Scion of the Mists

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I haven't seen anywhere that the Fools are the Heralds, just that they correspond to the Heralds.  

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/194-general-reddit-2011/#e4157

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gunslingers

The number 10 seems to be a recurring theme in this world. Are the "ten fools" the antithesis of the ten orders of the knights radiant?

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, ten is a number of mythological import in the world. The Ten Fools are, essentially, the opposites of the Ten Heralds--who each represented an ideal. (Those ideals were later adopted by the orders of Knights Radiant, so yes, there is a connection--but there's a step between them.)

I'd like to play.  I can also be a spymaster, if necessary (I own Codenames IRL).  

9 hours ago, TheWarriorPoet said:

Hmm ok, but he is powerful enough to fight shards. Since it is said that he came on roshar to hunt an old acquaintance but is now hiding (ref to Odium) so he is definitely powerful 

Hoid is certainly not powerful enough to fight a shard. There’s a difference between working against somebody (e.g. undermining their plans, etc.) and actually going mono a mono. 

31 minutes ago, mosaab said:

when jasnah dies and everyone react like a shipment of food was lost, and not that the kings sister has been murdered.

Did you read Words of Radiance? Navani refused to even talk to Shallan after she broke the news. 

8 hours ago, coppercloud said:

I've also seen in other threads that's there's is  a WoB of it also being related to hemalergy , I think instead of the blade just severing his body And soul sending him back to braiz , his soul or the oathpackt itself is what was sucked into the sapphire instead of being sucked into the metal . A combo shardblade healergy spike . 

He said it’s similar but not quite the same.  I agree that this is the mechanism by which Odium is attempting to break the Oathpact.

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kalamitous_emoashions [PENDING REVIEW]

Have we seen any evidence of Hemalurgy on Roshar? And, as sort of an addendum, given the end of Oathbringer, was what happened to Jezrien Hemalurgy?

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

There are certain cosmere philosophers that would count it. I would divide it as two separate things that are using similar fundamentals. I wouldn't call it myself, but there are people who would disagree with me in-world. Have we seen evidence? I would say no evidence that is easy to pick out.

kalamitous_emoashions [PENDING REVIEW]

But it's there?

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

Yes, there are people with Hemalurgy who have been to Roshar. I'm pretty sure they've been on-screen.

 

I agree that the dagger is likely made from Odium’s god metal, although we don’t have confirmation. 

We do, however, have a WOB that there’s a different gemstone for each Herald. 

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Hoidonalsium [PENDING REVIEW]

Is the sapphire in the white-gold blade specifically for Jezrien?

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

Uh, yes.

 

On 12/9/2017 at 3:55 PM, NotBurtReynolds said:

Brandon Sanderson

Um, that, I will give a "that's a very good guess." And that is what the books seem to indicate is happening.

I think that this is too obvious to be the main storyline behind the Cosmere.  I think that Brandon's quote also points to it being a red herring.  

7 minutes ago, Brightlord Brooding Eyes said:

14 minutes ago, Chinsukolo said:

I have nothing to base it on other than my gut - but I wonder if SA ends with Shard mergers instead of shattering.   I.e. Cultivation, Odium, and the splintered Honor are all absorbed and merged into Unity -with a capital U.  Thus Rayse is defeated, but not through - what I had assumed would come, previously - shattering, but through merging a less angry shard(s).

My gut agrees with your gut, but would this be too similar to Mistborn? Preservation + Ruin = Harmony? Cultivation + Odium + (Honor) = Unity?

It's an interesting idea, but it would take away the (current) primary antagonist in the cosmere: Odium.  What would that leave for the Cosmere finale?  

5 minutes ago, Alzabar said:

So Queen Aesudan swallows the gem in Kholinar, but Kaladin and gang escape. Next the gem is with Odium, and he says something about the gem consuming if not controlled, and we can assume Aesudan was consumed, sure. So being consumed literally means your whole body? Otherwise why is the unmade still in the gem, why has nobody released him yet? Why was he not released when there were two other unmade in Kholinar?

Yelig-nar was not kept inside the gemstone, he just needs the stone to be inside of someone in order to manifest himself in the Physical Realm.  

There are multiple threads speculating about the fate of Queen Aesudan.  I believe she's gone completely.  

31 minutes ago, Landis963 said:

2 hours ago, Kered said:

Do we know who it is that Brandon is referring to? I think think of anything off the top of my head. 

Probably Odium referring to himself as "Passion."  Which is technically true, I will admit, but only under a very specific frame of reference that - to put it mildly - doesn't hold up under scrutiny.

I think that Odium is lying when he describes his intent as Passion.  He's using it as a euphemism to make himself seem less evil.  

The only other thing I can think of is sort of the reverse: a shard corrupting its holder (Ati once being a "kind and generous man").  

On 12/19/2017 at 6:51 PM, The One Who Connects said:

Sel has nearly 2 millennia to modernize from what we see in Elantris until we reach the time of SA, and they don't really have much/any Shardic conflict to screw with it. Look at how far Earth has gotten in the last 2,000 years, add magic, and tell me that Selish society shouldn't already be wandering the cosmos.

This isn't really related to the Five Scholars at all, but I would argue that magic actually would have the opposite effect.  The ease by which magic allows you to accomplish things can interfere with normal technological development.  Similar to how (Mistborn Era 2 spoilers)

20 hours ago, 1stBondsmith said:

If the cognitive shadows can travel, like Kelsier, through Shadesmar, other worlds could be threatened.

So, it's actually very difficult for splinters/cognitive shadows to leave their world.  WOB

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Questioner [PENDING REVIEW]

Do Spinters require proximity to their Shards?

