Indigo Weasel

Cuz uh *consults sheet* I forgot to mention them as a low poster. Whoops. I'm still going to stick with my vote on Chameleon though because I get the vibe of higher... Watching activity from chameleon, whereas lion seems to just kind of post whenever they have time. That's a purely gut interpretation of events, but I'm sticking with it. Opal lion also kind of has the same problem as you do, in that their posts are extremely RP based and therefore hard to read into.

Gosh darn it. Can you understand my pain? I just spent the last hour or so hand picking data from previous days to stare at and make conclusions from, and I decided that Tuatara looked evil and came here to vote them. BUT THE SPIKED KILLED THEM. Anyway, my analysis is complete, even if my biggest read was immediately offed. I had a great explanation and everything. But I guess, Tuatara wasn't really the target I'm actually looking for. What I'm looking for are people who are flying under the radar, who could be dodging suspicion that way. A couple things came out of this First, Coral Swan's choices in music are based, so I have no interest in ever exeing them. This may be a stupid opinion, but the arts must be protected! This is kind of despite the fact that they kind of exactly fit the bill of the kind of person I'm looking for, but if they survived, they're probably not a tineye? Unless they're an elim mistborn, which according to earlier AG role distributions is quite possible. But again, I'd argue that should simply be dealt with by the coinshot tonight. Second, I have serious concerns about Rhino. They are very active in thread, which according to what I'm actually looking for (number of posts, number of vote changes, voting patterns ect) they look fine. But the actual content of their posts is extremely suspect. Now, I understand that it is a RP choice, and I don't have a problem with that inherently. But it does seem to me as an easy playstyle to get away with many, low quality posts that don't actually inform any reads. However, I don't feel that Rhino is a worthy vote right this moment, so we'll list them as a possible suspect for later if their patterns seem incriminating enough to look past their playstyle. @Chartreuse PenguinI have a question for thee. On day 2, you listed me as a strong village read. I have serious questions about that, because imo so far I'd figure a slight elim read on me in general if anything. A strong village read seems... odd. Would you mind explaining why you found me village? That leaves me with 2 people with low levels of consistent activity who haven't shared an explicit reason for not being able to post more often. That leaves Pearl Chameleon and Sunburst Toucan. Given that I've had a positive interaction with Toucan in PMs (if I'm remembering correctly), I'm going to vote Pearl Chameleon. Essentially, they've been posting very consistently, but only one or two posts a day, flying under pretty much every radar. The perfect place to hide. Edit: I could easily be convinced into a penguin exe if their answer isn't helpful. Edit 2: I totally got swan and flamingo confused. This raises further questions on Swan, but as I said I'm going to leave them be for their choice in RP music. My conclusions on Flamingo and the exe remain unchanged

I mentioned this in some PMs, but I am currently working on doing some rather intense analysis, but it will have to be put on hold due to some professional concerns that are currently taking most of my attention. I might get my analysis completed by sometime tomorrow after I finish the various applications that I am in the process of completing. The old man stared down at the village from his perch on the rooftop. He didn't know any of these individuals, at least not in their current forms. Nothing to be done about that. If he wanted information, there would be patterns. There were always patterns. And he would find them, and that tineye who had taunted the village with their message.

A small defense of Flamingo. Not really regarding anything they've done, but I'd argue from a balance perspective, it's unlikely that there would be a thug on an elim team, unless it was made one person smaller. So either flamingo is village, or we're up against a 4 man team, if my estimates are correct. They could be wrong, of course. Now that I've thought about how many kills there are per turn, it's possible we could even be looking at a 6 man team, though if so they probably aren't role heavy at all. And, honestly that feels a little bit too big to me. I'm still staking my bet on 5, and I just don't see a thug being given to a 5 man team. If the coinshot feels really strongly about it, they can go ahead and blow another kill on Flamingo, but I think thread's efforts should be pointed elsewhere. As to where, yeah I have no idea. I guess the exes on villagers would be a good place to start.

