Blackwarder

Am I the only one who feels like in some way Skyward conception was “hmmm, I miss Vin, and shipping her with Kaladin would be fun!”? 
 

5 hours ago, Use the Falchion said:

 

I agree with every word you wrote Falchion.

I really enjoyed it, way more than I expected.

15 hours ago, Zoey said:

They are stated to be a mix of Honor and Cultivation, iirc. But yes, they are a Godmetal.  Just not pure Tanavastium or Koravarium. But some mixture. Not sure what that would be as there isn't a Vessel for that fusion. 

That’s a very good point that I haven’t thought about, do you reckon that each order color is a matter of different ratios between Tanavastium and Koravarium, and if so would Glys, Renarins’ spren, in shardform would be a mixture of all three god metal? Would Renrin colors would be different than ordinary truthwatchers?

So many question.

On 2021-11-16 at 11:06 PM, Could Be Fire said:

I really like this! It would synergize well with both the missing old Cyontics and Spensa being stuck in Nowhere. Like maybe we'll see her start to see the initially parts of the transformation.

Alas, I was wrong.

You win some you lose some

I’m pretty sure that shardblades and plates are solid stormlight. The condensation on the blades is actually the stormlight going from gas through liquid and than solid.

On 2021-11-16 at 10:12 PM, Could Be Fire said:

Honestly, I'm hoping it will be more of an outside character than him or Lirin though. Currently, the Bondsmith power is insanely concentrated in the Kholins, and I would like to see someone who can, not oppose them necessarily, but provide more balance. Navani and Dalinar are good people, but they still have major faults and their history as the paragon of Alethi supremacy can't be ignored. From a narrative perspective, since Navani and Dalinar are so connected I'd expect the last Bondsmith to be an outsider.

I can’t think of someone more suited to be a pain in Kholins’ ass than Lirin tbh.

He is the most un-Alethi Alethi in all of Roshar, I mean we are talking about a pacifist Alethi, and a stubborn one to boot.

It actually came up in a different thread so I’ll just quote my theory.

On 2021-11-11 at 9:56 PM, Blackwarder said:

Airsick lowlanders, you are all clearly mistaken.

If Lirin is going to bond any spern it will be the Nightwatcher.

And he is going to bond her in the next book (if he ever going to bond a spern).

Quote

 

“Don’t play the sixth fool, Father,” Kaladin said. “You can’t let them take you after this.”
“I can and will!” Lirin shouted, standing up. “Because I will take responsibility for what I’ve done! I will work within whatever confines I must in order to protect people! I have taken oaths not to harm!”

Excerpt From
Rhythm of War
Brandon Sanderson
https://books.apple.com/us/book/rhythm-of-war/id1489970175
This material may be protected by copyright.

 

 

Bondsmith aren’t as malleable as other radiant, they have a strong moral compass that help them set a path to others, be it Dalinar as a warleader and politician or Navani with her pursuit of technology and the betterment of mankind ( and by the end of RoW sprenkind when I come to think about it), the relationship between a godspren and its Bondsmith requires a very strong will to succeed.

Now, do we know someone who’s interested in healing, have a very strong will and a moral compass you can set Roshars’ magnetic north with it? Enters Lirin.

And having a Bondsmith for a father and Kaladin as a brother will set little Ordeon nicely for the back 5.

Two years from now, you all will either congratulate me or resurrect this thread to make me eat my hat

On 2021-11-11 at 11:18 PM, Letryx13 said:

Uh, I hate to break it to you, but the next sentence after the one you boldened in that quote supports Lirin being a WindRunner. 

On 2021-11-12 at 4:48 PM, Blackwarder said:

Nah, it’s a small p and there is a difference between taking an oath not to do harm and taking one to protect, one is passive the other is more active.

I agree that each and everyone of Kaladins’ oaths have been essentially things his father already told him but that doesn’t mean that Lirin will end up being a Windrunner. Let’s think about it this way, Kaladins’ journey has been the predicted dissonance between the soldier and the surgeon and through that time Lirin has been representing the surgeon in Kals’ psyche. In the end Kal find peace by realizing that they are both right, each in their own way, but they are different.

I highly doubt Lirin will become a Windrunner, storywise it’s redundant and uninteresting, I don’t think that we have time to see Lirin struggle with the fact that sometimes you have to kill in order to protect, and besides I don’t think he is capable of crossing that particular obstacle.

If Lirin will bond a spren I think one of the things Brandon will use him will be to show us how the similar oaths/intentions can be so similar and yet so different that they “click” with other kinds of sprens, sort of like how The Lopen is used to show us that the oaths have dipper meaning that are not the same for each knight within the same order but on the entire spectrum of orders not just within one order.

 

35 minutes ago, Letryx13 said:

I suppose it's possible. But I don't think there's any evidence to support them having that level of power. Or am I forgetting something?

Whos’ level of power? The unmade?

If you mean the singers than I’m sure we will find out that Ulim was there all along whispering instructions from Odium.

