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Those are some great examples in the OP, to which I'd add a few Brandon Kill-off Cameo ideas: MB: Final Empire - As one of the several soldiers clad in metal armor who end up getting used as living anchors or projectiles in an duel of Allomancers. Either during Vin vs. Shan Elariel's assassination team, or Kelsier's duel with Bendel the Inquisitor in the Square of the Survivor ("sorry, friend" indeed!) Well of Ascension - As the smaller koloss killed by another, larger koloss in Jastes' camp when Sazed first arrives there, for no obvious reason than later stated, "I hated him." Hero of Ages - As the Keeper that Marsh kills with a spike at the very beginning, in the Prologue. "I can tell you no more about the Synod!" Yeah right, Brandon. There's always another secret, isn't there? Shadows of Self - not killed on-screen, but mounted as one of the displays of Bloody Tan, someone writing at a desk with stacks of books all around him. (*shudder*) TWoK - obviously, one of the anonymous bridgemen in Bridge Four that get killed on Kaladin's first ever bridge run...

Part of becoming an Allomantic savant is having the access to the metal to burn more or less constantly for a long period of time. Spook became a tin savant, and Seekers (and maybe Copperclouds) often become savants just from frequent use of their power… But tin, bronze, and copper are very common, easy to obtain, and therefore cheap metals. To become a savant in gold would take a LOT of gold, eh? Probably the hardest of the FE era metals to become a savant in, even if you wanted to, other than atium, just based on opportunity cost. As for what effect it would have… Maybe the “other version”, the gold shadow, of the Allomancer would show what they’d be like had they never decided to become a gold savant, and how much the two hate each other is related to the waste of money and the pointlessness of what was achieved on the one side, and the presumptious judginess of the gold shadow on the other side. And by then the Augur in question barely needs to burn any gold at all to feel that dual self-loathing any more. LOL

Savantism isn’t just from “using the power” a lot, it’s from being saturated with Investiture for prolonged periods of time, which “stretches” the soul at a Spiritual level. Since Feruchemy is end-neutral, that means the Investiture is as well, which shouldn’t “stretch” anything unless you frequently do very large tap-dumps of Investiture, which can’t be sustained very often because you have to spend a lot of time putting that Investiture in there in the first place. So basically to become a Feruchemical savant, some kind of Compounding will be required. Like, Miles Hundredlives was almost certainly an F-gold savant who constantly tapped gold. Or maybe with medallion technology, a very easy and large scale supply of unsealed or unkeyed goldminds (like what Wayne got a hold of from Kelesina, but like a daily refill of that).

Heh, it turns out he always kind of assumed Ruin would eventually escape via subtle manipulation, he just couldn't see how, and laid his plans with the storage caverns and the kandra Resolution to give whoever came after him a chance to survive. So I wouldn't be surprised if his somewhat awesome last words were, in fact, pre-planned. "You don't know what I do for mankind. I was your god, even if you couldn't see it; by killing me, you have doomed yourselves..."

In the throne room, TLR could have smeared both Vin and Marsh without breaking a sweat. He didn't do it, and instead showed off his unlimited F-steel speed and Steelpushing the metals in their bodies because he is ancient, bored, OP and overconfident. He was flexing and monologuing for the sliver of fun and satisfaction it gave him to "shock and awe" his unworthy opponents while destroying them. Especially Marsh. Vin was a rarity, a skaa Mistborn who'd dared to try to attack him directly twice, but Marsh was someone he'd "upgraded" to be DOMINANT and had turned traitor. He definitely merited Extra Monologuing. And if you imagine living for 1000 years as the most magically OP being in the world, you can sort of see why. Within 100 years or so, nobody's going to remember any of this happened but you, who will also have an infinite coppermind potential to replay your own Greatest Hits in your copious, isolated down time. So he's probably used to acting out for the camera for his own later entertainment.

