Arinian
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I think here chance that we not gonna see it in this game, cause we have two rules about number of actions and they can be assumed as conflicting... or maybe GMs can fix this rules to work one with another.
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Missed that. After you will share your alignment, fair trade that would be.
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What the reasons???? What I don't see ANY reasons? I already answered to all his "reasons". I voted on Mint cause I'm neutral I don't want random lynches, or you counting as reason that I guessed that Flash is Lover? Two votes are bandwagon? I knew 100% that someone in this game have vote manip(I'm talking about Sedatives) and solidified lynch nothing else, I just wanted to avoid random lynch. And I was right when I've done what I've done cause winter retracted her vote and so if not I or Mark lynch would result in random. Also damnation people I really should every time write IT'S JUST A GUESS when it's just a GUESS so no one would try to lynch me for that or what? I'm damnation neutral, I'm not Epic. I can go inactive for rest of the game if you want so.
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You did not learn anything from your previous game? Where was jester role elim(truthless) and secret role elim(Nale). This is blackout game we can have here anything. Also, okay. Lets imagine if I really had tried to convince(and I'm not) people that Mint is Flash's lover... What I will get from that? No, really what? I can't see any profit from that, it's would just make me to look bad if real Lover will reveal himself. Maybe I'm missing some profit from it, but really I don't see it. So I don't understand in what you accusing me... it's like accusing someone that in RP he\she is Epic. Also Jon was not information expert but: And if I'm not wrong he only have had 1 item called explosives or something like that.
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Why he should be called Lover? You have seen some rule about it or what or something else that I don't know? Or you know something about it that others don't know? Share with us why you so pretty sure in it. You can look LG35 where lovers role were named not Lovers(but something else, too lazy to check), of course LG35 was not blackout game but that doesn't mean that in this game both Lovers should be called Lovers.
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I think I can give you answers for both of us. I think all what Mark wrote about factions is guesses, just like it was guess from me about what happened with Flash, both and I and Mark can be wrong in our guesses... so I don't see in what you trying to accuse us... in that we playing in blackout game and trying to guess about what happening around? That in what you accusing us? Maybe I'm wrong and it's not only guesses from Mark *Shrug*. Also if someone missed I will quote Ecth's post where he says what Sedatives do:
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Write up very often don't says truth, in some games were protect roles protected themselves it was revealed in write up as someone else protecting them. So I don't think that you can make such judgments based only on write up. Also if you people so interested why I'm voted on Mint answer is to solidify vote, we have had only 2 votes on Mint without my vote and we heard atleast about one kind of vote manipulations in this game(Sedatives) and so it's was easy to deny lynch just by only sedative, also I want to say that winter later retracted vote from Mint and so if I or Mark not voted on Mint than there would be random lynch. Also I'm neutral(but that the secret) so I'm not cared who would be lynched if it's not me.
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My role was vetoed...
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Not much more complicated then Aonar's rule with elements which I'm sure will give you no less headache. But if you want you can keep rule with roleclaim restrictions(just look on it more closely... I'm think there might be some sneaks to avoid this rule). Also not sure how my rule with roleclaim restrictions should work... should it instantly kill through all protections and extra lives? Or just simple unblockable attack on player? Or even blockable attack on player? I honestly thought about it as unblockable attack(so people if they really want to roleclaim they would be able to do that but in exchange they will lose extra life)... but leaving for you to decide how it should work. Also I'm very excited
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Wow I missed your rule, looks like interesting role(thought about making something similar). And how his Self-sacrifice will work? Give him extra life or extra life for vials? Huh... and what if someone would die on this turn... blood mage would instantly lose? Interesting what GMs would do with that
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I'm decided to change my rule, previous one it's too boring. So... my rule will be role. Blood Mage Win condition: Kill everyone.(If we will have some immortal roles or invulnerable to night kill they not counted for Blood Mage's win condition) Blood mage will have unusual action system some actions will require normal action points(Shortly NAP, sounds nice ) and other abilities will require Vials of Blood. Also I think I should clarify that all abilities except vote manipulations is night actions(If no other is said)! Passive abilities: Power within: You have +1 extra life. (I wrote +1 cause I saw that there somewhere was rule that everyone have 2 lives, so if everyone will have 2 lives blood mage will have 3 lives). Executioner's price: by participating in successful lynch you gaining 0,5 vial of blood.(By successful lynch meant that you voted for player and he\she was lynched, even if player have extra lifes and survived lynch you gaining vial). Even I have my limits: Can't use in one cycle two abilities(items) with similar effects. (I think I should clarify this one. Blood mage can't use two kills(with some exceptions), vote manips, etc in one cycle, even if it's different actions or even if you have item which can be used with similar effect to your abilities.)(Edited. Maybe would be wise to allow use items and abilities with similar effect in one turn, leaving it to GMs) Normal abilities.(Actions that require normal action points(which in normal games for normal roles used for abilities or item use)). Blood Mage have only one NAP(!) each turn and number of NAPs can't be increased by no other rules(not even by writing in ketek ) or items or etc.(Edited. Looked throug rules and I think maybe part about that number of actions can't be increased should be revised cause we have really many items, but leaving it to GMs to decide. Also it will help to avoid conflicts with other rules(one with keteks)) Blood abilities:(actions wich for use need only vials of blood). Blood Mage starts game with 1 Vial of Blood. I don't know... maybe that role too powerful or too weak(I'm leaning weak or normal *shrug*, cause I had put enough limits and vials of blood is not endless and you should choose wisely what to use) for this win condition(only thing that looks really powerful to me it's Soul Transfer... for obvious reasons). Mehh... anyway I'm not very good in balancing things so now it's GM's headache. Edited something. Also costs on abilities maybe should be changed... but mehh... what ever... I'm bad in balancing.
