Magenta Albatross

Farewell Meerkat. Thanks for all the hard work. Mint Heron

Four in a row guys. We're on a roll! Also I totally missed the deadline to vote cause I went to pick up something from my friend's house and got talking and lost track of time. Thankfully it wasn't needed. Also someone either Soothed Beagle or Axolotl, or Axolotl Rioted a Smoked player.

What interactions with Cham make me suspicious to you? On day 5 when Penguin was PMing looking for info on Cham I gladly let them know what had happened in our pm D1, this was(I believe) before any votes had even been put on Cham that day. So what reason would I have for making a teammate look bad? I don't recall anything prior to that, though I could be misremembering, that connected me to Cham. Meerkat even said in one of the their last reads lists before D5 ended that if either Cham or I was elim the other was likely village.

Cham is leading 8-2 I doubt the elims could do anything about it at this point. At least without showing their hands.

Vote Count where things currently are. Gonna put my vote on Pearl Chameleon cause Penguin brought up good points and I had completely forgotten about their PMs to me until Penguin asked me about them. Also their reason for voting me currently seems to be because I survived N1. Pearl Chameleon(6): Amethyst Scorpion, Chartreuse Penguin, Azure Mouse, Quartz Zebra, Onyx Flamingo, Magenta Albatross Magenta Albatross(2): Pearl Chameleon, Salmon Meerkat Mint Heron(1): Violet Axolotl Oxblood Beagle(1): Mint Heron

So Hyena claimed he rolled Seeker N1 and scanned Falcon right? So either Hyena and Falcon lied and he sent the N1 Tineye mistborn claim, there's a second Mistborn out there who made the N1 claim, or an unknown Tineye lied and claimed Mistborn but hasn't messaged since.

So there's been a lot of high tensions and I was avoiding posting to not get dragged into things before now, and I haven't checked the thread for like 8 hours, so, wow that's a lot to take in. I remember people calling for memes earlier so here's two I whipped up. So I guess we'll have gotten two in a row, about 22 hours from now. Edit: I know other people have mentioned the image posting thing but I thought I got it right, guess not.

Well we got one. And we know we have a Rioter and Soother around. Edit: Im tired, is that just one Rioter cancelling their own vote and moving a Falcon vote to Gorilla?

Turquoise Gorilla because everyone's reasons seem sound enough to me and I don't see anyone else likely to be exed here anyway. Also going to try to avoid last minute trying to figure out what's happening this time

I retracted my Meerkat vote.

Because that's how Meerkat responded to it.

Ok, going in and analyzing the images I was unable to find any pixels with the values mentioned for the first image but since Salmon Meerkat said they had opacity at 50% it makes sense it would all be slightly off, several of the pixels were close to the specified Hexcode but not quite right, it still makes sense for them to have made that one too though. The second image was spot on, with both the dot and the 'k' in Meerkat being the specified Hexcode so I think it's guaranteed they made the second one and that's the one that mattered. Interesting ruse, hopefully we got enough info out of this to exe some elims.

I think Falcon is saying that they think Coral swan is an elim as well and it's some sort of weird ruse on they and Meerkat's part to try to make Coral seem village as being the one Meerkat slipped to. Unless I'm massively misunderstanding things.

Didn't Meerkat just, like, confess?

Uh, Salmon Meerkat

Octopus

Octopus I don't know what the VC is at self pres

I just really disliked the claim you made about the coinshot. I couldn't think of a good reason for someone to post that, because if it's true and you're village it kind of puts a target on your back for the elims, so it doesn't make sense to me for that to be the case. If it's false and you're village it still puts a target on your back, and I'm not sure what you gain from it because unless someone was 100% certain about your alignment I don't see them PMing you and saying "Hey I'm the coinshot the other person lied". And if you're elim I don't think it matters if it's true or not because then whatever motive you have is obviously evil. So basically the only way I could see someone posting that is because they knew they were safe from the elims because they were an elim. And an elim saying that has the obvious defense of saying "If I was an elim why would I say such a thing as to draw attention to myself". Those are the things that I have a problem with. I voted for you because it felt really fishy(as in wrong and weird, not that you were phishing) but no one else really seemed to care so I just took my vote off in preparation for putting it onto a more realistic shot at exe-ing an elim. Edit: Meerkat and I had some PM discussion where they claimed they are pretty sure they have ID'd you and that claim fits your apparent playstyle so they felt it was NAI and I have felt them to be pretty Village so far like a lot of the other players so I accepted it.

When I posted mine I was going to say something but then two other people posted VCs with that in there so I assumed I just missed it and included it.

