Fuchsia Ostrich

Ahhh, a Psych fan. I see you are a person of culture as well

Nono lol that was me predicting who was likely to be Smoked ahead in preference to Meerkat, and the question mark is because I don't think anyone would have thought to scan you because like only me and... I think Falcon? were suspicious of you last cycle, so you'd prooooobably not be Smoked ahead of Salmon [hehe Smoked Salmon ] but it was in doubt, hence the question mark

More trusted - [Swan, Penguin] More dangerous - [Hyena, Vulture] More likely scan target (due to vote and thread stuff) - [Gorilla, Chameleon, Albatross, Flamingo?]

Anyway, moving on, we've got implications of the scan because IF the scan result is correct, we've got two scenarios - Elims do not have Smokers [in which case well we don't need to be bothered] OR Elims have a much more... trusted? more dangerous? more obvious scan target whom they are Smoking.... And if it is the second case, we've now got a baseline to guess who they are trying to hide more than Meerkat [who is, of course, not who we all think he is ]

-_-'

Sure, but it's still more likely you'd go for single Ocho kill [for whatever reason] than a double kill because there's no point in wasting 2 kills on someone you theorize elims know is a Thug. Numerical superiority wins the game of elims, so wasting kills on a Thug doesn't make sense. Anyway now, you're clearly trying to derail our discussion with not-so important issues and you're doing the "hey you missed this point" and then trying to give out alternate scenarios so I'll be not entertaining those, okay?

violet, don't listen to meerkat just because they have a cute pfp *sighhh*

stop if you thought ocho was a thug you'd avoid hitting them + they just survived an elimination, there'd be chance they'd be up for it again, so no the second kill wasn't from your end

uh what gambit?

Okay see the Octopus is a weird option for both the elims and the Coinshot because - elims just proved the last cycle vote was v/v between Iguana and Octopus and... why would Coinshot even choose Octopus [for that record I'm looking at all voters of Octopus last cycle because from my perspective there was nothing incriminating about them]. Feel good about Salmon Meerkat more so because it is supported by the fact that the Octopus push was weird before backing off.

Ah right, my bad, I interpreted that as suspicion on Octopus for going off the main train and hiding in side-trains. In that case, it would be irrelevant because when the side train became main train, their purpose of doing so to hide is lost. Hey Iguana, I wanted to say this in my previous post, but loving those puns! Keep 'em coming! (er, if we don't kill you this cycle, that is ) I didn't imply this anywhere, did I? Because I don't mean to, Meerkat would never do this. Anything I haven't explicitly explained, it's just a gut read.