Emerges from hole sorry for disappearing, but in my defense I was basically spending all my extra time either reading SP1 or spending time with family. But I finished the book, and my family's winter break is finished, so that will no longer be an issue. Twas a dang good book tho Anyway, that tineye message gets my hackles up. Dare us to find ya, huh? Cheeky little bugger, huh. We still haven't killed an elim, and with 23 people to start, we're looking at at least a 4, maybe 5 man team. I'd imagine the coinshot is village, as is usually done, and with 5 dead that leaves us at worst a 5-13 split ATM. Or 4-14. Which means we have slightly less than a 1/3 chance that any one person is an elim. Lovely math if I do say so myself, but for all my brains I still have no idea who to suspect. But, I guess finding someone cheeky enough to send that message would be a start. Given that this is an anonymous game that will be harder than usual, but well something tells me that most likely this tineye is not going to have a huge presence in thread. Could be wrong, but that's my gut instinct. Based on that, I'm going to filter people... Not right now. But soon.

I know I should be paying attention to this, but I'm sure you guys will understand that I'm very much enjoying Tress and the Emerald Sea right now and my brain is being entirely consumed by that. And yeah I'm not an elim. Cuz if I were I wouldn't have killed Dingo. After seeing the dingo kill I was kind of actually anticipating that there would be a push on me from the elims as I figure I'm pretty easy pickings. Which is weird, because I haven't really done anything interesting yet. And I'll say this one last time. I found the play style of reverse speaking annoying. That's it. I'm not going to hate the player, or get angry, or really do anything outside a day 1 vote. Not will I be getting upset about other odd playstyles, I just happened to find that one hard to read. I'm not sure why everyone started getting up at arms about it, because I was NEVER going to make a big deal out of it, or hurt anybody's feelings. So I'd appreciate if people would stop blowing it out of proportion. Thank you, I shall return to reading and try and get a vote before rollover. No promises though.

You know I was just in the shower thinking to myself, yeah dingos definitely a villager. Then I log in and boom, they're a villager! And... They're dead. WHYYYYYYYY

It does annoy me, I'll be straight up with that. Making me mad, not so much. But it's not going to come before anything that I actually find suspicious. I didn't find anything that really set off my alarm bells last turn, and weirdly enough, me being like this is giving me some information on you guys. I like solid confrontation about stuff, it gives me a solid village vibe. Elim tends to lean just kind of avoiding attention and controversy, so I find villagers are always the ones getting in arguments like this. So yeah, I'm not trying to be an arse, and if you want to continue playing all reverse, by all means go ahead. It will still annoy me, but I live with plenty of things that annoy me. I'm mature enough to handle it beyond day one where I didn't have anything else to work with. Edit: also, yes I see you guys thinking I'm suspicious somehow for not finding suspicious stuff day one. I'm sorry, but no matter the game, I ALWAYS take a few days to gather information before I can really start getting a solid read on people. I've never been the kind of person to do detailed analysis before about... day 3 usually. So, leave me alone. I got some information out of it, so I'm happy with the situation. I'm going to leave well enough alone personally. Edit: I apologize if this post came off as a bit more terse than I usually am. My family is being particularly aggravating today, and that may have come through in this post.

OH NOT YOU TOO

Interesting. Ties are always fun to see how people respond. That being said, I have come to the conclusion that Melon Dingo is a soft village for me. Not a lot of info, but well thats what I got. Doesn't make me like their reverse posts any more though.

Mmmm tasty discussion Personally, I do not find sending PMs to be alignment indicative. So, I won't be supporting any trains on people for JUST that reason. If there's more to it, then that's different. I shall continue to watch and think for now.

Lovely, then my vote stays until I find something that either annoys me more or actually makes me suspicious

The old man sighed. Melon dingo just for annoying my eyes Edit: right now I have nothing much else to say, we've got a lot of RP going on which is great, but doesn't make for great material to read into.

A berwraggled man walked into town. Nobody knew him, so everyone stayed away. He had long hair, and a grey beard of considerable length. Indeed, it seemed to have been a while since his face had last seen a razor. Nobody asked his name, nor would he have volunteered one if he had been asked. But he was happy to talk about the going on's in the land, and had apparently come to reside in the village for a period of time. Whether he was to be trusted, was yet to be seen. This is me, signing in. I am expecting at least medium levels of activity from myself, so please bug me if I'm not giving at least that. I'm also open to PMs, and perhaps I will send some out if I feel like doing so tomorrow. Depends on how much time my other pursuits in life take up. That shall be all for now. edit: also, my gosh I love my profile picture.