So, I mentioned Spook's upgrade mostly in the context of "Sazed did stuff immediately after Ascending that he probably wouldn't, or possibly even couldn't do Intent-wise, do in Wax's time after hundreds of years as Harmony". I mean, he carefully nurtured Wax as "His Ruin" (one of his chief "pawns") as a Crasher Twinborn who was "seasoned" in the Roughs, yet was head of a noble House with the commensurate standing in the Elendel Senate, and all that. And He has occasionally given Wax "a little help", such as arranging for his travel trunk with his Sterrions in it being in the same shipping container of the Vanishers as where his showdown with Miles occurred. If He could have "arranged" for Wax to be a Mistborn, or upgraded him at whim as with Spook, how much more effective a pawn would he have been? (Arguably more effective than a Crasher?) As for how the Southerners know about kandra and in what context. It seems highly likely (given how Allik and Jordis react) that they DO know they exist as immortal shapeshifters in some divinely appointed capacity; I somehow feel like it's not the same context that Steris is coming from, though. And I strongly suspect they were the Sovereign's priests that Allik described as being of "no people currently living among us". A strangely worded way of saying “a bygone people who died out”, but makes sense as “they are still alive but not among us, at least not as the same people”. In which case, Harmony surely knows about them and their shenanigans with the Sovereign (being as they're hemalurgic creatures), but were they commissioned or directed to those actions by Him, or merely permitted to act of their own free will (within boundaries...) in that regard? He's certainly not told TenSoon and the 3+ Generation kandra about it that are still around in the North. I also think that's what was going on when MeLaan "cocked an eyebrow, then made her skin translucent" in the milddle of Allik's impassioned talking to Jordis et al. while gesturing at MeLaan. She wouldn't understand their language, but Harmony probably DM'ed her to do it (thus the raised eyebrow as it would be a somewhat extraordinary circumstance, a literal Act of God for her). And I think your guess is right about how/why He didn't "reverse" the physiological changes to the Southerners - that, plus He may already have foreseen how he'd need those changes to guide them to needing to develop medallion technology (being dependent on heat medallions for everyday survival).

To recap: Kandra are "elevated mistwraiths" that were created by Rashek while Ascended from "all living Feruchemists", who in turn were all Terris. Rashek remade the world, moving land around (relocating Terris), creating ashmounts to offset the increased heat of the planet, and separating the Southern Hemisphere (with an uninhabitable "death zone" in between) as a kind of intentional "control group" of unmodified humans, in case his twiddles didn't work out. After Sazed "double Ascended" to Harmony, the world was remade yet again - "restored", for the most part. At the end of THoA, it says he dumped out what the pre-FE world looked like from "the detailed maps and charts of the Bennett people" from his copperminds and "restored the continents and oceans, the islands and coastlines, the mountains and rivers". But he obviously didn't stop there, because he then created the Basin with all of Rashek's storage cache/Ruiniation bunkers moved together into it, from which Spook, Ham, Breeze, and the rest of the Originators built Elendel and the surrounding cities. Apparently first he hit the "reset" button, and then realized "I'm GOD now, I can do what I WANT TO", including making Spook a Mistborn. (Until the Intent of Harmony had time to rein him in, "but you DON'T want to, do you?") What about the Southern Hemisphere, then? Was that always (even before Rashek) separated from the Northern Hemisphere, or did Harmony see some wisdom in keeping them separate (or some harm in rapidly reconnecting them) to the North? When it says Harmony "restored human physiology" to a pre-Rashek basis, undoing the adaptations to living under ash and consuming red/brown plants and all, why wouldn't he also have undone the adaptations to the Southerners to living in much higher temperatures (without ash)? But that kind of question has been posed to Brandon and officially RAFO'ed No, what I'm wondering about is what is implied - or not implied, full of loud silence - at the end of Bands of Mourning. When Steris steps in between Wax and Jordis (the Malwish captain of Allik's original ship and crew) to de-escalate tensions over possession of the Bands by giving it to the kandra, she assumes a lot about kandra and how Harmony has interacted with the Southerners: So, 1) Why would the Southerners "have stories of creatures like her"? Mistwraiths were all created from Terrisfolk in the beginning and would only become kandra via spikes given by TLR, and so only have existed in the Final Empire of the Northern Hemisphere. 2) For that same reason, the kandra in turn didn't seem to know about the Southeners, either. ReLuur didn't recognize the writing or origin of the "temple" that he found. At best it was all a ruse by Harmony to manipulate the two continents to meet in just this way - the kandra weren't in on it. 3) At the same time, Allik didn't bat an eye when MeLaan volunteered to walk through the booby traps at the temple, exhibiting superhuman imperviousness to physical trauma (the first time she did something overtly kandra-ish in his presence). I mean, he "gawked" as MeLaan casually ripped a spear out of her torso and said "if I lose a spike due to an explosive, you'd better be ready to stick it right back in". But more in surprise, not of "I didn't know this was a thing!" kind of reaction. And of course, those skeletal remains of the Sovereign's "priests", who Allik had described as "his closest servants... some of them eventually returned" from the temple to them to tell them about it... Seems like kandra? But then why would ReLuur, MeLaan, and VarSell have talked and acted like they knew nothing about the Southern folks and ways? Has Harmony created a "Second Foundation" group of kandra? Or were they somehow "rogue" kandra?