Emerald Falcon as well as updated vote count Saffron Iguana(5): Emerald Falcon, Pearl Chameleon, Charcoal Hyena, Oxblood Beagle, Onyx Flamingo Onyx Flamingo(3): Mint Heron, Fuchsia Ostrich, Coral Swan Magenta Albatross(2): Amber Vulture, Turquoise Gorilla Pearl Chameleon(2): Violet Axolotl, Saffron Iguana Scarlet Octopus(1): Chartreuse Penguin Votes on a lot of people vanished again and seem to be going on Iguana and Flamingo. They both voted on Crocodile last round as well as Falcon and Ostrich, though Iguana's was self preservation, so don't really see that as too incriminating. So many people posted VC's while I was typing this up, oh well. Here's another I guess

I'm going to come back and reevaluate the situation but I really don't like that Falcon said they got a Coinshot claim. I can't think of a good reason someone would claim that role to anyone if it was true, and believing someone who claims Coinshot to you seems weird. If you have an explanation Falcon I would love to hear it. Also I don't know if Im the only one but I didn't even notice them saying that when I read their post it wasn't until someone pointed it out that I went back and saw it so it just seems weird it was so subtle/unassuming.

To address some of the things going around about me, no, I never claimed to be new I just let that assumption go without correcting it cause it's sort of true depending on how you look at it. Without going into too much detail and possibly giving away my IRL identity, I haven't played SE in a long time so as far as meta and what the norms are I have no idea, and even then I've only played a handful of games, so I still wouldn't consider myself overly experienced and some things others might know I don't necessarily, but I'm also a former tournament judge for Magic the Gathering so rules interactions and stuff like that are totally my jam. So given how much of the D1 conversations were based off of assumptions due to what has happened before I had almost no clue what was going on, but once we had information I was able to make some deductions. As was mentioned, my CR is Past Lives, so I was referencing the fact that my Anon Account had a new profile pic while making it about my CR. Role Madness is a term I legitimately don't remember seeing used before, but the term seemed fairly straight forward thus I guessed what it meant but posted it anyway in case I was incorrect. I have since looked through the General Rules and Etiquette thread to confirm some of the other phrases and abbreviations I've seen people using I was unfamiliar with. I had two posts at the beginning that were both in response to other people's assumptions about the connection between that game and this one. As with all of the other things I've said about my past games you have no way of confirming or disproving my statement but I did not play in that game and am unfamiliar with it. I'm not sure why you interpret as being well versed in what had happened in that game. It was a direct response to Iguana's and the other posts that were also in response to their initial post. In my past experience with games, I don't remember role swapping being frowned upon, so yes I was trying to do some of it so I could get information to actually be able to contribute to discussion instead of having nothing to say due to the discussion being about recent games and meta. Once Salmon Meerkat pointed out both in thread and our pm to them that roleswapping was more likely to be helpful to the elims than the village I switched my perspective on it relatively quickly because Meerkat was my biggest village read, and it seemed to echo with what other people had been saying. Since you bring up that I didn't clarify who I had been pming with, Scarlet Octopus didn't seem very interested in PMing and said they don't really roleclaim. Chartreuse Penguin and I did some discussion about things happening in thread at the time, and then said they weren't interested in roleclaiming as it was info for elims. Turqoise Gorilla and I had a short exchange that ended with them saying they like to keep their cards close to their chest as roleclaiming could be dangerous. I had a short talk with Mauve Crocodile about the fact that in RP they drank the last of my milk and took the tip I had intended for the bartender, then they asked if I wanted to roleswap which I did so I told them I was village Thug and they send they were roleless village. Salmon Meerkat and I had various discussions and they ended up saying they didn't want to roleswap. That was the extent of my early pms I referenced in that post. I also sent a pm to Iguana D1 they never responded to, and Pearl sent me a pm near the end of D1 like they did everyone else. On the topic of the contradiction between my posts saying I want to avoid vote manip and then later saying I wanted to see what info we got from potential vote manip, my only real explanation is that I didn't feel confident enough in either Gorilla or Crocodile being elim to want to force them to die, so I chose to vote Iguana and force a 3 way tie and see what we found out. Since each of the 3 had the option to self pres it also gave us information about which of the two people they were tied with they would rather see die. Sorry for long post and potentially confusing layout I just figured I needed to get something out there to explain the things people had been bringing up.

What specifically about it? That they trusted me, or didn't seem to care about Lion? Or something else I'm not seeing?

I mean who wouldn't want to be protected by a member of the Addams Family? We know we have a Mistborn, Coinshot, 3 Tineyes, 2 Rioters/Soothers(Probably but technically could just be 1 Rioter), Thug. There isn't anything that like, counters, a Tineye so there likely isn't an oddly large number of another role, we probably have a Smoker, Lurcher, Seeker, unless other oddities exist. One of the tineyes is probably evil, I think, or they could all be evil cause even more trolling. Mistborn claims to not know what they're doing, which may be accurate and they are village or they could be evil and trying to make everyone think they are good by saying that though I think some people thought Mistborn would be too strong for elims to get idk. There's also the possibility it's a total bluff and it's a Tineye claiming to be Mistborn for some reason. Also on Mistborn not sure if this is the normal rules for them but since only the first role gets rerolled on a duplicate then on night 4 it would be their 5th roll and the list doesn't reset til they get them all so from 5th night onward they would be more likely to reroll an ability than roll a new one which may or may not matter depending on how long the game goes.

Ya I was sent a message by GM after I made that post saying my life got used up. So I was not Lurched. I guess I wasn't going for intriguing, I was going for honest. The alternative would have been to lie and say I must have been Lurched which while intriguing could also prove fatal. So on day 1 some people were discussing troll role distribution, I assume 3 Tineyes counts.