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Collaborate hurled another soldier towards Corpsemaker, his glee at being singled out by the powerful Epic turned to dissatisfaction as the soldier flew less than a third as fast as the ones he'd used before. He turned back, looking for his group of soldiers, only to find them all bleeding on the floor, their corpses surrounding a man with a gun who was calmly surveying the rest of the field. It seemed that human followers were as fragile as ever. Cursing himself for his hubris, Collaborate realized how underprepared he'd been, he'd been used to fighting one Epic, maybe a small team with perhaps a dozen human bodyguards, he'd never stopped to think that as he targeted Corpsemaker another Epic might decimate his followers. Growling with rage he hurled the car door he'd been using towards the Epic, only for it to curve in mid air and bury itself in one of his own soldiers. Analyzing his remaining strength he guessed that there were perhaps ten remaining from his army of thirty. I need to finish this quickly. Attack Corpsemaker directly, scare his Epics into submission. Capture that Toymaker Epic so I get the soldiers, then I will have more than enough strength left. Feeling his strength slowly draining more as the other Epics from the MEE were killed he took action, taking a giant leap towards Corpsemaker, hands outstretched. Even as he flew, two more died, leaving him with barely five times his normal strength, fear started to flicker in his stomach as he soared, what if they all died? What if they died before he could even touch Corpsemaker? He tried to think of a plan, some way to escape, but no, he was already there, already committed. He landed, barely five feet from the legendary Epic, legs straining as he no longer had the strength to properly absorb his fall. He was all alone. Alone and trying to fight the strongest Epic in Portland. Yorrick observed his catch, it had turned out that skulls weren't great at digging bodies out of graves, even if they were flaming, flying skulls. Luckily someone from the MEE had sent Scrapyard after them, the Epic turning his limbs into digging equipment and managed to unearth a dozen bodies in as many minutes. Stitch had taken some of the more intact bodies, sitting down nearby he wove his thread through their corpses, the corpses limbs twitching occasionally as he tested their movement. Sighing, Yorrick looked at his growing army of skulls, their eerie glowing penetrating the nights gloom, then he looked up, the dim glow from the underside of the floating museum taunting him. He turned towards Scrapyard. "I'm going to need mor., A lot more." He arranged his skulls beneath him, forming a glowing platform for him to stand on, he hovered slightly above the ground on his flaming bed of skulls before arranging them into a chair instead. Yes, a flaming throne made from the skulls of my enemies. And tonight, tonight I will add the skull of Lightwards to them, and whoever else is dwelling in that museum.
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Added, welcome back to the Alleys, we kept your lab as you left it.
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Welcome back, good to see you're still around. *Hands over promised cookie*
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It wouldn't cut her skin no, that's what I was trying to convey, the momentum from the knife to her skin becomes a part of the system, since she's maintaining her power as soon as the momentum enters the system it's cancelled out because it's not there in the ideal so the knife can't penetrate, technically it has to have at least some momentum to be affected but that's a calculus problem to deal with infinitives, practically speaking it wouldn't move. If it stabbed her and then she used her powers then yeah the knife would just sit there unable to be removed, so hopefully no one thinks to stab her before she starts shielding (Although to be honest she's more likely to use the air as a shield than apply the power to herself directly, she's not great at thinking up consequences of her power like that) or she's going to be stuck with a knife inside her until someone comes over to her frozen form to help.
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1) It doesn't, it treats the heat as just momentum on a smaller scale and it doesn't cause overall KE to influence heat, not sure where we got mixed up here but yeah, heat maps to heat, overall movement to overall movement. 2) It becomes part of the system that her power is affecting, not part of the ideal that it's being compared to, so yes it's not foreign anymore but it's foreign compared to the ideal, which is what modulates the change. Say you tried stabbing her with a knife instead, the momentum the knife imparts to her skin (causing it to split open) is part of the system because it's being affected by her powers, but it's not there in the idealized version so it gets cancelled out.
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Well Corpsemaker's all set up to destroy Collaboration so I think once they're back at the museum all we need is to finish off the fight with the dominion then we can timeskip to the MoNA attack and roughly 6 months after we started it the day will end
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The heat would just map to more heat, not overall kinetic energy, which is where all the complex maths comes in but approximations should suffice for the purposes of the game. 2- That's because his power is healing, not stopping things from moving, it would still recognize the damage as foreign regardless of how natural it is. 3- I think I misunderstood you then, I thought you were talking about the interactions of the atoms within the object rather than which atoms were inside the object. I suggest avoiding the nebulous concept of an 'object' all together, essentially just defining an area and saying that whatever is inside of this area is affected, otherwise she could target things like the atmosphere and destroy whatever city she's in in the blink of an eye.
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We've moved on to a more philosophical argument now Apologies to all for taking up valuable pug and pony time.