Harmony CAN do that to the kandra, and for that matter, to Marsh, as Ruin had done (or for that matter, a suitably charged-up Soother or Rioter might be able to do). But, as a rule, He does not (as Marsh notes, "his particular beliefs require that he allow [Marsh to think and to act differently than He would prefer]"). He's generally in close contact with the kandra, it would seem - all of them appear to be able to two-way-chat with God at any time - but that doesn't mean he "puppets" them often, or hardly at all. He doesn't always reply to the kandra's questions, either (such as when he mentioned things like "moving pictures" being in the future, as "you'll find out when it happens" or some such). When Bloody Tan pulls Lessie into the path of Wax's bullet, was that Harmony's act on Tan or "puppeting" Lessie? And he certainly had a lax enough grip on Lessie for her to go off and acquire that foreign godmetal spike, however that was done, without knowing what was going on. And when Lessie says "he's in my head again!" after Wax shoots her with the hemalurgic bullet, it "lets" Harmony seize control of her again. As in, it enabled him to do so. Which is enough of a "sword of Damocles" over her head for her to kill herself over, at that point.

To @AllomanticChainDude (adding to Invocation's reply) - yes, not only are you asking the right questions, nearly all the apparent paradoxes or "this doesn't make sense..." points you raise, will eventually make sense. This (Brandon Sanderson) is one guy who is not making it up as he goes along, only to end up trying to tie 20 loose ends into a single ball of yarn on the other side. There may or may not be different shades of "unreliable narrator" type stuff going on, though. Remember that we are always reading from one or another character's POV, which means we only know or see what that character knows or sees (or believes/assumes). Sometimes reading multiple POVs means you as a reader can spot things the character doesn't; and sometimes you're taken along for the same ride that they've been on all along, unwittingly. Don't spoil yourself, though. Entertaining as it is to see a "reaction post" like this, for your sake, I recommend you step away from this forum for as long as it takes to finish reading the first Mistborn Trilogy (at least). The spoiler period is long over for them, and "long established canon" from that series are often casually dropped in this and other forums too.

I’ve been wondering if there is a connection between “the Passions” and the fact that Odium was the god of humanity when they arrived to Roshar (who values passion, and considered that a core aspect of his Intent, at least as Rayse). Whether the eyebrows are somehow a reflection of that, who knows… It certainly doesn’t indicate any lingering ties to Odium, as we see them also worshiping the Heralds as well as forming Radiant bonds.

In general, especially with something like the Cosmere works which contain easter eggs or more overt hints across series, for best effect... Read them in published order. For example, you don't have to have read Warbreaker before Words of Radiance; but if you have, there's this one scene at the end of WoR that suddently becomes a whole lot cooler As for Bands of Mourning before Rhythm of War... Remembering that chronologically, the events of Mistborn Era 2 happen AFTER the "first five" of Stormlight Archive means it's not a spoiler for "stuff that happens", but I still think it would be more in line with the "reveals to the reader as intended by the author" to read them in that order. I can think of one or two things like that.

More like, if 1 person in a group of 4 is guilty (I think is what you meant), the odds of you randomly picking one of them and that person being the guilty one is 1/4. I think Jerfier was confusing this with the number of possible ways to order the four people: 4x3x2x1. That doesn't matter here because all the innocent people are equally innocent; you don't have to correctly categorize the four as Innocent1 (Totally Innocent), Innocent2 (Rather Innocent), Innocent3 (Barely/Technically Innocent), and Guilty (Not Innocent).

