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4 hours ago, RShara said:

It has to do with how they view themselves. Kaladin views himself as scarred and so nothing that tries to hide them will stick, and they don't heal.  The other bridgemen don't feel their brands are part of them any more, so their tattoos stay.  They do feel that their brands are SOME part of them, though, otherwise the brands would just fade.

I don't think this is quite what's going on, or they should have shown up in the old man disguise. What I think happens is that Kaladin doesn't know what the old man disguise is supposed to look like, so his view of himself isn't altered. When Shallan just disguises the scars though he does know what he's supposed to look like and corrects accordingly.

Isn't Roshar supposed to have slightly lower gravity than Earth too? Not sure how that affects lifespans but it probably does one way or the other.

My money is on a new character in the Thaylen interludes. That would be a good place to hide her without it being too obvious, but something people like us would pick up on. I'm going to guess she won't use the same kinds of slang that Vasher uses though, being Idris. Or maybe she would? Now I'm curious about the (previously unheard) Halladren metaphors and whether they carried over to Idris after the rebellion, or if they are something pre-Idris.

23 hours ago, Thude said:

I just read chapter 51 in Woe, in it is a quote "it had taken a lengthy explanation from Dalinar to even get the horse to allow Adolin to hold the reins, let alone climb into the saddle" (B.Sanderson 707, WoR)

My question is what level of intelligence do you believe Rhysadium have, is it on par with humans, slightly below, on par with horses?

Ever read Stephen R. Donaldson's Thomas Covenant books? If so I put them at Ranyhyn level: smart as people, but focused in entirely different directions. Keep in mind that people develop a lot of things to get along in an environment that they are really poorly adapted to.

Amaram didn't have Plate. He is vulnerable to Helaran when his horse collapses on his leg, a man in Plate would have been able to easily resolve that. 

16 minutes ago, Fifth of Daybreak said:

He blackmailed an apothecary, bribed and threatened a superior officer, stole spheres from his owner, and conspired to commit regicide. 

Could make an argument that only the last one is a crime that he could be held accountable for, since the others were done while he was illegitimately a slave.

4 minutes ago, Toaster Retribution said:

I have an answer to this, but it is Edgedancer spoiler (big one):

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Since Nale has now realized that murdering Radiants was a bad idea, I doubt he will hunt any one of them down.

 

Sorry, should have been clear: pre-Edgedancer. 

4 hours ago, Toaster Retribution said:

Must be hard to be Nale.

"Storm it, why do the criminals follow the laws so good?"

Makes you wonder if Nale would try to kill Kaladin. Far as we know, Kaladin hasn't actually broken any laws that anyone would know about, AND he was wrongfully made into a slave when he did break what laws he did. Jasnah, Dalinar, and Shallan are probably screwed though.

19 hours ago, Knghtstlker said:

He healed much faster by the end of the WoR due to his 3rd Oath? I know this happened prior. but I believe he wasn't restricted on Stormlight Consumption in that fight, I vaguely remember a line of something along the lines of "It was a Bright Day so Kaladin sucked in as much stormlight as he dared". Which means he was probably teaming with it. He probably had way more stormlight in him at the time he snapped his legs on *Insert name here*'s back, than when he healed his Sharddead arm. Right?

He had leftover Spheres that he stole light from that Szeth had on him, He had Szeth's reserves, and even though Kaladin is more efficient with Stormlight, I bet it takes MORE to heal Sharddead Limbs than broken bones right? I got the impression he bought Adolin a few minutes with that maneuver, Dazed both himself and the attacker.

Deus Ex Machina: The healing I think is somewhat of a it is whatever it needs to be whenever it needs to be there, but! I think it will be more consistent and better framed in the future, now that Kaladin has a pretty good sense of what it can accomplish. Lets Keep in mind where we left Lopen at the end of WoR,

I have not read any Spoiler Chapters. Please keep it that way.

Thoughts?

I don't think the rate ever changed. Kaladin healed minor lacerations without even noticing before he even said one oath. When he fights in the arena he has two Oaths under his belt, so even if it only effects how efficiently he can use Lashings, he is still using less Stormlight to Lash and has more available for healing. People keep looking at "well he healed this way fast!" but the situations aren't like to like. Kaladin versus Szeth the first time isn't a great represantation of what Kaladin with two Oaths behind him is capable of. Frankly I really think at that point if they were even in Stormlight Kaladin may have been able to beat Szeth the first time.                                                                          

1 minute ago, Calderis said:

That's not the point. The Spren mimicked the Oathpact in creating the Radiants. The depth of that mimicry is the reason for the speculation. 

The Oathpact was between the Heralds and Honor, but the Spren, even those of Cultivation (which is arguably some level in all Nahel Spren) provides the same surges and a blade. 

My point is that I can see honor-based spren being forced to that level of exactitude, but cultivation-spren should probably be able to cultivate something a bit better. I guess we'll find out down the line. Radiants being turned into cognitive shadows on Braize just seems kind of blah to me as a reason for the Recreance.

1 minute ago, Calderis said:

Brandon Sanderson

Yes, a Vessel for a Shard of Adonalsium can give up their power if they wish.

I'm sticking to the Intent altering the actual person to some degree until there's a WoB or scene proving otherwise. At least immediately after giving up a Shard and probably for some time after. I don't think if Ati had given up Ruin during Vin's time, he'd have gone back to being a decent guy right away.

3 minutes ago, Aleksiel said:

Jasnah wanted to go back, but she couldn't. She did what little she could to help, though. You can read it here.

Thanks I hadn't seen this!

I'd be curious to see the Everstorm hit Shinovar. It might have a stormwall when it hits there, then lose it as it travels across the mountains. Sort of a reverse highstorm. The Shinovar mountains might actually make the Everstorms a lot less dangerous than highstorms for most of Roshar.