Well, everything is really quiet. @<kel>, does the turn end in like 2 minutes or in like 2 minutes + 24 hours?

After hours of hard work and almost missing the deadline, here are my reads: Kandra: Ivory Dragonfly, Salmon Meerkat Tasty Animals: Mauve Crocodile, Indigo Weasel, Azure Mouse, Charcoal Hyena, Oxblood Beagle, Amber Vulture

Swan

That was to Penguin and Dingo who said that I didn't give reads after the first day or not. And yeah in case ya'll haven't figured it out yet, I'm not actually new to the site... Which is why that big post sounded different because I was letting the real me slip through.

I wonder if nobody actually read my post from the second day because it was so long? It's on this page: Life has been rough, but I'm going to start working on revising my reads when I have more time later today.

I wonder if Ostrich claiming scum could be a gambit to try to scare off any sharpshooters if they don't have a way to protect Ostrich. Because claiming scum makes it seem like there's no way for Ostrich to fail a convert. @Fuchsia Ostrich, why are you so sure that there aren't any coinshots? Honestly I don't know if it's worth taking any of their answers seriously, because Ostrich is just going to be trying to create as much chaos as possible. But I guess having information to go off of could be helpful later in the game when stuff start to be revealed and we discover if they are just completly lying. Some more questions. How many hops does your team have avaliable? How many of your teamates have roles? If you have a role, what is it?

Those weren't in order of likeliness btw, just the order they came to mind. The person who referred me to this site recommended that I read the previous anonymous game, so that terminology is fresh in my mind.

