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Mauve Crocodile

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  1. If I may, Lion would be my suggestion. I offered a simple and effective solution to the Weasel problem and am being lynched for it. Loin posted almost nothing but a defensive post about being voted on. I am being honest about my intentions, they may or may not be the same as my factions but that's besides the point. Lion hasn't offered anything despite votes being on him for over 24 hours.
  2. Which is why I gave the suggestion that Odium/Ruin kill Weasel. To be honest, I don't see us getting past Weasel as long as they are alive. They will always be a subject of discussion/lynch.
  3. I'm not in your faction so naturally I would want you dead regardless of what faction I might or might not be in.
  4. To me, nothing, but the fact you are constantly up for the lynch stifles discussion. A clean slate is preferable than having the 'do we don't we lynch Weasel' next round.
  5. Indeed. Lynching Weasel or Axolot seems pointless this cycle as odds are they will survive. Instead how about we lynch Lion who shouldn't survive and have Odium/Ruin attack Weasel this night. Since if Devotion uses their ability on Weasel, any actions targeting them will be redirected to Devotion and they would die. (Honestly I'm surprised Odium hasn't already attacked Weasel to take out Devotion) I don't think they will save Weasel if they run the risk of dying. We can lynch Axolot next cycle since he shouldn't still have his extra life unless I'm missing something. As for why to lynch Lion, they have been online since first being voted on while the Dingo lynch that's just starting might miss them. We lynched last cycle late in the day and they were unable to respond. I don't know about you but I personally dislike being lynched without being given the chance to respond.
  6. While I would love to see Weasel lynched simply to test their claim, if they really are protected there is no point. So we need a new or alternative lynch prospect. Opal Lion, while I could possibly come up with a reason or just say it's a gut feeling, the truth is you're not part of my faction and as far as I'm aware, not helping my faction either so my vote goes on you for now.
  7. Isn't that how we normally use the lynch? We vote for someone that hasn't talked to get their reads on people and such?
  8. Wouldn't that be a good reason to lynch you from other factions stand points? I doubt they would want you forming alliances and make your faction too strong.
  9. Ah but if I reveal how I know it could lead to who I suspect. We wouldn't want it to be too easy would we?
  10. In my somewhat limited experience, SE tends to go in swings and roundabouts. One game they're all for working with neutrals and the next it's 'Off with their heads!' It's something that I like and dislike about these games. It's always changing.
  11. That is not the case (at least, not any longer). I only had two actions a turn on cycles 7 and 8, to compensate for an error in receiving my win condition. I’ve been at one action per cycle since Day 9.
  12. Tearim was ostracised, and I saw Klade as more of a likely threat, given that Tearim claimed to not have actually joined the SoH, if I’m reading his posts correctly. Tearim’s impending ostracisation factored into my analysis as well. That said, there wasn’t terribly much to choose between the two.
  13. I did not lie. In fact, I told the complete truth, I simply forgot the outcome of my actions. Venli was indirectly protected, and Liss’s and my kill landed on Darkness instead. The cycle following, I made no attempt to kill Venli, seeing that she was ostracised.
  14. To all of you saying that killing is an extreme solution, I have the following set of questions/statements: 1. How do you expect to remove suspected players? Ostracised individuals will still have access to potentially dangerous actions (and are removed to a place where we can’t further analyse them), roleblocks prevent action spies, and action spies, especially if the person knows it’s coming, are but a temporary hindrance. (So are roleblocks, really.) Meanwhile, we have five turns left to kill whoever caused the Desolation before the game ends or they’ve killed us. We can’t afford to spend that time garnering new information, but rather acting on that which we already possess. 2. I am accepting of my death. I don’t mind dying, but I will be annoyed if my objective of stopping the Desolation goes unfulfilled because I wasn’t able to act on any of my suspicions. Again, we have five turns to figure this out, and every action counts. 3. More deaths=more information regardless. It provides an efficient PoE and gives immediate feedback over whether or not somebody is guilty. If we are wrong, we are only so much closer to being right.
  15. I suspect that Klade did not action-spy me. He will certainly claim it, now that I’ve confessed, but he has no real evidence to support that, and could have easily done PoE of his own to deduce it was me. And again, do you have knowledge of your actions, or those of others, to craft a more reliable PoE? If so, that would be appreciated. The only thing that will kill us right now is inaction, and I’d like to see some of my actual suspects start dying, even if that means I die too. I’ve already said that I don’t fully trust Ialai. But I certainly don’t approve of Klade either, and to me the case against him is stronger. And I’ve said many times that Tearim can’t be ruled out, but again, he *can* be dealt with later.
  16. I’m essentially acting like every cycle is my last. With whoever is hunting the Kholins looking ready to kill me next, I thought more drastic action may have been necessary to accomplish what I believed right. Scan results are useless if I can’t share them, and after failing a wincon that deducted percentage points from my Action Spy chance, I’m not particularly inclined to use it. And, as I said, I have proof beyond “what happened historically.” PoE points towards Klade as a suspect even if I ignore canon, and unless you have something that undermines the alibis of the people I listed, it still stands, and casts Klade as the most likely suspect left (other than perhaps Tearim, and again, he’s ostracised and can be dealt with at any time). Even if attacking Klade fails, the remaining people are still down two suspects (Klade and myself), and we might actually get the game solved before the 12-cycle limit ends the game, which is looking like a real possibility the more we stall.
