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Mauve Crocodile
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We ask Dominion, nicely, to redirect Odium to itself. This means we would have to reveal who has Odium and reqires us to target someone to kill but as long as Dominion agrees Odium should be Shattered. It also puts one of our own at risk so we would need some protection but it's a plan to deal with all the issues that everyone seems to have. -
For what purpose? You said you have no intention of using Odium and everyone else doesn't want it used against them so Shattering it would solve all those issues.
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Yes, we have Odium. As to us sending it back, I kinda have a different idea. What would you say to Shattering Odium?
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I learnt via Hoid's Doc. They brought me into it N2 and I've been working with them since. Even kinda pushed my faction into agreeing to an alliance with Hoid and putting aside our own win con for a harder but more fun one. Adonalsium being remade in Seonids last game is something I felt was worth the extra work. Edit: Plus we got Shards so if it went belly up, we would be in a good spot.
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@Saffron Iguana, I'm confused. I thought you worked out a deal with Hoid to help you with your win cons. Hoid was to steal Shards and give them to us and your faction was to use Culty to fuse them together. You got your win con of fusing 5 Shards, We got our win con of Adonalsium being reborn and Hoid got theirs of having all Shards in one faction. Lion being lynched was part of the plan then your faction for some reason decided not to do so and started lynching me. We thought you had decided to go a different way so we stuck with stealing Odium and moved on to another plan. When you PMed me, I thought it was to try and get the first plan up and running again but the next day you were all pissed about Odium being stolen.
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They would also either need the Researcher role or be on the same planet as their target. It's possible they didn't have a viable target some nights.
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My apologies. All prey looks alike.
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I can give you one. MouseWeasel/Albatross. If I'm right, they are at least 60% towards winning. @Saffron Iguana, was someone in your faction attacked and protected during the game? Likely N4? If so, Mouse's Weasel's faction did it. They have (I suspect) the Win Con of Protecting one member from each faction from an attack/lynch. They attacked and protected Tuatara N2. We lynched a protected Mouse Weasel D2 so if one of your faction was attacked, that's 3/5 factions completed. They admitted to attacking/protecting Toucan last night so they aren't shy of attacking which is why we have been trying to whittle down their numbers. Yes, we attacked and killed Chameleon but we did it to give ourselves a fighting chance. (I've suspected a faction had that win con since Tuatara was attacked but now I know what faction it is.)
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I'm not saying it's not important. I'm just wondering why it's suddenly become this big thing. I really don't get it. It's one kill Shard out of about four. Why this one? Sure it can Shatter Shards but then Cultiviation can just reforge them.
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That's three of them but they have more. I just don't know who. About what? You know what, I don't care. I've tried to reveal what I know. If you choose to not believe me, fine. But please don't just say I'm lying without backing it up. Just say you *think* I'm lying.
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We didn't. I said quite plainly that Dragonflys faction got Odium while we were to get Devotion. No bidding war at all.
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I wish we did have Odium. As for us downplaying Odiums importance. We didn't. not really. I still don't see why it's suddenly important to find it. The Hidden Garden claims to only attack Autonomy because they figured they were a threat is even more confusing. I would think that Ruin, Endowment and Preservation would be bigger threats given they can and seem to be killing. Um, Dragonfly and co aren't part of the Utility Company. They're the Stewards of Creation.
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I'm quite willing to lynch Weasel but it's unlikely they will die and the only other member of that faction we know of is Chameleon.
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While I wouldn't mind backing off Mouse, I can't speak for the rest of Joe faction. Some think you will just change your vote at end of cycle and even if not, you can just bring Mouse back during the following Night. That's not what he told us. He told us you selected Chameleon and that's it very likely they have Devotion.
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You already knew that. That's why Dragonfly requested Chameleon be lynched and this back-stabbery is likely why they asked one of Joe faction be the first to vote for them. Yes. At our request in return for not revealing Mouse and co got Odium. And Scorpion was Returned. I have no idea. Try asking the faction with two kill Shards! Faction Joe has killed no one outside of the lynch.
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Now that's a bald face lie and you know it! Hoid told us your faction was getting Odium and we were going to get Devotion. We even asked you (via Hoid) to bring back Scorpion as a sign of good faith since you were getting a Kill Shard. Since it seems the cats out of the bag. Mouse. We were willing to work with you but it seems you're not willing to work with us now that you got what you wanted.
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But they weren't a threat before it got stolen so why now? Sorry if I'm not seeing the obvious but I'm really don't see the reason for finding who has Odium when beforehand no one really seemed to care.
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And how does them having Odium make them a threat? You have Ruin so it's an even match isn't it?
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What kind of information? I'm honestly at a bit of a loss as to who to vote for so more information is useful right now.
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Huh, looks like I was wrong about Hoid stealing Odium. Not sorry I tried to save him though as I still think Hoid can't kill/attack so him having Odium was the best option for everyone not in Odiums faction.
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What answers would it tell us? If we lynch him and he's Hoid then all we would get is his role like Khriss. It wouldn't tell us if he stole Odium unless he has it on him, it wouldn't tell us how he took two actions. Yes we could make assumptions but it wouldn't confirm or deny anything. It wouldn't tell us if he killed Khriss. It wouldn't tell us his win con. It wouldn't tell us if he has faction mates. It wouldn't tell us anything that we have been asking.
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Unless new Odium Invests this cycle too....or they pass it or something I'm not thinking of Honor, Survival?, Monk, Bondsmith, Unmade...
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But wouldn't it just shift to someone in Axolotl's faction anyway? If they are Hoid/Kelsier then it would just pass to the other one. Admittedly I'm assuming they are teamed given Khriss and Nazh seem to start on one team it would only be fair if Axolotl had a partner as well. Maybe they did but was blocked/protected.
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Pearl Chameleon. To be perfectly honest, I don't have a big reason to lynch you but I do feel that lynching someone just because they have two actions isn't really any better. The main argument against Axolotl is that Odium seems to have been stolen but there really isn't any proof of that aside from their faction saying so. But yet it wasn't until the Day round that anything was said. Why not bring it up during the night? Axolotl might be Hoid or they might be Kelsier or the might be a Shard or maybe they're this or they could be that. To me it seems people are grasping at straws trying to lynch Axo and that doesn't sit well to me.
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You could always abstain. I'm dead anyway so your vote doesn't really need to be there. Was a fun game. Good luck to you all but Weasel's team. I suspect they are playing everyone. After all, why have a lynch proof Shard and a Kill Shard on one team and go for a co-op win?
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