15 minutes ago, Calderis said:

Powder forms of poison are unreliable unless used in quantities that are dangerous to unintended targets. And poison is far more likely in a substance that a liquid can be added to after it cooked. 

The idea of poison in the jam is a much more natural expectation. Unless Brandon says otherwise, I believe that Shallan's reasoning is sound. 

Jasnah intentionally soulcasting away the poison, when without Shallan's prodding she'd have never eaten the bread at all, makes no sense. 

I believe that she thought that Kabsal was less competent than he actually was, and placed the poison in the jam in one last effort to get her to eat some, and by soulcasting the jam she was protecting Shallan.

Killing Kabsal intentionally also makes no sense. Killing Ghostbloods isn't the issue here, it's that if she were going to act against him she'd have wanted him captured alive to be questioned. 

I'm not sure that the last part of this is sound. Jasnah is in a foreign kingdom, without resources to hold or maintain a prisoner, and said kingdom is ruled by (what she thinks) is a well meaning idiot that is constantly confounded by his scheming lighteyes. Seems like it would be in Jasnah's best interests to eliminate the Ghostblood and set a trap for the next one, but even then... she says she doesn't know much about them. That indicates she's never caught one or been in a position to question one. The Ghostbloods are a problem because they threaten her life, but they aren't her primary focus. I don't see Jasnah being willing to let the world burn just to satisfy her curiosity on who is trying to kill her.

By the by, a better argument about Jasnah being cavalier with Shallan's life is that she Elsecalled away from her assasins and left Shallan in a boat, surrounded by assasins, with little to no idea how to use her powers, and her first question after she comes back isn't "What happened to Shallan?". 

3 hours ago, Calderis said:

The idea as I understand has basically said that in copying the Honorblades correctly down to which surges are granted, the Spren inadvertently copied the Oathpact itself. So the Knights would go to Braize in mimicry of the Heralds. 

But some Knights Radiant seem to bond Cultivation-spren, and I don't think we've gotten word that she was involved in the Oathpact. 

8 hours ago, Yata said:

2) The Mind will mostly recover from holding a Shard after the Shard is gone. Of course there will be a little amount of side effects, but mainly the Shard's influx is gone....but again this is meaningless as the Lifeless is made by the physical alone.

Any proof to back that up? I'm not even sure if a human -can- give up holding a Shard and survive the process.

11 hours ago, CaptainRyan said:

What I meant was that the Everstorm doesn't seem to weaken as it crosses the continent like a Highstorm does. Or, maybe even if it did, that means it is freshest when it hits Shinovar. 

Again though, that seems like a stretch. If Everstorms blow the wrong way, it should have gone out to sea after the Shattered Plains, then hit Shinovar at full force. Basically we've never seen an Everstorm at the lower end of it's passage. I'd be really curious if the Purelake gets weaker Everstorms as well as weaker highstorms. I suspect that Shinovar and the Purelake are going to have to experience massive cultural shifts in the near future.

19 hours ago, Trellium said:

Can't be that, Hoid's surprise at being able to hurt Kelsier at the well of ascension in Scadrial's Cognitive Realm in MSH rules out it being a strategic decision on Hoid's own part, and implies a more binding restraint. One that's conditions were not met by harming a cognitive shadow. 

That might be false correlation. Kelsier's a Cognitive ghost, Hoid is a flesh and blood person. It might be that he's shocked he can hurt Kelsier at all, considering their different statuses. Keep in mind that Scadrial doesn't have persistent Cognitive presences for people.

On 10/14/2017 at 7:02 PM, Krypton Savant said:

Hoid forbidden to hurt people by "other gods?" wonder what this could be. Other worldhoppers? Seventeenth Shard? Spren? The Horneaters see spren as gods.

It might be that hurting anyone on Roshar risks drawing Odium's attention. It could also just be Hoid's personality. Man seems like he's carrying around a lot of guilt for something, he might have a Doctor Whoish "I will not hurt people again because the last time was a doozy" thing.

Wasn't there a WoB that Sazed studying the corpses of Ati and Leras would have provided some interesting results? Regardless I'm going to go with: you might get a Lifeless that is more sentient than Arsteel, but that sentience is probably going to be tied closely to the Intent of the Vessel. Have fun with your Ruin-minded zombie...

I'm firmly on the side of the Recreance occurred by making the Radiants break the first Ideal. It's the only thing that makes sense that could hit every order at once. How'd it happen? Probably something to do with the Heralds putting death (literally the possible death of all of Roshar) above life.

I mean "constant level of power" Is kind of a stretch. We don't know what the conditions of a fresh Everstorm hitting Shinovar might be. It might be similar to a highstorm making landfall in the stormlands... in which case yeah, Shinovar is in trouble.

What's the sound of a one-armed Hedrazian clapping?

CL

What does a one-armed Hedrazian say when you ask him how he's doing? 

All right

15 hours ago, axcellence said:

Definitely it changed... Szeth’s later fights with Dalinar and Kaladin where he healed much faster...

There's a large difference from a laceration from a spear and getting hit by a man in Shardplate in the face. Adolin straight kills Parshendi with punches, and they are a lot tougher than one Shin man with no armor. I'm not surprised it takes him awhile to heal that, his Stormlight was probably working overtime just to keep him conscious.

1 minute ago, amflare said:

Silvery-white presumably. That's what color the Well of Ascension was.

I wonder if anyone would be able to tell the difference from looking at the earring.

Or Mraize isn't as clever as he appears to be. We haven't seen him without supervision. Also, being a badass warrior doesn't equal good on his own. Look at Wayne: badass warrior, needs Wax around to keep him pointed in the right direction.