17 hours ago, Letryx13 said:

Uh, I hate to break it to you, but the next sentence after the one you boldened in that quote supports Lirin being a WindRunner. 

Nah, it’s a small p and there is a difference between taking an oath not to do harm and taking one to protect, one is passive the other is more active.

I agree that each and everyone of Kaladins’ oaths have been essentially things his father already told him but that doesn’t mean that Lirin will end up being a Windrunner. Let’s think about it this way, Kaladins’ journey has been the predicted dissonance between the soldier and the surgeon and through that time Lirin has been representing the surgeon in Kals’ psyche. In the end Kal find peace by realizing that they are both right, each in their own way, but they are different.

I highly doubt Lirin will become a Windrunner, storywise it’s redundant and uninteresting, I don’t think that we have time to see Lirin struggle with the fact that sometimes you have to kill in order to protect, and besides I don’t think he is capable of crossing that particular obstacle.

If Lirin will bond a spren I think one of the things Brandon will use him will be to show us how the similar oaths/intentions can be so similar and yet so different that they “click” with other kinds of sprens, sort of like how The Lopen is used to show us that the oaths have dipper meaning that are not the same for each knight within the same order but on the entire spectrum of orders not just within one order.

Airsick lowlanders, you are all clearly mistaken.

If Lirin is going to bond any spern it will be the Nightwatcher.

And he is going to bond her in the next book (if he ever going to bond a spern).

Quote

 

“Don’t play the sixth fool, Father,” Kaladin said. “You can’t let them take you after this.”
“I can and will!” Lirin shouted, standing up. “Because I will take responsibility for what I’ve done! I will work within whatever confines I must in order to protect people! I have taken oaths not to harm!”

Excerpt From
Rhythm of War
Brandon Sanderson
https://books.apple.com/us/book/rhythm-of-war/id1489970175
This material may be protected by copyright.

 

Bondsmith aren’t as malleable as other radiant, they have a strong moral compass that help them set a path to others, be it Dalinar as a warleader and politician or Navani with her pursuit of technology and the betterment of mankind ( and by the end of RoW sprenkind when I come to think about it), the relationship between a godspren and its Bondsmith requires a very strong will to succeed.

Now, do we know someone who’s interested in healing, have a very strong will and a moral compass you can set Roshars’ magnetic north with it? Enters Lirin.

And having a Bondsmith for a father and Kaladin as a brother will set little Ordeon nicely for the back 5.

Two years from now, you all will either congratulate me or resurrect this thread to make me eat my hat

2 hours ago, Letryx13 said:

I get why some people would think the Singers created the unmade, but I just don't think they'd have the power before siding with Odium. Plus, changing only nine spren doesn't seem like it would provoke such a reaction. Although I admit, Blended says the Singer betrayal wasn't on such a large scale as the Recreance.

The only evidence against the theory is that Sja-Anat says that she was unmade by Odium's hand. Unless she means that indirectly, then he's the one who created the unmade.

Not necessarily, I mean it’s a given that Odium was a part of it after all they are His unmades, but let’s say that you have some sort of ancient powerful nearly godspren like type of spren that by allying with Odium the singers were part of the reason they were unmade, maybe the moment the fused were made the unmade were well... unmade.

So the spren flocked to the humans.

I always thought that the singer betrayal of the spern is somehow connected to the Unmade, my best guess is that odium enticed some of the singers into unmaking one or several sprens into the Unmade we all know and love today. By doing so they effectively killed those spren (maybe the first time a spren ever truely died), a so heinous crime only eclipsed later by the mass genocide the recreance caused.

On 2021-11-02 at 0:57 AM, caramel_ said:

OOOH thanks! Gonna read them, I'll edit when I get back

edit: I can't seem to find them. Do I have to have the Apple Books app or something?

Sorry, didn’t get any notification.

I’m using Apple Books on my iPad and it there.

The first 3 chapters of Cytonic are available as free sample on Apple Books, from reading those I’m pretty sure that nowhere is a place out of time.

On 2021-10-19 at 1:00 AM, Tglassy said:

I might just be strange, or it might be that I'm from Texas and haven't been back home in over ten years, but every time I start to reread Misborn, I can't wait to get to Alloy of Law.  I just...I love it.  All of Era 2 is my favorite of the cosmere books.  And I love Stormlight and Elantris and even Warbreaker.  But I love Era 2 Mistborn.  I love the characters.  I love the interactions, the mystery, the "rise of technology combined with magic" and how that's affecting the growth of civilization.  I love love love the Easter eggs, the misconceptions people have about the heroes of the past.  One of my favorite tidbits is how "Eastern Street Slang" became "High Imperial", and is used in all official documents.  Because OF COURSE Spook would do that.  I just love all of it.  Wax is my favorite protagonist, Wayne is my favorite side character, and by the end of Bands of Mourning, I even grow to appreciate and, dare I say it, like Steris. It's great, and is what makes me excited for future Mistborn books.  

