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14 hours ago, ftl said:

The core technology is already there - the ability to disconnect from one moving fabrial and reconnect to another, like what they do with the chulls on the shattered plains when they need to turn them around! That's the key to making this a fully fledged airplane.

Instead of having the chulls walk the whole length of a course, then disconnecting from the chull team and reconnecting after turning chulls around, make the disconnection/reconnection happen mechanically. Then you can make the whole thing be basically a small conveyor belt. Put two fabrials moving back and forth, over a much smaller distance, doing the disconnect/reconnect automatically at the end of the short course. Then you can do the same thing with vertical movement, you don't need to lift a platform all the way up and down urithiru.

You need some power for this engine - to run the conveyor belts, and to do the mechanical connection/disconnection of the paired fabrials, however that would work. You could at this point power it any way you want - put it at a waterwheel on a river or something, like a mill.

...but, we've already heard of heating fabrials. You've got a heating fabrial - just make it hot enough, and you've got the power for a steam engine. After all, heat -> steam -> turning wheel -> moving conveyor belt -> moving ship.

And the last bit of innovation - once the whole thing is self-contained enough, you can put the whole thing directly on the ship that it's powering. It gets a little confusing because you've got the relative motion of the ship and of the fabrial which have to be in opposite directions - but again, "connecting" and "disconnecting" the fabrial and ship let you get forward motion out of this.

9 hours ago, rjl said:

Having to keep communicating with Urithiru seems awkward - building on ftl's ideas above could they have the engine onboard?

If all you need is gems being moved with great power over tiny distances - round oval shaped courses with aluminium blocking the wrong angles etc - do it with conveyor belts powered by a steam engine, scale it down and put it inside the ship - though you will need need a source of water for the steam - could maybe soul cast it.

That’s exactly what I’ve been thinking. 
 

And since distance between the gemstones effecrs how much force you can transfer having the engine as close to the ship is paramount.

Modern Roshar can creat steel in  large quantities, I think  it safe to assume that they know about watermills and gears.

so build this thing, have a resident Windrunner keep atmosphere and launch into space to invade Braize 

6 minutes ago, Karger said:

Not in the interview itself but we know that Brandon spent some time writing her and(he mentioned he was doing so at several signings) from the released chapter we know that she is explaining/working on fabrials.  Also I really am looking forward to a Navani Venli team up so my confirmation bias is overstating things for me.

Hold your horses! THERS A CHAPTER ONLINE??

I don’t get why gravity guns aren’t an option, we don’t know what’s the upper limit of lashing you can give an object, and even than if you can keep the bullets running for 10 seconds at 1 lashing running in an ammo drum the bullets will reach a speed of around 850 m/s, the equivalent of ww2 infantry rifles.

even if you can’t make rifles you can still make early Gatling guns equivalent.

TL;DR 

Sorry, I’ll catch up with the thread later i have a pet theory about Adolin and Maya. I think that he will revive her with some external help (probably Dalinar) and it will be a crucial part in Szeths story arc.

I think that the Shin wars weren’t really wars of conquest but more of wars for shards. We know that in Feverstone Keep Dalinar saw 300 KR leave 300 shardblades behind, that was two orders of radiant worth of shards, mind you probably the two biggest orders in terms of membership so let’s say the other 6 left behind another 500 blades, that’s 800 shardblades! 
Althekar is said to be the country with most shards with about 30 shardblades, and some nations don’t have any at all. I believe that the missing blades are hidden in Shinovar and that retrieving and reviving them will be one of the main story arch’s in SA5.

Besides, Adolin is a young modern day Nohadon, I fully expect him to be highprince of war at some point.

For me this chapter really drove home how dire the situation really is and it helped paint the battle for Thaylen city as the great pivotal point it was.

It’s also the one chapter i usually skip on any rereads, it still moves me every time, f@#$ Moash.

Am I the only one who’s thinking about guns? We have a WoB that says that fabrials can replicate every surge so how about a fabrial that uses gravitation to accelerate projectiles? 

I actually think it’s cultivation masquerading as honor.

But it’s a good theory. 

On 10/10/2019 at 11:31 PM, equinox said:

Is there any way to read those chapters online? For someone who didn't want to read Skyward in the first place, my Starsight hype is way too big 

Sorry mate, I don’t know how

If you haven’t noticed the first 3 chapters of Starsight are up on the iBook store.

if you haven’t read it than spoilers are up, bee warned.

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I wish I haven’t read them. I got more questions now than before, so what do you guys think they found in the records? And knowing what we know now what do you think the status of the DDF is? And just a thought but could doomslug be part of the hyperdrive mechanism, do we know where it is during the time when Spensa jumped during the battle at the end of skyward?