  17. No, I did not kill her either. I don’t even remember when she died, to be honest. I think I was still on my quest for bottles of Violet Wine at that point. I will note that I made an attempt on Venli’s life with Liss the cycle she was protected, but didn’t actually kill her.
  18. This is interesting on several levels, Klade. I could go ahead and craft a convincing, resounding denial of this accusation which seems to be unsupported by any actual evidence, merely the implication of it that is meant to convict me, based on what you likely assume are reasonable proofs that I was the one to kill you. And your conjecture, substantiated or otherwise, has merit. I have attacked you last round. (Though I did not kill Venli; that death was unrelated.) Ialai accuses me of getting cold feet. This is not entirely accurate; I would have been happy to help her, even last round when I suspected Klade, but I never received enough information to do a successful action, because she never gave enough of it to me in time (which was partly my fault, but still). So instead I attempted to protect myself (which didn’t succeed) and then tried to kill you (which did, but failed because of Kelek’s protection). And I believe I have reason for this. Consider the remaining un-ostracised players. The Heralds have alibis, at least according to Ialai, and at any rate why would they want to start a Desolation? They’re trying to hide from their eternal torment, after all. I trust them individually, and Tearim has vouched for them as a group. Individually I wouldn’t trust this evidence, but together it presents a convincing case that they aren’t starting Desolations. Jasnah is Queen, and as a Radiant has no canonical reason to want a Desolation; the opposite rather. Her alibi, and that of Ivory’s, is also supported by Ialai, and I have a moderate personal trust of them. I see no reason to suspect Desolation-causing activity from any of them. Ialai herself is interesting; I don’t particularly trust her at all, yet she strikes me as a fairly odd person to be trying to create a new Desolation. She may be trying to kill my family to become Queen, but I doubt that’s her long game, and there’s nothing linking her to the Desolation. I obviously plead innocent to the charge of facilitating a Desolation, as again, it’d be a very odd win condition for me in-character, and OOC trying to murder the eventual servants of Odium (the Parshendi) would be an odd move. Meanwhile, consider Klade. He is a Parshendi, canonically likely to begin a Desolation. We have no alibi from him, at least none that seems realistic, and by POE he stands out as the last potential suspect. (Tearim is still a possibility as a Son of Honour but he can be quickly disposed of if both Klade and I die and the Desolation still cometh.) This cycle, based on what I would suppose is conjecture, he attempts to ostracise me, one of the last two Kholins, on a cycle with no ostracisation, with a lack of corroboration and a platitude that we cannot trust; the presumption that he is innocent and should be protected. Therefore, this cycle, I propose that we roleblock and kill Klade. If nobody protects him, he can die and his true colours will be shown; if he is loyal, there is an ostracisation vote C11 that I will accept as the price of my failure to correctly predict the end of the Desolation. But if he is a traitor, we will have ended the game; I’ve gotten GM confirmation that I can stop the Desolation given the current actions available to me. @SE_Ivory @SE_Jasnah_Kholin @SE_Drunk_Beggar @SE_Ash @SE_Kelek @SE_Ialai_Sadeas
  19. As the great philosopher George Berkeley once said, “If a tree falls in a forest, and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?” A similar question was posed to me in PM by Ialai, in which she asked, “If a Desolation comes, but nobody is alive to witness it, does it still happen?” I posit that it does not. Clearly nothing is to be done right now about the uptick in murders. I’ve been trying to protect people (I protected Jasnah this cycle, successfully apparently) but it seems the killings will continue. And with nobody who I really trust still alive and un-ostracised, our numbers will continue to shrink, as I guarantee that there are some people in my PMs smiling through their teeth and killing people as I attempt to negotiate with them. Such is life, I fear, and no alibi is safe in these times (and yes, that extends to mine as well; I do not fear being questioned). Normally, I’d discuss Navani’s death, but it seems fairly unremarkable. I can see no good reason why it would have happened apart from an attack by whoever is trying to kill all the Kholins, unless Liss tried to gamble on a wincon involving her death. The attempt on Klade’s life seems similarly uninspired, with the attacker likely having an anti-Parshendi bias and trying to stop the Desolation that way (props to Kelek for saving him, by the way; I hope that finally got you your wincon). I doubt a simple massacre of our Parshendi guests, even those killing my family, will serve to stop the Desolation. Other than this, I can only say that I hope Tearim and Liss use whatever actions they have access to wisely. I know they can see this, and if they do look at it, I hope they see this warning: do not accelerate the rate of murder. I’d like to have more than one or two people left by the end of C12, and that won’t happen if you use any actions that directly or indirectly help kill people. Also Jasnah you really can’t die now because then I’d be killed for being king. Also you probably don’t want a notorious flirt trying to find a suitable royal consort
  20. We are not permitted access to the Palace Grounds doc any more, and from what Liss and I have shared with each other it seems that the actions available change every round. Therefore, Venli could have had access to nearly anything yesterday, but the only action that I personally had before that would explain the attack would be if she was allowed to use any action in the game on one of the turns. (I used mine C3 to send the rhyming anonymous message.)
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