Prelude

1. I had just got a Kindle and was looking for something to read. I found WoK. The avalanche was like nothing I have ever read. 2. He can really close a book. The emotional payoffs are exquisite. I also enjoy it's not filled with vulgarity of any sort. 3. Stormlight Archive 4. 6 5. 8

Cool and rational. I find her a refreshing female character. I don't understand why it's assumed she must be a lesbian. I know several woman that are not married or in a relationship who are not lesbians. Some people just chose to be alone.

I see a big problem with Andolin's handling of the murder of Sadeas after the fact. Hides, distracts, lies, and wastes manpower and resources to find the truth about what he already knows. That sounds as dark to me.

Wayne. Most annoying. He feels cartoonish without being funny. To me. I doubt I finish the series.

Jeff Wheeler. Kingsfountain series. And if you have Amazon Prime you can read his books for free. Clean fantasy.

Honestly Jasnah (and Kaladin of course) maybe the reason I keep on reading the series. And since we won’t see her flashbacks until book 10(?) looks like I will have too. I am firmly more than ever (now that I don’t really care for Shallan) a Jasnah fan.

So looks like Shallan/Veil/Radiant will continue in SA4. I’m so nervous about this. Will BS normalize this behavior and we are to just be ok with the way Shallan and Andolin are handling it. Why does it feel I’m in the minority thinking all stinks. Where there was anticipation with Oathbringer now there is just trepidation for SA4. I won’t be ok with this even if everything else is Stormlight.

Bridge Four carrying the bridge one last time.

I don’t dislike Andolin as a character as he can be unwittingly adorable and has a heart of gold. I did think we were heading to a darker Andolin with the ending of Wor. Maybe still? Anyone have any thoughts how he will respond if Dalinar ( does the right thing) and comes clean with his boys how their mom died? Surely surely this won’t just be glossed over as the murder of Sadeas.

Love this thread! Excuse me while I go make some coffee to sip whilst I catch up.

Andolin knows Shallan? It wasn’t him who picked up on what Shallan was doing when she was attempting to draw (was it?) shame spren. We get several little hints of Kal discerning Shallans movtiations. BS never shows us from Andolins POV where we see that he knows he beyond what she shows him.

If I open SA4 and Shallan has her hand on a burgeoning baby bump I may throw the book across the room. I am a mom with three beautiful kids. Kids don’t fix martial relationship problems if anything I believe they shine lights on the problems. I shudder to think there being a kid with Shallan as a mom. How confusing would it be for the poor kid. Who is mom today? And I don’t know. What if while being intimate with Shallan Veil bleeds through and is like bored and if it’s Radient rolls her eyes at Andolin in the moment. I never got the sense she really gained any control over them. Just saying My comment maybe really random to the progression of the thread. I’m really tired with getting no sleep over this book and telling you all now I’m not as smart as you all. So thanks again for letting my chime in random not well written thoughts.

@AubreyWrites thanks! I’ve been reading for days now on this forum. I pretty much agree with all you have written and it is far better than what I could express. It helped to know I wasn’t alone in my thinking and that Reddit is not the place to be ha!

So new member here (wave). I have been to this forum before but never thought about making an account where I would actually say anything but OB has me all upset and worried so here I am. I became a Shalladin shipper bc of how obvious BS seemed to write their inevitable pairing. I honestly didn’t even think about it in Wok but their first scene together in Wor I was hooked. In OB it felt like BS went out of his way to make the characters not interact. The flight to TC I was giddy in anticipation and then there was nothing. Zero. I found it so distracting and my heart began to sink. I can’t believe anyone would see Shallan and Andolins relationship has healthy. I found the whole “drinking buddies” very jarring and if BS normalizes this in SA4 I will definitely be looking at his work in a different light. The boat scene was the only time I felt like I recognized Shallan. The Shallan from Wor. Maybe just me being too baised. Sorry I know this has all been said before but for my own state of mine I had to voice my displeasure . I just finished OB and have to say the ending (well more the writing kept me awake for hours). I want to be hopeful but I am really so nervous BS isn’t the writer I thought he was. Sorry again for the rehash but this was for my own sanity.