little info about the game if they die. Iguana? A few short posts that didn’t say much. Scarlet Octopus? Same thing (I mean, they had one uber-long post that painfully dissected one of Kangaroo’s posts, but other than that, nothing much). If they break the pattern, I have a feeling it’ll be for an obvious reason, i.e. their Skybreaker (if they have one) finds our Dustbringer. The less info the Elims give us, the better it is for them, as our lynches are less informed.

Agree with Albatross’s reads on Beagle, Onyx, Elephant, Zebra, Axoltol, Scorpion, and to some extent Toucan. Toucan’s hard to read through all the RP, but she seems neither cleared nor suspicious, so I’m inclined to let her live for now. We’ll have more info on her once the lynch resolves. I’d move Kangaroo and Gorilla to 50/50. While both have been posting analysis, they’ve also been doing so infrequently, and not enough for me to draw too many conclusions. I’ve got a village feeling from Gorilla, though, and nothing about his posts seem to stand out as suspicious. So maybe he does belong in the slight village category, but I feel that he hasn’t said enough to merit being put in one category or the other, despite his recent activity of late. Tuatara I’d move to slight elim based on the same reasons I voted for him. Weird accusation of Beagle, combined with other short and noncommittal posts, seems like an elim trying to hide. Vulture is a weird case. She’s spent three posts attempting to decipher if I’m a new player or not while simultaneously claiming that such things don’t matter. However, her other commentary on the lynch seems helpful. Really helpful, in fact. I’m not sure exactly what to make of her, but for now I’m actually leaning village. Unless someone can point something out in her behavior that’s suspect, of course. @Onyx Flamingo, would you mind further explanation of your vote on Vulture other than odd activity levels?

@Cream Tuatara The info Beagle’s lynch would give us would be if we could trust him or not, which at that point would be almost moot. Sure, his reads would be confirmed as not suspicious, but even then they could be wrong, as he himself points out. The only other motive behind killing him would be if we thought he was elim, a chance that’s next to zero at this point. His creation of so many PMs seems to point to a villager trying to unite the village and garner discussion. And frankly, even though PMs are closed now, he succeeded. People like Amber Vulture and Turquoise Gorilla are much more active now ( through a combination of pinch-hitters stepping in and Beagle’s outreach), and the whole village is talking more. Of course, with him making so many posts and PMs, there’s bound to be a comment or two that feels off or suspicious, as (I think) Vulture said. But when you look at his posts, and his actions in creating the PMs as a whole, there’s really very little to suggest he’s evil. @Sunburst Toucan If you don’t take my word for it that I am new, you can ask Oxblood Beagle and Cream Tuatara, both of whom came to the correct conclusion about my real identity separately. While I’d ask them not to reveal it, they know I have never played SE before. My use of terms like WGG comes from having read the rules like 20 times, looking through past game threads, and following LG41. Again, ask Beagle or Tuatara if you want confirmation. I’m not saying that you should be taking pity on me, I’m simply letting you know that I’m not lying when I say I’m new. Which is likely where the other things you noticed about me come from: I’m probably too willing to trust, and haven’t played enough to really get a feel for suspicious behavior, as that’s something reading back through old game threads won’t teach you. It’s one thing to see suspicious behavior in a thread and recognize it with the clarity of hindsight than it is to actively identify it. Which is probably why I mistakenly trust some people that may flip as Elims. For similar reasons to Beagle, I still distrust Tuatara. I’d like to be able to trust Beagle completely; I think we all would. However, the dearth of evidence against him, a player with upwards of 50 posts, makes it a bad lynch in my eyes. A similar amount of evidence against Tuatara, who has made a dozen fairly short posts, is suspicious. My vote stays where it is until I see a reason to move it. Edit: ninja’d by a ton of people. And, duh, my choice of wording at the end of paragraph three was terrible, so I’ll go ahead and point that out before someone else does. It sounds really Elim even to me.

