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The AoL release probably also means that the RPG's notes about hemalurgy are bunk: if there is no temporal feruchemy, one can't very well steal it. Anywho, for Feruchemy, I'd argue: Physical Iron: stores weight (O) Steel: stores speed (A) Brass: stores warmth/heat (A) Gold: stores health (O) Pewter: stores strength (A) Tin: stores senses (O) Bendalloy: stores calories/fluid (A) Cadmium: stores breath (O) Cognative Zinc: stores mental speed (O) Bronze: stores wakefulness (A) Copper: stores memories (O) Electrum (?): stores determination (A) Spiritual Aluminium: stores identity (O) Duralumin: stores connection (A) Chromium: stores luck (O) Nicrosil: stores Investiture (A) Though I am not very happy that metal pairs are occasionally split between the realms.

Three reasons. First, because mistborn are legendary and flashy, while feruchemists aren't. Second, because if they actually want a feruchemist, it will probably be because of compounding, but if that is the case, one would hope they realize the dangers of a full twinborn. Third, because it might not be possible. Sanderson said that Ferrings have come about because of how allomancy interacted genetically with feruchemy. The option seems to be excluded. True. But in the past, when a crazypants person also has metal piercing their skin, that metal tends to be hemalugically charged. It is an assumption, no doubts there, but one with at least past experience to help support it. As you said, Sazed's goal is to allow people to make their own choices. That doesn't necessarily mean always doing good. Miles was making his own choices, after all. Sazed seems to have been successful with him, if that was his goal. ... Does that make Sazed a survivorist?

To note, there doesn't seem to be any particular feruchemical link. They might be breeding mistborn, but they aren't breeding feruchemists (that we have hints of, at least). Though... I am slightly worried about Harmony's role in all this. Miles was spiked, so he could hear Sazed (probably), the heists all happen during the mists... if Ati was still holding on to his shard, I'd totally think he was behind some of this.

Something to keep in mind is that we don't know that he is actually permanently taking away someone's bending. We saw nothing more permanent than any chi-blocking we've already observed. Perhaps the criminals Amon used his power against did have their bending taking away, or perhaps they recovered after a while. At that point, presumably, Amon would have them disposed of. That would also explain why he didn't take away Korra's bending (his excuse strikes me as quite weak). Killing her would have been counter productive, he couldn't actually take away her powers (and thus trying would have eventually undermined him), so all he could do is retreat (I mean, advance toward the rear). Although, that said, it is interesting that Amon attacks from behind. It looks vaguely like how Aang was injured at the end of Season 2 and how his powers were restored at the end of Season 3. Amon might be specifically targeting an important chakra location. For Aang, that blocked his ability to access his avatar state. It might still influence bending abilities, though.

In 1972, a crack Food Quality Assurance unit was sent to prison by a Food and Safety Review Board for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum-security stockade to the Republic City underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as hawkers of leafy green vegetables. If you need a cabbage...if no one else can help...and if you can find them...maybe you can hire...The C-Team.

Great fun, with just enough crunch that you didn't notice when things made no sense. Generally, if a character didn't shine brilliantly in a previous movie, they shined in this one. There were a few quasi-plotholes (like why did someone tell Tony that taking the bomb through the portal was a one way trip when it clearly wasn't, or what was Loki's goal in letting himself be captured), but nothing that stopped me from thoroughly enjoying the movie.

Thanks for the responses. I just checked on it and now it is saying I have it even though I didn't before. Although I noticed that there are new things to unlock that weren't in the closed beta (well, either that or I have a really bad memory). Excellent timing, considering that the ebooks have been finally released.

Ryan, I can't speak for Eric, but I did start on Winamp. However, my folder-mongering ways began long before that. It's a long story, an old one, filled with excitement, adventure, and alphabetizing. In those days, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. I'll, of course, regale you with the account. That is what old people do, isn't it? Anywho, back then, if you wanted to play the latest "Video Game," such as the seminal Scorched Earth or the ethereal Commander Keen: Marooned on Mars, you had to put in its own dedicated floppy disk (as in actually floppy, the 8-inch kind) so it could run. There were lesser games, and you might be able to fit like 30 of them on a disk, but these colossal games were where it all started. Anywho, the problem there is that these marvels of modern programming were too large to put on your computer, so you'd have to store them elsewhere. Keep in mind, these were the heady days when 640kb program memory was supposed to be all the computery ambrosia one would ever need. There was the conundrum: how to arrange all these floppy drives and their associated war-and-peace-like instruction manuals so that one could easily find them? Filing systems, of course. Sure, we might not have (usually) been using actual file folders, but the concept was the same. In my disk storage case I had a game section, which was divided into sections for big games and for small ones. Then there was the... well, okay, I was young, so I only had the games section, but my parents had more sections that they used for things. Not sure what. Thus, when computers became fancy enough that they didn't need external filing systems for all the floppy disks, that filing system was more or less copied over onto the computer itself. I still have a "games" folder, the practice of which originates to this period, and it feels wrong when something like Terraria or Project Zomboid gets installed on my computer but not in that location. My folder-mongering essentially expanded to other areas of computing that I use regularly. I don't save any work-like documents in the "My Documents" folder. That's gibberish. I make my own folder system that is neither new nor fangled (especially fangled: I hate fangled things). That's the way I've always done it, and I's likes it that way. Music, then, is just a single branch of this. Of course, there are plenty of reasons to dislike iTunes besides my above ramblings. There's the annoyance of iTunes thinking that a soundtrack is dozen or so different albums because the artist for each song is different. But, as Chaos said, it’s nonsensical for them to prevent iPods from being proper storage devices. I know that my entire musical library (as of several years ago) is on my iPod, but if I want to get those files onto a different computer, I either have to rip them again, or use a storage device that isn't needlessly restrictive. I stopped using iTunes and my iPod when cloud drives became common, since it is easier to just have my music library on one of those. Not the iCloud, of course. I'm old, but I'm not senile… despite the fact that the above rambling speaks to the contrary.