Hmm, that is actually the first time I've read or thought about that angle: that B-A-M granted "forms of power" not by making Voidspren available to parsh on a one-to-one basis but proxying herself as the voidspren in a one-to-many bond, which is why trapping her had that effect. (Which would also mean ALL the parsh who hadn't fled as "listeners" had done so.) I think that's very plausible, as the earliest sentient voidspren we see to reactivate for the Final Desolation (Ulim) had to be brought to the gathering "storm" of voidspren in the Cognitive Realm across to Roshar in a gemstone, in the Venli flashback in Ch. 57 of Rhythm of War (where the Ulim-bearing gemstone was given to her by Axindweth in the Ch. 52 flashback): And Ulim clearly had no idea what B-A-M had done to achieve what she had before getting trapped. It hadn't involved Odium or the Voidspren. Yes, the more I think about it the more I think that is how it worked. If that had been spelled out somewhere in RoW I missed it entirely! Which means B-A-M also "granting Voidlight" is even more mysterious - what "forms of power" (Regals) make use of that? Even Venli wondered if her ability to draw in Voidlight was due to her being Regal, or being a Surgebinder with a bond to Timbre who could also use Voidlight due to the Voidspren trapped in her gemheart. We never see any other Regal drawing in Voidlight.

Hm, ok, I slipped a bit wrt the Mistborn forum, I just removed its casual use as it wasn’t really pertinent except as context to the WoB I quoted. thanks

Well whatever it is that Kelsier has done to get himself rolling in the Physical Realm, he is still tied to Scadrial (unable to get off-world), per hints in Stormlight Archive about him sharing the Heralds' "affliction" (of being trapped to Roshar) and how being bonded to a sentient spren is why Radiants would be unable (or find it very difficult) to leave their home system, per this WoB: And it's not using a hemalurgic spike per se that's the problem, as we have other WoBs that Marsh of the Twenty+ Spikes would be perfectly capable of worldhopping: It's somewhat implied from context here that Kelsier's limitation is similar to a Radiant finding it difficult to leave Roshar with a spren bond - the spren, not the Radiant, being firmly tied to the Shardic power of which they are mini-splinters (Homor, Cultivation, even Odium for an "enlightened" one like Glys). Meanwhile, Vasher/Zahel and other Returned don't seem to have this problem, as all the Five Scholars are known to have worldhopped, despite also basically being Cognitive Shadows. It could have to do with the fact that Kelsier being able to permanently resist the Call of the Beyond due to having Ascended as Preservation for a while, and thus linked to being near to Preservation... Is that the "something about his Investiture" distinct from Marsh's (who at this point, has Investiture from all three of Allomancy, Feruchemy, and Hemalurgy) that binds him so? Like, Marsh's Investiture is somehow "built in" to him the way Vasher's Breaths and Divine Breath are, but what keeps Kelsier hanging around is linked to Preservation at a deep enough level that he can't go unless Sazed does?

Jah Kaved is west of Alethkar, and Roshar is a pretty big planet, so it could easily be like two hours earlier, maybe? LOL

Oooh, that's a good interpretation, I like it. However, even ignoring the use of a gendered pronoun in "his throat" as referring to Shallan (as these types of visions could well be gender neutral and it's the speaker's biases creeping in), Shallan was far from a "suckling child", being what, about ten or eleven years old at the time of her mother's attack (being as it happened 7+ years before TWoK). Still, it's plausible as it could be a vision sort of from the POV of Shallan's mother, who even if crazy probably still loved her, and a parent often pictures the "little one" version of a child for the rest of that child's life. (Not usually the "suckling child" version, but maybe for a mother?)