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*Shrug*
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I don't think that here were 2 kills, only one. Winter was killed by Reckoner's. And Flash and Mint were lovers... just look on their items, I think Flash "traded" items on drugs and gifted "traded" items to his "Lover" to Mint I mean(Also it's easy to prove if I right about that, we just need to ask what items were "traded" from people on drugs). I think that was something with their win condition. And it's usual for both Lovers to die when one of them dies.
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I honestly don't have any problems with voting on Mint.
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Hey! So what is going here? Are we gonna lynch someone or random lynch again?
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I know, I know... post restrictions very dangerous . Also easy to miss some sneaky way to dodge rules like that.
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I'm signing up as Fess. I'm voted for 72 h cycles. Rule: "No one can roleclaim(not applies to alignment(neutrals can't claim even alignment)(Not even hints about role)(No, you can't say your actions). You can't claim role nowhere nor in thread nor in PM nor in doc. Really nowhere, even elims don't know each others roles and can't claim(GMs can change this part if they decide that this hurts elims too much). If you somehow forgot and roleclaimed to someone then you instantly die and your items would be randomly given to people who have PM with you. Oh sorry almost forgot, you can reveal roles(alignments) of other people if you some kind of scan role, or you just can lie about someone's role(not yours role) if you want. After someone else said your role you can answer to them "No" or "Yes"(of course you can lie(if elims doing roleclaim like that(I mean they asking something like "Your role is extra life?" and other elim in doc answers "Yes" or "No") they lose ability to kill for 1 cycle for each person who claimed(Part with elims can be changed on "Someone who claimed can't use abilities(can't use even faction kill, passive extra lifes also don't work) or items for 1 cycle"))." This rule looks really horrible and should be vetoed, or changed on "everyone can claim roles only in rhymes(no less then 150 words)." Or I just can create other rule... Can I create roles instead of rules?
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It was fun game... I think... 20% to die, more then enough for me
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First, I don't like idea with leaving lynch to random, cause here Alv in this game and so my chance to be lynched by random is something like 73-75 % (especially if he is elim) Second, I don't think that Jon is elim and he should be voted, also I don't think that he was "mean" with his vote. He voted on someone for understandable reasons. For village is important to get information, but death caused by random lynch provides not even close amount of information and discussion as normal lynch. That's really easy for elim to hide in random, also when there starts atleast some discussion about lynch you can build some opinion on players, maybe gather some suspicions. Also I believe that Elith is neutral, he was first who claimed neutral and how he acting is really "neutral" behavior in my eyes, elim would be more careful about what to say, and looked like that Elith not very cares about lynch, his advice is also understandable and suitable for neutral. His protect power will dissapear after that turn, cause as I understand he was gifted with that power only for one turn. Also from your post I got feeling that you are the one who gifted him with power. Just feeling... hmm.. Also there high chance that I would be inactive on 24th and 25th. Will vote later.
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Yes, I think here could be some mechanic connected with Calamity(some random turning into epics, but that just my guess). From what you said I can assume that it's probably gifter who gave you abilities, if it's only for this cycle.
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I was not very active this cycle... but anyway there was not much to discuss. Oh... I hope Seonid added role whose win condition it's to kill all neutrals or some certain neutrals I really hope he added
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So... I never played blackout games like that before(Closest one which I played was LG28, but I don't think that LG28 can be counted as full blackout). And there no lunch today or kill... sooo... maybe I should write some RP, don't know probably later(or not)
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I'm dead in LG37... so I signing up as Fess.
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Okay, guys I'm back . I was inactive cause... let's just say that I was ill(of course if someone wants more details I can give them ). I just skimmed through thread and don't have any solid suspiciouns. But Dalinar's posts on first day felt off to me, soo... Dalinar.(No, I voting for him not cause he voted for me)
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Naahhh... it's really normal behavior for Stink. In previous game he also all time was saying something like " You wrong; I'm right; he\she not elim; he\she is elim".