Cream Tuatara: Stated my suspicions of them. Not much to add here, and those last two posts don’t make me any less suspicious. The vote on Lion, while it may have been a genuine mistake, was still not explained well, and it could have been a contrived mistake to try and get themselves trusted with relatively little effort. My vote stays on him until he steps forth and offers commentary. Fuschia Ostrich: Again, on the activity fringe making a lot of NAI posts. Gives me reason to suspect he/she might be elim. One post that did pop out to me was the vote on Weasel, done to tie the vote and let RNG decide the first vote. Seems random and NAI, but I’ll keep an eye on it. Pearl Chameleon: I actually trust him. I know that he hasn’t posted frequently, but his few posts are insightful and they help the village. But... I did find the post I was talking about earlier. Chameleon was the one who defended Meerkat, but it seems to be well-intentioned so I don’t know if it’s sufficient grounds for lynching if Meerkat flips elim. Definently keeping an eye on that post though. Salmon Meerkat: He’s one of those players that everything about his posts sounds okay, but the underlying tone makes me nervous. I can’t really attribute it to anything other than gut feeling, so I’m not going to lynch him for such a terrible reason, but I will be following his posts closely to see if I can puzzle him out. @Sage Kangaroo I think there’s a simpler reason the Elims haven’t killed Beagle: it would confirm nearly everything he’s been saying as true. If I was elim, I would wait to kill Beagle until the very end of the game, letting the suspicion on him build to negate some of his meaningful commentary and to deflect suspicion away from themselves. Of course, this assumes village!Beagle, but I don’t really see much of a case for Elim!Beagle, as his comments seem genuine, as do his motives. Again, not completely ignoring him as a suspect, but I trust him.

Feeling a bit sorry for Beagle as his whole PM Empire collapsed around his furry ears. Elims going after inactives makes a lot of sense to me. Killing an actually active player would generate valuable discussion for the village, and since they know which inactives are village they can kill them with impunity as we try to puzzle out the frequent posters. We typically only lynch actives, as they’re easier to build cases against, but the real Elims are hiding somewhere on the “activity fringe.” Like, 6-12 posts. Enough to contribute without reprimand, but not enough to give us the ability to solidly analyze them. Maybe one of them is a frequent contributor, but the rest are hiding. That said, who to lynch? I’m scanning the activity fringe, and find myself suspicious of Cream Tuatara. On the Shard recently (1 hour ago), but hasn’t really posted anything except some short NAI posts that deflected attention from him. Until I find a reason to trust him, I’m voting Cream Tuatara. We have to start going for the semiactives, and I feel he’s the best place to start. At least, hopefully this vote will inspire him to post some solid analysis. I’m also suspicious of Salmon Meerkat, though it’s more of a gut feel than anything else and not something I would actually lynch him for. In addition, I think someone made a post defending him, which if Meerkat does flip elim, we should likely investigate. I’ll scan the thread again to see if I can find it. I urge all villagers (and Elims too, I guess) to get some discussion going on the lynch. A weekend day cycle is perfect for lynch discussion, so hopefully this will develop nicely and we can lynch an actual Elim.

Dang...those are some great keteks. Props to the writer. Sorry I couldn’t get on sooner, staying up late last night took something out of me and in the morning I’d completely forgotten to post here. I’ll look back over the night thread soon, just want to let people know I’m still here, and should be more active over the weekend.

Yeah, every weekday. But they’re at 3:00 after school, which is generally the hottest part of the day. And you’re sweating plenty after a few 800s. They’ve kind of been the reason I haven’t posted as much as I would have liked over the past few days, but part of it is just typical school schedule. After finishing my research paper on invasive species, I can say with great confidence that the Elims are the invasive species in our Rosharan ecosystem. We need all villagers to look for signs of foreign or exotic origin among these animals, so we may exile them before all us native species are dead.

Okay, back from school and there’s SO MUCH to catch up on, so sorry if I come off as slightly distracted. Swan lynch shouldn’t have happened. I didn’t trust Swan but never really suspected them either, and it’s a shame we lost a contributing village member. That said, I don’t know if anyone in it can be pegged as elim, as Swan herself said. Thanks to my accusations, Flamingo and Albatross have become active participants, and looking at their posts I now mostly trust them actually. alright have to write a research paper but will try to post before I go to bed. Sorry for low quality of this post.