Expanding somewhat on the OP, here are the relative timing we know about these and related events in chronological order, as far as I can make out: At Aharietiam, 9 out of 10 Heralds agree to leave Taln holding the bag while the rest of them unbond their Honorblades and walk off the job. Thousands of years after that, Ba-Ado-Mishram somehow gains the ability to Connect to the parsh Becoming a "mini-god" that can grant Voidlight and Regal forms of power to them via Voidspren But, not able to bring back the Fused (still held back by Taln's upholding of the Oathpact) She enables the "False Desolation" - no Heralds or Fused, but Radiants against the Unmade leading the parsh with forms of power Come to think of it, what does it mean that B-A-M was able "to provide Voidlight" to the parsh people ("drawer 30-20, fourth emerald")? There are no Regal forms that use Voidlight, right? Only the Fused are able to use it for Surgebinding or healing? How this was suddenly possible is not yet known, not even to Ulim... Did another Shard do something? (Cultivation? Autonomy?) The False Desolation is what caused the Radiants - led by Melishi the Bondsmith - to capture Ba-Ado-Mishram to stop it At some point during or before the False Desolation, Honor stopped creating honorspren Himself, delegating that to the Stormfather Sylphrena and her siblings are the first and only generation he creates before the Recreance Syl had a Radiant before Kaladin, a kindly old man who "had fought and died", presumably in the False Desolation B-A-M was imprisoned by Melishi, the only Bondsmith of that generation. That required a spren bond (to be a Bondsmith). At least one Herald, Kalak, by now of suspect sanity as well as integrity, was involved and present As a side effect, the capture of B-A-M entraps the singers' Connection/Identity to Roshar It also somehow affected the mechanics of the Nahel bond... The Sibling broke off their bond with Melishi before the Recreance, as they were not "killed" in that event. Honor wasn't dead yet by the time of the Recreance either, as he was able to record an Honorvision showing it happening at Feverstone Keep. The Stormfather says that when "that generation of Radiants" learned the truth about the roots of the singer/human conflict - that the humans had broken an agreement to limit themselves to Shinovar - Honor did not support them, instead he "raved, speaking of the Dawnshards", and "promised that Surgebinders would do the same to Roshar". And now, the Recreance! Mayalaran says that the spren decided along with their Radiants to break off the bond - not knowing "deadeyes" would result. Those Radiant spren knew something and agreed with their bonded humans that Nahel bonds were "too dangerous" to continue with (related to Honor's "promise" that Surgebinders would rend Roshar as had happened to Ashyn?) However, neither the highspren nor the Skybreakers were in agreement (were they already led by Nale at that time?) If the Stormfather knows what this is, and one would think that he does, he has not told Dalinar. Some time AFTER all of this, Honor is fatally wounded by Odium. He doesn't die immediately - He's able to make the Honorvisions, and charge a Splinter of himself to graft to the SF with them.

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Isn't the easiest answer to this question, "it wasn't the Stormfather who said that to Gavilar?" Also, there is no Shard of Ruin by the time Gavilar is having these visions - Harmony double-Ascended several hundred years prior to TWoK. Tanavast (the Vessel) leaving behind a separate CR from what attached to the SF, that seems very weird to me (who leaves two shadows?). And we've seen Vessels die and give up their Shards already, they... Don't leave ghosts, unless of the Kelsier variety (i.e., had Ati refused to go Beyond in Secret History), and even then Ghost Kel is not someone that can "materialize" in the Physical Realm. There's no Shardic power left to a Ghost Vessel, they've given up the Power, however they can refuse to go Beyond by virtue of their spirit having been "expanded" from having once Ascended (except Kelsier appears to be uniquely nuts to do this). Well, they can refuse except for Rayse, I suppose, who got Nightblooded into oblivion (Go To Beyond - Go Directly To Beyond - Do Not Pass Shadesmar, Do Not Collect $200). Autonomy, now, that is a possible lead for who's interfering/masquerading.

Yes, Vedens are often described with red hair as a typical trait; there’s a red-headed Veden in Kaladin’s squad that was wiped out by Helaran (well, except for the several who were killed in front of him by Amaram’s people), and a “crier” proclaiming an edict in the warcamps early in Words of Radiance (Ch. 5) is described as black haired with streaks of red that mark her as having either “Veden or Horneater heritage” in Sigzil’s mind. Helaran at least is described as being red-haired, and identified as a Veden by Amaram thereby, with nothing else to go on as “the attacker’s face was ruined” in telling a disguised Shallan how he supposedly won his Shards on the battlefield. Meaning, the red hair alone (while not being Horneater in size) identified him as Veden. I can’t remember offhand if Balat, Wikim, or Jushu are specifically described with red hair (I think her father was?), but I think it’s safe to say that red hair is very Veden. Rock even surmised it was due to some intermixing with the Horneaters long ago (as Jah Kaved borders the Peaks), jokingly calling Shallan “little sister” from time to time.

Everybody’s focused on the fact that Chanarach is described as having flowing red hair, plus the fact that the so-called Stormfather feels that “a Herald has died” right around the time that Shallan would have been attacked by her mother (the day of Gavilar’s death), as indicating the two people must be the same… And you know what? It wouldn’t be the first time Brandon pulled a fast one on us readers, showcasing an “obvious” conclusion only to have it play out completely differently. But this time, It’d truly be… a (please don’t ban me) Red hair-ing.