Okay I totally checked out of the game after my 2 posts and only came back to check the results, but now I'm caught up and this is basically my jumbled thoughts on everything till now - First off, why is everyone praising Ja Rule? Eminem dissed his career off way back in 2006 Okok, jumbled thoughts, here we go - Penguin is village. Accumulation of all posts + attention to detail wrt Hyena ("why would you say you pre-wrote the posts even if you did?") Heron very village wrt last post. Particularly the Flamingo part, because I was about to bring Onyx to notice myself. In addition to Heron's points, after Onyx's vote, Mauve responds giving reasons/explanations to Onyx's suspicions but Onyx does not react to that at all, even though they post after that. If they believed the explanation was insufficient, they would have told so and firmed their vote. But the fact that they didn't do this reads to me like they are trying to make sure their vote goes unseen and does not raise too much noise. They ignore Onyx's defense, make sure their vote stays and Mauve dies. Note that at this point the score was 3-2-2 [Gorilla, Croc, Iguana] and Onyx puts Croc on level terms with Gorilla. Possible Gorilla/Flamingo team here. Not entertaining a vote on Octopus as of now, leaning village primarily with accumulation of posts + gut, will re-read in iso-mode later to prove or disprove this read. Not entirely sure about Meerkat here, A* for game solving but some pushes have been weird ["if e mentions e teammate as e read why won't they follow through" argument with.. Pearl? Or Iguana? I don't seem to recall correctly but my opinion is obviously trying to look good if your e teammate flips without particularly endangering them by voting. This has now become too large to justify the use of square brackets but I'll continue on anyway. The other time I felt weird was their push on Octopus this cycle. They basically say Octopus moved from Chameleon (alignment unknown) to Gorilla (alignment unknown) to put Swan in the lead (again, alignment unknown). Stresses on the fact Octopus put Gorilla on the side-train but that doesn't matter now, does it? Because Gorilla ended up being one of the main trains and Octopus ended staying on Gorilla train. That push felt weird. I'm still leaning mildly village towards Meerkat, all these are... things that are wrong in that villageriness. Not leaning either way on Hyena, my main point of disagreement - their conclusion that Iguana feels more evil than Gorilla whereas I feel like they're equally evil. Someone mentioned this but when it was 3-3-3 and Gorilla voted for Iguana, Iguana did not self-pres vote back at Gorilla but voted for Crocodile instead [whoever mentioned this please let me know and link that post, I need to give you village points ] . To explain this a bit further, at 3-3-3 Gorilla has to choice between voting for Crocodile or Iguana, and they choose Iguana citing Croc as their top village trust [I need to check if they mention it before but if they did, then they'd want to keep it consistent and voting for Croc would change that. In case Iguana was their evil teammate, then they'd know there's a vote manip on its way and voting on them would be fine]. This post here, Iguana asks for a compromise from Gorilla and a vote on Croc, which is weird because Gorilla's just mentioned that Croc is their highest trust read. 4-4-3 is the score and [if they're evil] they know that with evil vote manip, Mauve dies. That's when Scorpion votes for Gorilla so I'm not quite understanding where the vote cancel on Gorilla came from? You know what, the more I think about it the more it seems waaaay too elaborate and it's making my head hurt. I'll take a break from these two and come back to them later, but basically they're in conversation for today's vote for me. Need to re-read in iso-mode later. Coming back to Hyena, I felt like there was a difference in the way they approached the two ISOs, biased towards Iguana, making the conclusion seem like they are more evil than Gorilla. Don't have any evidence to back this, but just the feel I got reading the ISOs. Albatross Argument meh, was evil reading them based on posts, now not leaning any particular way after getting Shot, could be evil Thug but that'll be more evident as the game goes on and we figure out evil team composition. They are right though, they haven't explicitly mentioned they were new anywhere, we just saw one post and ran with it. Were they overplaying this or just letting us assume? Albatross PM'ers, can you answer this? Swan, I think they're village. Nothing particular stood out about them for me in my readthrough. Perhaps, that should be concerning eh? Need closer look. That "I donno who PM'd me" bit was odd from Falcon but other than that I think they've been good Vulture with their typical tabular column analysis, remember both agreeing and disagreeing with conclusions drawn from post so no alignment indication about them [I think I disagreed about them finding stuff about Octopus evil]. A D1 vote would have given a better idea about them. OH WAIT I'VE JUST NOTICED AMBER VULTURE PFP IN DETAIL, WHO IS THAT PERSON WHO MADE THAT? ARE YOU A HUGE FRINGE FAN?? BECAUSE THAT VULTURE IS TRAPPED IN THE AMBER-LIKE SUBSTANCE FROM FRINGE!!! I'm a huge fan of the show lol, anyway bifurcating - Good - Penguin, Swan, Scorpion (revisit IF Iguana is evil WITHOUT Gorilla), Falcon, Heron, Meerkat, Octopus, Axolotl ???? - Vulture, Mouse, Hyena, Dragonfly, Albatross, Chameleon, Rhino, Zebra, Elephant, Toucan Bad - Dingo, Flamingo, Beagle, Iguana, Gorilla I realized I haven't spoken about Chameleon. Stuff from Chameleon, Iguana and Swan are all jumbled in my head so again, marking it for revisit. Voting for Flamingo until I figure out Gorilla/Iguana stuff, which is conditional, and trying to figure out their EoD ended up confusing me. More sure of Flamingo's shadiness at EoD. Positions of anyone else I have not explained is basically gut.