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Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

You see it with the-- I would call most Cognitive Shadows a Splinter in some ways. And you see it when Kelsier tries to leave, right. And spren would have the same trouble, and seons would have the same trouble. But at the same time is that a proximity to the Shard? Kind of. Things get very wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey when you start dealing with the nature of the Spiritual Realm in the cosmere. 

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Questioner [PENDING REVIEW]

Could a Threnody Shade survive on another world?

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

Theoretically, yes. But they are highly Invested, and leaving a world where you're highly Invested behind when you have that Investiture is difficult, as Kelsier discovered, and as most spren discover.

You do raise an interesting point about Rosharan magic being used off world.  Regular surgebinding wouldn't work well, as you'd quickly run out of Stormlight.  However, whatever it is that the Fused do (voidbinding or corrupted surgebinding) is powered (presumably) by voidlight, which we really don't know much about.  I wonder if the mechanism by which they're getting voidlight would work off world?  

It seems like this could be the mechanism by which Odium shatters shards.  If the shards were somehow heavily invested in a planet/moon, and that body was destroyed, forming an asteroid belt.  They could be literally shattered.  

25 minutes ago, Kered said:

 

1 hour ago, StormingTexan said:

@Scion of the Mists coincidentally Harmony is a synonym for Unity.

I like where you're going with that. 

I actually  have no Idea where you're going with that.  Harmony being a synonym for Unity would actually be evidence against it being a new merged shard.  Because then there would be multiple shards with the same intent, which doesn't seem likely.  

44 minutes ago, StormingTexan said:

A shard does not change it's intent upon having a new vessel so if Unity is an intent then it is in fact a melding of shards like Harmony.

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Questioner [PENDING REVIEW]

We know <Ati chose how Ruin was interpreted, in that he was> a card-cackling maniac. Could someone so differently interpret a Shard as to change its name to be something different? Could someone pick up the Shard of Ruin and think I'm the Shard of Change?

Brandon Sanderson [PENDING REVIEW]

Yes. To an extent. The interpretation, what you call a thing... I think it would be arguable either way in-world, regardless of what they call themselves. There are those who would say the core intent is still there and you can't shift it that far, and others would argue you can shift it far enough to change the definition to a synonym. You see evidence of someone claiming this in the books. I'm not gonna confirm or deny for you whether that is actually a thing or not.

A common theory is that Shalash somehow becomes a Dustbringer.  Remember that the Heralds without their honorblades are no longer surgebinders.  

19 hours ago, .S.A.M.K.M said:

Being a herald allowed you to surge bind without a spren, so they never had shard plate either. I wonder what happens if the honor blades are wielded by knight radiants. The combination of power might have a unique effect.

Honorblades wielded by Knights Radiant would either grant access to new surges, or slightly enhance existing surges.  WOB

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Questioner (paraphrased)

If a non-Windrunner picked up Jezrien's Honorblade would they gain Windrunner powers as well?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

Yes.

Questioner (paraphrased)

If a Windrunner picked up that blade, would their abilities be enhanced?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

There would be some compounding but strength is not as much an issue with Surgebinding as is the strength of the spren bond and how much Stormlight you are using.

 

On 12/2/2017 at 4:43 PM, Radiant Returned said:

Also, we know Vasher came to Roshar looking for Nightblood, he says as much in WoR I believe. We also know Vivenna/Azure is looking for Nightblood and Vasher (though it's possible that she's just looking for Vasher because she thinks he has Nightblood). 

We have a WOB that Vasher came to Roshar with Nightblood, and then was separated after:

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AllomancerSam (paraphrased)

Were Vasher and Nightblood were separated before or after coming to Roshar?

Brandon Sanderson (paraphrased)

After hesitating for a minute, he said that they were separated after.

 

We have a WOB that you don't necessarily have to literally inhale to intake Stormlight, so it's possible that Nale's doing something like that.  

https://wob.coppermind.net/events/35-arcanum-unbounded-hoboken-signing/#e2533

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yulerule

One quick one: Stormlight breathing. Do you actually need to physically inhale or can you cognitively inhale? Like I can think about inhaling without actually inhaling?

Brandon Sanderson

You-- this is possible, and--

yulerule

Okay, like if you're trapped and you can't breath, but you can think about breathing.

Brandon Sanderson

Yeah, yeah. That would be fine.

 

Brandon has said that he considers Warbreaker to be a prequel to Stormlight.  That's why there's so many "cross-overs."

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Questioner

Why so many characters from Warbreaker [in Stormlight]?

Brandon Sanderson

'Cause Warbreaker is a prequel to Stormlight. I wrote Stormlight first, and then I actually went and wrote Warbreaker about Kaladin's swordmaster, but then that portion of Stormlight didn't get published, and this one did, but they're very interconnected to me.

 

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38 minutes ago, king of nowhere said:

I reiterate, it is a matter of how much power is being irradiated. the microwave oven heats stuff up because it generally uses 800 watts or more. A strong lamp uses 100 watts. If you put a lamp making visible light inside a microwave oven and powered it with 800 watts, it would heat the food just as much. if you pointed a 100 W microwave lamp against a person, it would do no more harm than a 100 W floodlight. It's watts that matters for energy transfer, not wavelenght. wavelength matters for potential dna damage, and as I said, even with gamma rays a lethal dose takes up a fair amount of power.

Microwave heating and visible light heating work by very different mechanisms (see dielectric heating), so the wavelength does matter.  The main reason is that the wavelength affects the penetration distance, so microwaves can get at your insides, while visible light is almost completely absorbed by your skin.  Microwave burns are a very real thing (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_burn).  In fact, there exist non-lethal microwave weapon systems.