First, Syl was definitely “dead” or “killed”, by her own description and the Stormfather’s, both of who are in a position to recognize when a spren is “dead” that way… Second, while it’s true that the Shardblades wielded by people on Roshar are “locked in” Blade forms of dead Recreance generation spren of 3+ Ideal Radiants who discarded their Shards as seen by Dalinar in the Honorvision at Feverstone Keep, Testament was never “dead” in the same way, as Shallan was fully able to summon and dismiss her Shardblade (Testament) before saying any Truths to Pattern. Otherwise, that “strongbox” wherein Shallan’s father locked away the child-sized Blade she manifested would have contained that “deadspren” Blade, same as any other, but Shallan mentions that it “burst to mist” instead. (Note: this is what she remembers, or thinks she remembers, so that too could be a lie… Like, maybe there really WAS a “Shardknife” in that lock box all those years, until Shallan saw fit to summon Testament as a Blade against Tyn?) So it seems that Syl was more truly “dead” - not incorporated as a Blade because Kaladin was not yet of the Third Ideal - but that Shallan’s spren Testament was never as dead as Syl was. The bond to Shallan was still there, at a low level, in a way that Syl’s bond with Kaladin was not. And thus presumably still is there, at the end of RoW. It could also work that taking a second Cryptic in a Nahel bond “on top” of that earlier one has a weird effect, too. We will just have to find out. But my suspicion is that Shallan has more to remember about what Truth(s) were told to Testament originally, in order to fully revive that spren bond. We used to count Shallan’s Lightweaver “Truths” as being “I killed my father” (said in Kharbranth, in order to demonstrate to Jasnah that she could enter Shadesmar) and “I killed my mother” (said in Urithiru after confronting Mraize there), and wondering how she could have Soulcast that goblet to blood, or summoned a Blade, before Urithiru; but now we know that the spren that talked to her in Kharbranth was Testament. That murder happened long after she’d disavowed (and “killed”) Testament, so it couldn’t have been one of her original Truths to that spren; yet even telling Testament a NEW Truth didn’t revive the bond! So counting what Truths count towards which Nahel bond of hers and with what outcome gets crazier and crazier, as well as muddying what Shallan is supposed to do to revive Testament when it was relatively straightforward for Syl (whose last words to Kaladin before “dying”, short of screaming as he got one last gasp of Stormlight, were, “You must speak the Words… Find them.”)

Plus, as we can see in Rhythm of War, Crazy Ishar has “reclaimed” his Honorblade from Neturo son-Vallano, and Mraize strongly implies earlier that this is not a unique situation (not that another Herald has regained their original Blade, but that they’re not all kept in Shin hands any longer): If they were all gathered in Shinovar in the care of the same people who’d had them for some years, as Szeth and his family appear to have done (such that Szeth had even trained in all ten Surges), they wouldn’t likely be called “poorly tracked”. Szeth also recalled having a sister and and a mother while also reflecting on how “his family had been given to the Honorblades” before he’d been made Truthless. This is going to get messier before it gets neater.

Well, Vasher/Zahel doesn't have to die (i.e., to give up his Divine Breath) to transfer enough Breath to Navani to reach the Second Heightening, assuming he has that many. He knows the Command to give away Breath without giving up his Divine Breath (it's how he established Peacegiver's Treasure in the first place, and all subsequent God Kings have done), and how to do a partial transfer (if nothing else, to put enough Breath in an Awakened object before doing a full transfer, then regaining what he'd put into the first object). So if you're speculating on why Vasher/Zahel is on Roshar as "the reason he Returned so many years ago", like he's Endowment's Long Game Pawn, Navani getting perfect pitch could be part of it, but it wouldn't require him to give up his life to fulfill. More likely, he's been put there to combine his Scholarly knowledge of Realmatics to succeed in converting Stormlight or Lifelight (or Voidlight, even?) into Breath - or to help Navani achieve Heightening-like effects with Lifelight, maybe via a fabrial. Fabrial... Now there's a thought. Zahel likened himself to the Fused: a "Type Two invested entitiy. Dead man walking... The longer one of us exists, the more like a spren we become". And Raboniel tells Leshwi that it's only a matter of time before the humans are "discovering they can do the same for us" as for Ba-Ado-Mishram and Nergoul: trap them in a perfect gem. What if you could put HIM into the right kind of (perfect) gemstone? Imagine if drawing Light through him, like a filter, might be equivalent to having that much Investiture as Breath for a Heightening (perfect pitch being only the Second Heightening, or 200 Breaths)? Of course one cannot hold so much Light for long, it leaks away, but Navani could have perfect pitch for a while that way.