Glad you liked the title. I always aim to amuse.

Well, since they aren't willing to pay you properly, perhaps you should start demanding non-monetary compensations. For example, perhaps the owner and other employee are required to call you "Her High majesty Sweetness, First of Her Name, Mistress of the Nine Shirts, Overseer of the Pantlands, Harbinger of Starch, Holder of the Sacred Steam press, and Destroyer of All." Then, when they refuse to meet your reasonable demands, bam, excuse to tell them off and storm out.

The first rule of write club is that you do not talk about write club. The second rule of write club is that you do not talk about write club. Writes will go on as long as they have to. Ifthis is your first night at write club, you have to write.

Stephen King has a quasi-autobiography/book on writing called, appropriately, "On Writing." He gives a background of how he became a writer, then talks about the craft, gives examples of different drafts of his work (complete with editor's marks), and so forth. Nice thing there is that King is a discovery writer, while Sanderson is an outliner (haven't read much about how OSC writes, but he seems to be a bit more of a discovery writer than outliner). That is great because it would give your friend two different perspectives and he can better figure what he is like, then.

Do you mean art where the scars are just straight lines, or art where the scars run from wrist to elbow? If the latter, then try this: Kelsier, Lord of the Dance Kelsier, drawn that way Kelsier, your Friendly Neighborhood Mistborn Not really sure why there's a decent amount of art with scars entirely the wrong way. Sure, he probably had to rotate his arm occasionally to get him hand to the atium, but it seems like some artists draw him like a life long cutter.

Ah, it finally opened up?! Excellent! Hopefully the other books are well on their way, then. I was beginning to fear it would never get out of beta. I'll have to check to see if dueling is working, now. As for me, I'm BatThestral117, a Ravenclaw. I don't recall what my wand it. Something awesome, I'm sure. Well, since you offered, and it is so convenient, any idea how to unlock the put-outer entry? I can read it at the end of the chapter, of course, but I never figured out where to click to unlock it during the chapter itself (though perhaps that was just a glitch when I tried).

Thanks Tulir. But, to not let myself off easily, my own first line there smacks a little of white room syndrome. My story is set during winter, but that is a line I think would cause a number of editors to put the manuscript down. Additionally, that line promises two things: that snow and the dead are important to the rest of the story. It's raising readers expectations, so I'd have to be sure that those expectations are satisfied in some regard.

Spoonface? That's a good sight better than spoonguard, I tell you what. It's time to party like is Lyssie95 Tulir... ... sorry, I have no bad puns for you. I just couldn't think of any. And, to once again put up my own first line for mockery: "The snow hid the dead."

Fun idea but, alas, even for the lower 8 metals it doesn't work that way. Tin allows one to see through the mist, but such an ability doesn't work under your assumption. If all tin did was increase natural perceptions, then the mists should be more of an obstacle to sight, not less.

Thanks, Windrunner. I added that section to The List. Nicely enough, this seems to confirm that Zane's spike does indeed go through his heart (two paragraphs up from where you quotes he notes that the area is "where his heart thumped.") Regarding spikes, I also agree that they have to be put very precisely in binding points to do any good. After all, it is hard for Ruin to get spikes into people: if any old point would do, then it should have been much easier. Probably if Penrod's spike was a quarter inch off it wouldn't have worked (or would have been a different bind point). Given that Penrod and Zane were spiked in the same location and Ruin seemed to influence them much more easily than he did Vin or Spook, perhaps specific bind points also control how much influence Ruin has. Or maybe our plucky heroes were just stronger willed.