I agree with his comments about inactive players needing to post more, but I don’t trust that he’s a villager. I’m a little annoyed that we have so little information to go on for this lynch. We have half the discussion we did D1 (though I suppose D1 was a weekend, so people, including myself, could get on more.) I’ve read back through the first cycle again, and still no one I haven’t already examined jumps out at me. There’s a few people I have mild suspicions of, but due to low activity levels I can’t really build a comprehensive case against them simply because I haven’t heard enough from them. With no other options, I’m keeping my vote on Mint Heron, which sucks because I won’t be online again until after the cycle ends. I urge the village to please find a good lynch candidate among the flurry of posts from D1, and succeed where I have failed. The people I have mild suspicions of are @Magenta Albatross and @Amethyst Scorpion, for general low post quality, and the posts they do make talking about the lynch seem off. Can’t really say much more, but PLEASE make a good decision today. At the very least, actually lynch someone. Our votes are too spread out.

I fully agree with you @Onyx Flamingo. While I may have devoted an absurd amount of my life to this game over the weekend, I’m now on a more limited schedule that lets me make 2-3 posts at night and 1 in the morning. However, I’m trying to cram as much analysis into each as I can, to continue to try to be active. I’m not asking for a full commitment to posting, just that each person could put out at least 1 solid post per day. If we want to be able to find the Elims, we need discussion among all members of the village. That said, with the cycle so close to ending, I can’t afford to use my vote as a poke vote, since due to the nature of my schedule it’s more than likely I won’t be able to get on the Shard within 10 hours of the cycle ending. I need to place my vote now, and see where things stand in the morning. So...yeah, I don’t have a suspect to really vote on. Though I still don’t trust Flamingo fully, I don’t have enough on him to justify a lynch vote. Same goes for Meerkat. So, I will poke vote Mint Heron despite my earlier assurance that I would do no such thing, and hope that the lynch develops enough overnight to give me a clearer target in the morning.

Alright, track practice got done early so I can share some thoughts now: I don’t trust you. (Sorry.) My reason for swinging the lynch away from you was that you had been posting your thoughts consistently, and Dingo was just as suspicious but was offering far less insight into the lynch than you were. Better to lynch him, a lurker, than you, since you’re active in chat and will actually respond to discussion about the lynch. Plus, reading over your posts again, your actions make a bit more sense, even if I don’t agree with some of them. Would you mind explaining your suspicions of Gecko? His D1 voting was odd, I’ll grant you, but now he’s stepped forward a bit and answered our accusations, so unless you have more specific evidence against him, I don’t see much of a case for lynching him now that he’s decided to be a contributing village member. I would like to think that I’ve been expressing my opinions of Flamingo fairly civilly, but if there’s a post or section of a post of mine that could be perceived as aggressive or confrontational, please tell me and I will try to fix it. I haven’t been trying to “go at the throat” of Flamingo, merely express my suspicions. As for Flamingo himself (herself?), I haven’t really seen anything from him that makes me less suspicious. Nor have I seen anything that makes me more suspicious. Personally, I’d like some commentary on the lynch from them. I personally think that the best way to identify people is by having everyone contribute more. If more people do RP, and discuss the lynch, it will be easier to differentiate between people. Although spreadsheets and notes might help, discussion is the key to a healthy village.