Me about to guess Charcoal Hyena is Fifth only to find to Fifth is IMing... Anyway, my interactions will be limited for a couple of days, irl stuff, hoping it'll get better as game goes along. Have skimmed through and got gut reads - Freddieeee, what are we doing heree?? We're here to find bad guys, Bane. And eat them? No, Bane. We're going to uncover the and write about it in our newspaper. And then eat them? *sigh* Fine, maaaaybe and then eat them. Now, shush, I've found a guy who's seems like a decent guy. "Hey, @Coral Swan, why do you have Mauve Crocodile as your top village read? I'm gut reading them as evil and I can't pinpoint exactly what it is, but something feels off about their posts. I don't like their first vote on Chameleon either." Fredddiee, can we eat Crocodile? Shhh, Bane, no! We aren't sure if he's a bad guy yet. What about that guy over there? Octopus? I actually think he's one of the good ones. And no, Bane. I know they have like, 9 brains but you cannot eat them. *grumble grumble* Fine *grumble grumble*

Freddieeeeee, I'm hungryyyyy! Where can we find some brainsssssss? Shhhh, shut up Bane! We have to blend in! Fredddyyyy, I'll let you blend in once we eat some bad guys, I need brainsssss Freddyyyy! How about you shut up, and I'll find your some sheep to eat later? WHAT HAVE I TOLD YOU FREDDIEE? SHEEP BRAINSS DON'T TASTE AS GOOOOOD AS *SSSSSLURP* HUMAN BRAINSSS You want me to just ration you to chocolate? No! Freddie, alright I'll go in, I'll be good. Just, find me the good stuff quick, Freddie! *sigh*" What was I thinking, having another living being inside me? That it would be easy??? Symbiote? This thing is always annoying me, where's the symbiosis???" Hahahahahahaha, I love you too Freddie! Iguana, LG74 was an exception rather than the norm for Tyrian Falls meta. Each game is unique but more so because it had a different GM than the ones who run AG always, and the GMs always try to mix it up and keep us guessing and entertained. 5,6,7 doesn't matter - infiltrate the dealer, find the supplier With reference to notable stuff in posts so far, some very obvious stuff about Coinshot by Pearl Chameleon.

To the person that had this account before me: I did not appreciate logging in to 83 notifications because you followed the SE forum. The PMs were interesting, though. Apparently, this anon is the former Vessel of Odium. @Steeldancer, does a used gemstone count as a gemstone for the purposes of nimbleform? If you enter mateform, take another form, and go back to mateform, do you get another PM? Do accusations have to be framed as "I accuse" for the purposes of meditationform? What counts as an action? Mateform seems the superior initial form as its effect is permanent. Warform seems a good option to take but not use until the late game. Artform, while good for conveying information, seems somewhat useless before that point. Scholarform is quite good when gemstone reserves run low. Nimbleform is only useful when the action economy becomes scarce, which I don't see a reason for. Workform seems a bit selfish. Meditationform seems valuable, particularly since someone surviving the lynch tends to give the prosecutor tunnel vision. No roles allow for scanning of the role itself (merely the action), so I plan to act in a manner that implies the potential existence of any role in future cycles. Echelon trudged along, trying to find the Rhythms. Dullform was thick and slow, and the Rhythms seemed so far away. They had brought gems, but he couldn't use one until they got far enough from Odium. There were enemies nearby. They had been followed. Nowhere was safe. Even worse, Mavset-Im could conquer a body. No one could be trusted. No one was safe. But they would be free. That was worth it. Any price was worth the chance. Even death. Especially death. In death, they would be free. In life, they would be hunted. There is always a way out.

"Whoa whoa whoa, where are you getting those goals from? I just want 12 specific things broken, and I've already gotten like half of them! Dingo on the other hand, they killed 22% of the entire Cosmere's population! That amount of power in the hand of of an individual is too much! That's *why* i'm trying to break them!"

"Maybe you'd be something like an Inspiration? Showcasing Valor to encourage others to act Autonomosly? Also, before i forget, Melon Dingo blew up 2 planets! I've only killed a few people. Which of us is the real villain here, huh?"

"I'm 13. I can't count that High."

@Opal Lion

"Parent, you did not take the correct precautions. Did you think that Taldain would not protect me from roleblocks?"

"I sleep now. I imagine I'll be the only one sleeping with both eyes closed."

"Speaking of, you never did give me the PM's with my parents I asked for. You're terrible at being Prudence."

"We didn't think we'd need one yet, can you just set it up please?"

"Children need a creative outlet to express their emotions in order to grow up healthy and mentally stable. My emotions are love, and Daddy Rayse taught me that murder and terror are good ways to express that."

"Ah fiddlesticks. I was counting on inactivity to kill you. Now I have to kill two parents tonight."