I got carried away, sorry xD Seeing as we didn't get a kill on the first day, I think the best way to find scum is based on interaction with/from Falcon during the first day. In order of appearance here is the interactions with Falcon: Hyena: Hoping Falcon quick recovery from sickness. Scorpion: Telling Falcon to stop PMing them. Falcon: Asks Scorpion why. Scorpion: Doesn't want them and finds Falcon's PMs annoying. Falcon: Complies Falcon: Comment about why voting first day is a good idea. Swan: Switches vote to Falcon for making all the PMs. Penguin: Thinks Falcon making PMs is NAI because both a scum or townie could do it. Scorpion: Thinks effort clears are bad, but that the amount of effort that Falcon put into making the PMs doesn't make sense for a scum to do. Myself: Thinks that the potentional reward for Falcon's PM stuff is higher for a scum rather than a townie. Beagle: Comments on Falcon spam. Albatross: Doesn't think Falcon's PM thing was AI like Penguin said. Penguin: Gut town read on Falcon Meerkat: Doesn't see what Falcon accomplishes by making so many PMs. Doesn't put forth an opinion of Falcon. Vulture: Has Falcon as Mild Elim read. Penguin: Still prefers a Scorpion vote to a Falcon vote. Falcon: Thinks that Scorpion's reaction to his PM stuff is townie. Falcon: Reads. Townie: Scorpion, Myself, Meerkat, and Dingo. Less sure townie: Penguin, Vulture, and Swan. Neutral: Mouse, Dragonfly, Crocodile, Hyena, Beagle. Scum: Ostrich, Albatross. Votes for Ostrich. Falcon: Claims they were expecting to form reads with the PM thing. Dingo: Thinks that group PMs are scary. Penguin: Prefers Swan to Falcon Vulture: If Swan flips scum, Falcon is likely town Falcon: Thinks scum size is between 2-4. Mouse: Has Falcon as scum read. Falcon: Would rather change vote to Crocodile than Scorpion. And that is all we have from Day 1. At this point people's reads of Falcon fall under these catagories: Read Falcon was Town: Scorpion, Penguin Read Falcon was Scum: Swan, Myself, Vulture, Mouse Read Falcon as Neutral: Albatross Doesn't share feelings about Falcon: Meerkat, Crocodile, Dingo, Hyena, Beagle, Ostrich, Dragonfly Now if we look at the first night with the same idea, this is what we get. Falcon: Allegedly doesn't notice vote manip. Falcon: Notices vote manip. Swan: Points out to Falcon that someone might have been proving a role. Falcon: Comments on Swans point being possible. Falcon: Comment about wishing Crocodile hadn't claimed. Vulture: Counters Falcon on the fact that Crocodile was going to die because they claimed. Penguin: Says that scum like PMs, counter to what Falcon said. Falcon: Tells Ostrich that ties result in no death. Myself: Asks Scorpion why their vote remained on Falcon even though they were in danger. Scorpion: Asks Falcon why they voted for a less active (Ostrich) rather than a more active. Town read for Falcon. Vulture: Has Falcon in scum read. After the night, none of people's reads for Falcon have changed publicly. Now if we go back to the first day real quick and looks at players votes for Falcon. Scorpion votes Falcon. Swan votes Falcon. Swan unvotes Falcon and votes for Scorpion when Falcon is tied up to die. Both of the players that voted for Falcon look kinda bad honestly. Scorpion votes Falcon for doing PMs, and later says they think Falcon looks town. Actually, looking back Scorpion didn’t say town, it was more a feeling of not-scum. So Scorpion voted for Falcon when they weren’t a scum read. Swan on the other hand leaves from voting Falcon when it becomes apparent that they might be dying from the lynch. Something else that stands out is players that commented about Falcon but didn’t actually give their own feelings about them. This includes Hyena, Beagle, Meerkat, and Dingo. Now lets put people animals in categories based on their reads vs Falcon’s reads of them. Reads Falcon as town + Falcon reads them as town: Scorpion, Penguin (Falcon’s read is less sure) Reads Falcon as scum + Falcon reads them as town: Swan, Myself, Vulture Reads Falcon as scum + Falcon reads them as neutral: Mouse Reads Falcon as neutral + Falcon reads them as scum: Albatross Doesn’t give read of Falcon + Falcon reads them as town: Meerkat, Dingo Doesn’t give read of Falcon + Falcon reads them as neutral: Crocodile, Hyena, Beagle, Dragonfly Doesn’t give read of Falcon + Falcon reads them as scum: Ostrich So now that we have this information, what can we find with it. Swan and Scorpion, who look bad based on vote stuff are both in categories with other players. Players on their own are Mouse, Albatross, and Ostrich. So from everything so far we have these three categories of players: Weird vote stuff: Scorpion and Swan Commenting on Falcon without giving opinion stuff: Hyena, Beagle, Meerkat, and Dingo Being on their own with reads of Falcon vs Falcon’s read of them stuff: Mouse, Albatross and Ostrich. With the first group, I’d be surprised if both of them were scum, but it’s possible. I think Swan looks worse here because they took their vote off when Falcon was pressured, but it’s worth not discarding Scorpion’s vote not following their read. Out of the next four, I think that Beagle and Meerkat stand out the most to me. Probably because they’ve posted a lot more in general than Hyena and Dingo and so I would have expected to see some reads from them even more. The last ones… I’m not sure. It’s interesting that both of Falcon’s scum reads fall under this last category. Mouse hadn’t yet posted so Falcon just threw them into neutral. Wouldn’t be surprised if Falcon was distancing from one of them. So from that, we narrow it down to Swan, Beagle, Meerkat, Albatross, and Ostrich. I’m pretty confident in there being at least one scum, probably even two. And now it looks like Ostrich is claiming that they were PMd by someone who scanned Albatross as scum. Interesting. The possibilities I see here include 1. Ostrich is scum and Albatross is town. In this case Ostrich is making it all up and has decided that it's worth it to take out a villager. Maybe to distract from scum that are up for the lynch. If that's the case, they aren't the one(s) on my list if there are any. In this case, they probably have a jump and are hoping they don't get coinshot. 2. Ostrich is scum and Albatross is scum. In this case, they are deciding to sacrafice a teamate for massive town cred for Ostrich. 3. Ostirch is town, their contact is town, and albatross is scum. In this case all parties are telling the truth and is best case scenario. 4. Ostrich is town, their contact is scum, and albatross is scum. This could be something where the 'scanner' gets massive cred instead of scenario 2 and then maybe fake village scans someone next turn and then 'scans' a town as scum to get them killed. 5. Ostirch is town, their contact is scum, and albatross is town. Basically same as 1, but going through an intimediary for some reason. 6. Ostrich is town, their contact is town, and albatross is town. Uhhhhh... I don't know why they would do this xD So is it worth trusting Ostirch? I think it is, without just dropping all other reads, because we can act during night with killers and next turns and if Ostrich is scum and somehow survives it'll waste one of their hops if they have one. I think the risks aren't high enough to not vote Albatross.

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