That was great, thanks Thor! I think I integrated it all into the List. I totally agree that interviews and the sort are important, I had just been focusing on the books since the Brandonothology nicely enough is already online. But yes, this information needed to be added sooner or later, so sooner works splendidly. Actually, it was my endeavor to figure out binding points that led me to eventually try to track down hemalurgical information, so I absolutely love your list. One confirmed other instance is: 11. Chest (Bronze, BronzeAllomancy/Smoker, Penrod) We we assume that Ruin has to have a properly placed hemalurgic spike in order to communicate with the person, then we know two other locations: 12: Earlobe (unknown, unknown, Alendi) 12: Upper arm (Atium, unknown, Rashek) in the form of bracelets As for Zane, that was supposed to be his heart as well, although I think we get this from Vin's POV.

Thanks, Spoonface! Though, do you know in what interview or blurb that information can be found? I glanced through the brandonothology and didn't find it, but that was just a really quick search. Doesn't it, though? Elend talks about how 8 mistings were apparently used to create an inquisitor, yet when he says that, he didn't know that atium mistings exist. This quote puts that one in context. 9-spike inquisitors make more sense when one doesn't know that atium (and presumably gold) mistings exist.

Hemalurgy is the most complex of the Metallic Arts, which makes discussing it in a crazy, obsessive-compulsive fashion difficult. At no point in the books is it clearly defined, so there are a lot of gaps in our knowledge about it. To confound this, however, what information we do know is scattered throughout the primary texts (mainly Hero of Ages), and even then somewhat faintly. Sometimes an important line of text is nestled in a large chapter that, other than it, doesn't talk about hemalurgy at all. The purpose of this thread, then, is to create a repository of our clues about hemalurgy, with a focus on the books. Currently, I'll post information based on book, chapter, and I'll note if it is in the chapter bumps or not (I use an ebook version, so page numbers are highly inaccurate). I'll also include a brief summary of what the section says (I'm avoiding making everything direct quotes because that is getting into questionable copyright territory). Suffice it to say, there will be potential spoilers. As a warning, chances are, people normally remember a lot of this information. This isn't so much to reveal new information as it is to gather and document what we have, so it is easier to reference it. If anyone wants to help, feel free to post a section and I'll be happy to add it to the master list. Of course, theories based on this information are welcome. And now, the LIST: Well of Ascension Hero of Ages Interviews Tweets Question and Answers Time Waster's Guild and other Forums

To touch more upon the original question, the flowers seem to be more akin to Preservation's mists, rather than lerasium or atium. That is, it is a potent, effective fuel, just as the mists were. Lerasium, on the other hand, produced unique allomantic effects, as did atium. If these flowers were like those metals, then it seems like they should have effects that you don't find elsewhere.

Regarding multiple powers, Sazed is a bit contradictory in that he also says that killing a mistborn with a spike was a waste since only one power could be drawn out and the rest lost (HoA ch 72). Either the power a spike has is determined at the time of charging (per this blurb) or it is In HoA, ch 72, Sazed wonders why The Lord Ruler didn't tell people about all 16 metals. Curiously, he doesn't consider the possibility that he just didn't have access to the metals. That indicates other explanations are necessary. Such as, he willingly held it back. While animals and people (maybe even plants) have some Ruin in them (since they didn't create stones, it seems probably that Sazed was being metaphorical when he was talking about inanimate object), Preservation's power is clearly enough to alter things: Rashek created/modified microbes, plants, animals, and people. Changing manganese or vanadium into chromium seems to be a logical extension of this. If that is possible or not is unknown, but it is at least a logical extension of what we've already seen. Of course, as noted, Rashek changed things: what he couldn't do, it seems, was correct his own mistakes (shove the planet back to where it was, remove the ashmounts and find some other way of protecting people, etc). Thus, if he moved metal to be near him, or transmuted it from something else, he couldn't have undone it. As for being able to see metal, that should be fairly unimportant, and not exactly true. There is a difference between the random metals Vin sees and atium, for example (HoA, ch 79). That might just be because, hey, atium is Ruin, but it sets a precedent for metals being distinguishable. But beyond that, clearly a shard can perceive a specific metal on some level. If the Shard could only "perceive" metals as indistinguishable blobs of light, how could that information be communicated to the shardholder is such a way that Rashek or Sazed could make use of it? Even abstract information has to be grounded in a shared experience. None of this is definite, of course, but given that Rashek had good reasons not to use the metal, saying he couldn't find it seems to be an unnecessary addition.

But Sanderson said that Hoid was doing something that spooked Vin, and that she is too observant. While Ruin may well have influenced Vin to be overly paranoid, there was at least a basis of some sort for that behavior. The question then becomes what Hoid was doing that spooked her. We're only told that he was sitting in the light ashfall and humming. I feel like the tune might be important, but have no justification for why that might be.

A silly question, but since channeling (from WoT) and allomancy are instances of humans drawing upon the power of creation, would burning copper protect its user from mental weaves, like compulsion, as it protects the user from mental allomancy?