On 3/13/2018 at 7:00 PM, WhiteLeeopard said:

If you want to add another point, I think there is a good chance Windrunner 4th Oath is about been more coolly logical and knowing when to protect, and Elsecaller 4th Oath about doing what is right regardless of logic. If that is true they could help each other on their respective 4th Oaths . 

I think windrunners 4th oath is about admitting they can’t take responsibility for everything, in Kaladin case that he can’t save everyone, I think it’s pretty conclusive from Kal storyline in OB, he is depressed on the way to hearthstone when he is sure that he failed to save it, he breaks down in front of his parents because he failed to save Tien, he is furious and depressed that he couldn’t save more people from the highstorm, he freezes up in Kholinar when can’t stop his friends from killing each other, and the biggest clue is when he tries to say the 4th oath and can’t, because it means admitting that he can’t save Dalinar and need to focus on saving Adolin, Shallan, Syl, Pattern, Maya and himself from the fused, he can’t do it, he won’t stop trying to save everyone.

Maybe Jasnah can help him see it, it’s a very interesting theory which I would love to see in book four.

Keep on reading, Oathbringer is a roller coaster, you are only at the first climb.

Have fun!

Haven’t read the entire thread but here are my 2 cents.

In my mind Kaladins story is the story of a soldier at war, far from home and everything he knows rising through the ranks, he is the qeantisential soldier, having a loved one back at home maybe, but’s that is not the focuse of his story. The focuse is the comraderies, the hardship and sacrifice.

I really don’t want a love story to get into the middle of that.

Having said that I’m torn between Tarah, who I think is a great contender since we’ve seen here mentioned in all three books and the fact that she might been sighted in Urithriu, and Jashna, who would make the most interesting alternative to letting Kal be a hero with some peace and quite ;-P

Am I the only one who felt that it’s not a true Sanderson book since it’s too short?

After reading the Novella and combing through the chapters I’m pretty sure that you are right.

It gives a whole new meaning to this little tidbit from gran gran

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“We of the engine crew,” Gran-Gran said, “were odd, among the other ship crews. They thought we were strange, but we kept the ship moving. We made it travel the stars. Mother said it was because we could hear them.”

The engine crew are the descendents of phone company members.

On 9/4/2018 at 4:14 PM, NoiseSpren said:

If Renarin used psychical version of lightweaving and Dalinar of tension, would Kaladin use personal gravitation to pull people toward him and kohesion to keep them?

 

It Iooks like that...

That’s sound like a good explanation to Windruners resonance.

Wow!

that is one great theory, I fully support it, it just makes sense on so many level, good job.

I’m calling it, Renarin will be the one ascending, I don’t know if it will be with one shard or more but he’ll either take Odium who we know it’s intent is passion and instead of hatred it will be something more benevolent or he either take both Honor and Odium and become a double shard like Harmony.

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I think ash will bond a dustbringer spren. 

Warder

Another relevant death rattle, after OB this things just pop right up to you

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“Victory! We stand atop the mount! We scatter them before us! Their homes become our dens, their lands are now our farms! And they shall burn, as we once did, in a place that is hollow and forlorn.”
—Collected on Ishashan, 1172, 18 seconds pre-death. Subject was a lighteyed spinster of the eighth dahn.”

Excerpt From
The Way of Kings
Brandon Sanderson
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A human invader talking about (IMHO) the first vicrtory over the original singers. Most interesting is the part about someone burning, could it be a reference to the fused being locked in damnation (probably Ashyn from whence the humans came from)

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“The love of men is a frigid thing, a mountain stream only three steps from the ice. We are his. Oh Stormfather … we are his. It is but a thousand days, and the Everstorm comes.”

Excerpt From
The Way of Kings
Brandon Sanderson
https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/the-way-of-kings/id376229549?mt=11
This material may be protected by copyright.

It is said that BS likes to tease the end of his epics at the start of his first book so I’ve been rereading the prologue for the Stormlighte Archives and after that I came upon this, I believe that this death rattle not only refer to the everstorm coming but also for Odium being the first god of men in the Roshar system.

Am I completely of course on that?

Warder

Nice catch!

warder

I’m pretty sure that Jasnah is much more advanced than we think, there is a scene where Adolin catches a glimpse of her with fading geomatics around here which I bet is shardplate fading out.

I’m not sure about the her using transportation, perhaps being of the 4th ideal (or higher) just make her more fluent in using her powers?

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I just had a thought, could it be that by the time of the recreance there was only one bondsmith and he was bonded to the great spren with the many faces? Could it be that Cusicesh the Protector is a dead godspern?

And another theory, the many faces Cusicesh show are all the faces of the KR who broken their oaths.

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