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"So they outnumber us and outgun us?"

"So what are the main barriers that stand in the way of our goal of causing a revolt and controlling the universe?"

It is true. You can never know that anyone besides yourself is real. What if I am just a being of higher consciousness dreaming the world? TPBM has died at least once (metaphorically speaking).

"I see a city!" declared Echo Four spontaneously. And indeed, within Echo Six's projection was contained the image of a small metropolis. Skyscrapers rose into the heavens, grubby with the smoke from factories at the cities edge. Sleek silver carriages ran light as air over tarnished bronze tracks. Everywhere you looked, there were soldiers clad in futuristic black armor wielding terrifying weaponry. They stood guard at corners, marched in tight rows down the streets, and herded groups of downcast citizens from place to place. They were of no one race or species; the majority seemed to of the same kindred as those in chains. "Oh!" declared Echo Seven softly. "They are in pain."

"How does one back up an empire?"

"So how do you intend to secure this universe?"

"Securing this universe would provide a safe headquarters if we could pull it off."

"That is a lot of guns!" exclaimed Echo Four's voice from Echo Six. "They sure aren't messing around." "Any information we can gather will be vital!" "I would like to know what the plan currently is," stated Echo Three. "The end goal is obviously to cause the Empire to cease to exist, but what instrumental goals have you set? Which are you working towards at the moment?"

"How long would that take?" Echo Three sighed. "Never mind. If it's bad, It'd be better to do it ourselves. Echo Four, do you feel like going on an adventure?" Echo Four's eyes lit up, and he shot through the ceiling. "He will fly around the world. Echo Six, you make note of everything he sees."

Echo Six nodded and created a rough picture of a crystal gun. Echo Three snapped his fingers. "A map of the planet. You have that, right?"

"What magic systems do they have access to?"

"Well, stop underselling yourself then," declared Three. "What is the nature of the forces here, to the best of your knowledge?"

"The world is here? Also, you said that you didn't know the nature of the forces here."

"Well, you can't do anything without information. Not effectively."

"I thought the plan was to attack the world that their entire empire depends on. That's hardly small."

"I thought you said you had been doing this for years?"

"My assessment of the situation is that you have approximately a zero percent chance of taking down the Empire with the information you now have. Know your enemy is one of the first rules of war, after all."

"You... you can't even travel between universes?"

"You can't hide something behind an edited newspaper!" piped up Echo Four. "It's a physical copy, so you can just find the old edition!" "Compared to the infinity of Universes, the Clan is nothing," pointed out Echo Three. "There must exist information about the Empire outside of the Empire that the Empire is not able to control. And given that the majority of what is now the Empire was once not the Empire, that information should contain several pertinent details."

"The amount of information of information you lack is beyond imperfect- it is baffling. How do you not know the nature of the forces that exist right next to you? Can't you watch them in action?"