I never said that I was going to lynch you based on that post, and had no intention of doing so. It simply felt off to me, and I wanted an explanation behind your thought processes to clear some of my suspicions. As Coral Swan said, the only way the village can find Elims is by lynching people. The threat of a lynch forces players to talk, and if we simply track the Elim kills there’s really no way to sort out who they are when there’s no discussion in-thread. And you also have to follow through on the lynch, so Elims don’t think they can just sit back, make a few posts about nothing really at all, and keep killing people. Yes, I was originally opposed to a day 1 lynch. Call me a hypocrite if you will, but I’ve come to see the reasoning behind it, and I think Dingo’s lynch was beneficial in the sense that even though we lost a villager, we cleared a potential suspect and can now move on to other players. Beagle’s first comment, while obvious, seems genuine based on his preamble to it. With little night discussion, and people submitting kill orders and such, he’s hoping the village benefits. While it may seem off slightly, it’s also obvious what his intent is (even if he is Elim, he’s not going to say “oh I hope a ton of villagers die tonight”) so I was simply wondering why you asked for clarification when you probably already knew the answer. In the second post, he mentions that if the village wants a lynch they should consolidate their spread-out votes. This makes logical sense, and is a post that anyone wanting a D1 lynch would likely make, regardless of their alignment. I don’t really see how you find it suspicious. The third post is him agreeing with the Dingo lynch and placing his vote on it. He likely didn’t want to make the same points I did over again, and so simply quoted me. As to your accusation that Beagle and I are somehow collaborating secretively, yes, we have a PM and both trust each other as villagers. That doesn’t mean I have a blind spot for him- again, his “hopes everything goes well” post feels off to me. However, when taken in context with the entirety of his posts, it makes more sense. We trust each other, and I don’t see how that’s a bad thing as long as I’m keeping an eye on his posts for any suspicious comments. Anyway, I have to go to school now, so I hope lynch discussion develops as I’m away. Should be back around 6 pm EST.

Pressed for time is quite a legitimate reason, as I know that feeling well. Consider my suspicions of that post assayed. I had overlooked some of your reasons for your vote on Swan, but your “fluff” post still seems suspect. While I understand this may just be your way of saying that the post was meant to prompt lynch discussion instead of being a specific accusation of Swan, it still comes off strangely. But I’ll look over it for now, as your intentions seem fairly clear, even if the post was not. My last point about the redirection of the lynch was addressed mainly at you because you specifically moved the lynch from a player that was (at the time) unresponsive and random to a player that had been actively posting. Now, I understand you were trying to broaden the range of lynch canidates (and I am glad you steered the vote away from Gecko, as he’s actually a useful villager now that he’s explaining himself), but at the time the vote seemed somewhat random and based on fairly flimsy evidence, considering that Swan was active and doing her best to contribute to discussion. (Although that may be a common theme across most D1 lynches.) Nevertheless, now that Swan has become less suspect, who do you propose we lynch? I still think @Onyx Flamingois most suspect for reasons outlined in my previous post, but I’d like to hear more of your thoughts.

Well, skimmed the threads, and I found 2 people that popped out at me. @Onyx Flamingo, you’ve been fairly active lately, which I appreciate, but your posts have mostly been RP, rules questions, and reactions to developments. Not that any of the above three are bad (in fact, I’ve posted all three of those myself), but you haven’t really said anything of note regarding the lynch. Might just be paranoia, but you’re kind of “hiding in plain sight.” Also, the way you said “good we are on the same page” felt off to me. As if you were saying the opposite of what you were thinking, which in this case would be “Elims living, villagers dying.” Beagle’s statement was obvious (which I feel he meant it to be), and there was really no need to agree with it. The fact that you did makes it look over the top and unnecessary. Not that you necessarily meant it to be, but that’s how it came out. So far I’ve got a slight Elim read on you, but explaining some of your posts and offering discussion on the lynch would go a long way towards mitigating that. The other player is Meerkat. I’m suspicious of him for similar reasons to Flamingo: weird posts that sometimes state the obvious, such as his “oh no we lost a light weaver” post. Again, it’s obvious, and feels to me like he’s saying the opposite of what he means. Also, his argument for Coral Swan was fairly bizarre, seeming as if he was trying to redirect the lynch toward someone he perhaps knew was a villager? I’m not saying Swan is cleared, but she seems villager-y and a lynch on village!Swan would only help the Elims. Again, an explanation would help mitigate my fears, @Salmon Meerkat.