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1- Temperature is the random movement of particles, those particles posses mass so it can also be described as the random distribution of momentum. 2- It's not a context dependant ideal, that's the point, it's a separate ideal that defines how a persons body normally acts, regardless of circumstance. Slight Mistborn spoilers 3- That's not in the least subjective, that's just complicated, complicated can be dealt with logically, if I rush through and do an estimate and someone disagrees they can show me the mass and I'll agree with them, if I just subjectively decide what happens and someone disagrees there's nothing to discuss or prove, my way goes just because I subjectively decided it does. 4-This kind of proves my point, we're disagreed about what the electrons should do since it's a subjective view, if I go with the handwaving suggestion at this point I'd just have to say essentially 'It doesn't really matter that you disagree, this is just how it happens' if I were to just go with 'whatever normally happens would happen' then again her power does nothing because normally bodies don't suddenly freeze.
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No more than reality does, momentum and energy are related concepts, she only affects the energy that comes as a result of momentum so it's well within scope. I could wiggle around the use of an idealized version (Something I actually got the idea from Brandons cognitive aspects and spritual ideals) but it provides some limitations at least and at the very least it doesn't compel me to just alter her powers as needed, I could obviously but I won't, I already have a working model and I'll stick to that model regardless of what occurs in story, having no planned model but just saying 'it just works because it does' provides me with no way to prepare for future situations now while I'm free from bias. This way if someone asks me a question I can say 'well this is how I've imagined the idealized version and her powers interactions so logically it should work this way' rather than just 'well, I'd prefer it to do this so it does this.' The point is that I'd be setting those limits now rather than on the fly as they're needed and when my answer may be influenced by bias, that's the benefit of having a structured system rather than handwaving it. (Also I seriously doubt anyone would accept that the ideal version of a human body has lightning coursing through it) The difference essentially comes down to a completely subjective approach where I just handwave explanations away, or a largely rules-based approach with certain subjective elements (Which are going to be necessary whatever happens, there's no objective way to differentiate between blood movement and muscle movement) Again, an 'object' is a highly subjective definition, and an 'object as a whole' makes even less sense subjectively with the multitude of differing momentums within it. For instance from my perspective, the electrons would become a part of the system as soon as they made contact, electrons flow freely between atoms, they don't 'belong' to one object and stay there forever, as soon as an electron entered the body it would be part of the system and so stopped. That seems like the logical chain to me. Which is the problem with subjectivity and handwaving, it renders little ability to differentiate which of us is right because there is no right. There can at least be some discussion over what constitutes the natural, idealized version of a person, blood flow at the least, breathing, brain activity, not on fire or being shocked with electricity, whether eye movement or blinking would be allowed or not is a somewhat more subjective debate but there can at least be a debate, we all share somewhat of the same idea of what constitutes a normal, living person, we can't all share an idea on handwaving.
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I did indeed Nice cameo.
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Still better than Lycra!Lightwards.
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Hurt'n'Heal Epics (Steelheart and Firefight spoilers)
Voidus replied to Curiosity's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Funtimes 23 (For the ninja above and my vote) Voidgaze 13 -
Hurt'n'Heal Epics (Steelheart and Firefight spoilers)
Voidus replied to Curiosity's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Funtimes 22 Voidgaze 16 -
Maybe if it was green? Nope. You're right, he's beyond all hope.
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I won't. Neverthere on the other hand might do it to extort a few more dinosaurs out of him...
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He's just jealous that he's not allowed to walk around in a glittery prom dress
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Hurt'n'Heal Epics (Steelheart and Firefight spoilers)
Voidus replied to Curiosity's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Funtimes Altermind 2 Voidgaze 9 Ricochet 3 -
Hurt'n'Heal Epics (Steelheart and Firefight spoilers)
Voidus replied to Curiosity's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Funtimes 18 Altermind 3 Voidgaze 10 Lightwards 3 Ricochet 4 -
and three are mine So I guess that makes Mailliw and I the best?
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Hurt'n'Heal Epics (Steelheart and Firefight spoilers)
Voidus replied to Curiosity's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Funtimes 13 Corpsemaker 10 Altermind 10 Voidgaze 8 Way to be mean to the only nice Epic guys Lightwards 12 Ricochet 5 -
Having a Bad Day? Stop here for a Good Rant!
Voidus replied to traceria's topic in General Discussion
I'm gonna be honest here, that sounds adorable. We just can't afford to have kids now so I suppose I'm kind of in a state of elevating children to saints though -
I know this is going to sound somewhat antagonistic so sorry in advance but that's less handwaving than just completely ignoring how her powers work and just stating that they do, it provides no framework for new circumstances meaning that I'll have to come up with how her powers work on the fly as situations arise. So it's not really a solution to the problem (What would happen if she used her powers on a bolt of lightning) than it is just allowing me to say whatever I want happens. I don't know, maybe I'm just annoyed because it feels like you're trying to toss 6 months of effort out the window, if that's really what everyone thinks is best then I suppose I'll go with it but I don't particularly like it and I suspect it will cause many problems in fights due to her power being completely unpredictable in new circumstances.
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Hurt'n'Heal Epics (Steelheart and Firefight spoilers)
Voidus replied to Curiosity's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
I'm an agent of chaos. -
Hurt'n'Heal Epics (Steelheart and Firefight spoilers)
Voidus replied to Curiosity's topic in Forum Games & Random Stuff
Prof 13 Obliteration 13 Dawnslight 10