I love the new interplay of Twinborn as being the new "Mistborn".  I love the concept of Ferrings alongside Mistings.  I just love all of it.  It was a fantastic direction to take, and I love the execution.  But I prefer my stories to be about the characters, not about the explosions.  Yeah, I went to see the new James Bond, and yeah, there was something nice about going to see a movie that was mostly about what's going to be blown up, but that's still cheap thrills.  I prefer to have my characters have some depth to them.  

But that's just me.  

I’m not from Texas but I approve this message.

I think that the delivers are actually extremely old and powerful cytonics who either transcended or were forced into the nowhere by the superiority.

There where no Delver eyes in Defending Eylisum, so I think it safe to assume that there were no Delvers during that time.

On 2021-07-26 at 11:04 PM, AquaRegia said:

I don't think so.  I had the same reaction as @Mason Wheeler: bullets can't work that way.  Both Forch and young Wax were Pushing on the slug and casing (as a single object) already; the text clearly implies that by Pushing on the primer cap, Wax "fired" the bullet, which killed Forch.

The problem is that without a gun barrel to contain the expanding gas, as well as the mass of a firearm to resist the backwards momentum, what I'd expect to see is 1) most of the energy wasted pushing air outward in all directions, 2) the empty cartridge flying back toward Wax, and 3) the massive slug dropping weakly at Forch's feet.

I'd also point out that if I were in a saloon and a gunfight broke out, I'd knock over a rusting table and hide behind it whether I thought it would stop bullets or not, on the principle that if they can't SEE me, it's harder for them to SHOOT me.

I think that by Wax pushing on the cartridge the backward pacing vector of force was redirected forward, propelling the bullet.

I agree that it will be weaker than using a gun but depending on the cartridge some force will leak forward, and the range was short iirc si it didn’t break suspension for me.

The spent cartridge will be interestingly deformed.

On 2021-06-08 at 7:57 PM, mathiau said:

Actually it happens between SA5 and SA6

Hmmm, you are right.

I wonder when did he change that.

Considering that Wax and Wayne happens before WoK I think he was talking about SoScards.

On 2020-12-31 at 8:53 PM, AutumnWell said:

 

 

Like tapped crystal. Dalinar described Cultivation's voice to be like 'tumbling stones'. Tapped crystal. Tumbling stone. Maybe I'm overthinking, but both of these voices are of Cultivation.

 

That’s a great catch! I remembered something about pure voice while reading RoW and figured that it’s one of the pure notes of Roshar but I never connected it to cultivation until this.

I’ve had a theory for a long time now that both Shalan and Kaladin are the products of cultivation breeding program as part of her master plan.

On 2020-12-18 at 8:20 AM, Kingsdaughter613 said:

And I’m reposting my response:

Actually, what happened in Arelon was that significant change to the environment altered the way Investiture worked enough to interfere with its flow. They had to add something missing (the chasm line) to allow Investiture to flow again.

Ie. Nothing was taken from the Spren - something was ADDED to the environment. Something the Spren are missing.

Or: Odium became fully Invested in Roshar, significantly changing the environment by adding a third tone. This damaged Investiture flow to the Spren because they are ‘missing’ the ‘Odium line’ in their makeup.

I think BAM’s capture had the side effect of completing a process Odium was resisting: Investing fully on Roshar. I also don’t think releasing her will do what people think.

On 2020-12-19 at 7:56 AM, Frustration said:

Wait, Odium became a pure tone, but the Spren are still Just of Honor and Cultivation

So Saj-Anat really is just enlighting them.

Oh, my

This changes everything.

I had it the other way around but this theory makes total sense.

Well we know that Venli managed to combine the two.

So, did anyone else noticed that Navani and Raboniel weren’t the only ones who discovered a new Rythme?

It’s interesting that we don’t have a name for it, I’m not sure she knows what she has done.

“The tone snapped into her mind, Cultivation and Odium mixing into a harmony, and it thrummed through Venli.”

Excerpt From
Rhythm of War ch.83
Brandon Sanderson
https://books.apple.com/us/book/rhythm-of-war/id1489970175
This material may be protected by copyright.

On 2020-11-28 at 6:56 AM, Stormtide_Leviathan said:

I think this may be something more unique to bondsmith powers, greater than the sum of their surges. Since windrunners also can manipulate connection but we've never seen them able to do anything Dalinar can (nor have we seen Dalinar do anything they can, I think? I could be forgetting something there) it seems like a safe bet that there's something fundamentally different about how bondsmith powers work. I also think seeing Navani explore her powers, particularly with her scientific mind, is going to give us a much better understanding of this soon.

Soon? SOON??

You call three years soon? I’ll be nearly 40 by the time KoW will be released! I’ll be nearly 60 when stormlight 10 will be out!! I’ll have to survive another 25 years at least!!! 
Damn, I’ll have to quit drinking and smoking... 

I agree with everything else though...

I had a similar idea while reading part one and than onward into the book.

One thing to remember is that conjoined gems when one is begged than the other will result in corresponding change in movement.

I need to sit down and see if I’m right but I’m pretty sure than we can build a piston like engine that can at least propel an aircraft forward.