With no way to differentiate between the Elim and Dustbringer kills, this is going to be hard to sort out. Both kills were kind of out of left field. Hyena didn’t really say much about anything, and Iguana made a few posts trying to help get everyone’s RP name and animal name matched up. She made one post at the end separating inactives from lurkers, and that seems to be it for discussion on the lynch. Then again, perhaps the Elims chose deliberately confusing targets to throw off our guesses as to who they’re after. @Orlok Tsubodai, will we be given info as to which kills are Dustbringer and which are elim? If not, it may be a good idea for the Dustbringer (if they’re village) to not kill anyone this cycle, just to see who the Elims are after. The deaths just honestly baffle me, but if a gun was held to my head, I’d say that the Elims killed Iguana. I have no real suspects to bring forward. I’ll skim the D1 thread again and see if anything pops out at me.

Not too much has been said since I got on here last. However, I’d like to notify people that with school starting back up after the long weekend, the number and frequency of my posts may drop significantly. I will be as active as possible, of course, just thought I’d give a heads-up.

@Amber Vulture My main issue with the “new” card is the same issue you have with it; it allows potentially Elim-like behavior to be brushed aside by claiming inexperience. Hence my unwillingness to use it when I switched my stance on the D1 lynch, but I had quickly realized that my original assumptions about D1 lynches in SE were sadly lacking in logic, and so I was providing inexperience as the reason for my rapid shift in viewpoint. Which it was, as had I played longer I would have quickly seen the faulty logic behind lynching an inactive who was just going to get replaced. However, I don’t like using it because it’s an easy out for suspicious behavior, and I would rather people just read my posts than think in the back of their minds, “Oh, he’s a new player, that’s probably why he thinks that, we should probably let him go.” If I’m coming across as Elim, lynch me. There’s not much point in letting me go because I’m new, any more than there would be in letting me go if I was an Edgedancer. As for my seeming to be semi-regular, my grasp of the terminology and roles in the game comes from having obsessively stalked the recent LG41, then going back through old games to get a feel for gameplay and strategy. Any “experience” I have is purely theoretical/scholastic. (Which is why I’m RPing as a scholar.)

The most annoying part of Dingo’s death to me was how preventable it was. Had he expressed his opinions instead of offering short posts with nothing in them, or responded to our accusations and lynch votes, or even just role-claimed, we could have not lost an Edgedancer. However, the fact that there are 2 Edgedancers makes me suspect there might be two of each role, which means that up to four people could die per cycle, with the lynch, elim kill and 2 Dustbringers. Yay. (Actually, now that I think about it, 2 Dustbringers seems unlikely. But there still may be two of every other role.) RP below: Nolan shook his head in regret. Quentisan’s unexplained actions had led Nolan to call him out, asking an explanation. However, the man had slunk into the shadows, providing only a mumbled response. The village had turned violent against him quickly thereafter. With the clarity of hindsight, Nolan realized that wielding the torch as part of the mob that day had been a mistake. That did not excuse the mistake, however. He should have realized that Edgedancers kept a low profile, as befitted their order. Edgedancers...the fact that Quentisan had been one was the validation of his months of research. He was back at the library again, though the Stormlight lantern seemed dimmer this night. Perhaps it was the murder he had partaken in that dimmed his eyes, leaving him less able to see the holy light the lantern contained. The book on the Knights Radiant had been informative, however. Apparently, there were several oaths each order swore before they gained the powers of that order. Not to mention they had to bond to an actual spren to even swear the oaths correctly. Quentisan’s spren had been a “cultivationspren,” whatever that was. Perhaps they showed up around farms? The village should see them all the time then. Looking at the oaths, it seemed all the orders had one in common. Life before death. Strength before weakness. Journey before destination. Powerful words. Words to live by. Words that might have prevented him from his mistake that night, long ago, that had driven him to study religion. Closing his book with a sigh, he began to walk home through the night, the oath he had read still bouncing around in his head.

Yeah, it didn’t come out right. I edited to fix it, sorry.

I had to learn too. It’s [color’=red]vote[/color], without the apostrophe.