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  1. Stick.
    I just realised rollover is nearly upon us vote count anyone???
  2. Stick.
    Okay but - hear me out. If we're open to speculating a bus, why does Orlok get a pass for letting Araris die? Sure, e!Orlok didn't actively participate in the potential bus, but he still played a crucial part in it. Like I've said before, if the Fang was gonna kill one elim either way (unavoidable, given e!Elder), bussing a teammate is possibly the better case scenario for the elims.
  3. Stick.
    you sir have been demoted from blue. I agree with Mat that if Striker flips E, I would be a lot more suspicious of you. What about Striker? I definitely see what you're saying, and it's part of the reason I've got Archer in my top three suspicions - but for now I'd much rather see Striker flip. edit: Oh and also, to everyone saying Orlok is nearly conf good - why? Is it just his vote retraction from last cycle?
  4. Stick.
    Thaid, TUN, Xino, Mat, Orlok, Aman, Archer, JNV, Striker, Stick, Bort, TJ Green are village reads, blue are mild village reads. That leaves: Striker, TJ, Archer, JNV, Aman. This list is more-or-less ordered from stronger suspicious to milder suspicions. Took TUN out for lack of content to go off of.
  5. Stick.
    This is true - I found your response satisfactory in the sense that I didn’t feel the need to question it further or comment on it. Like I said, playing the inquisitor a lot of the time it’s a pressure tactic thing. Off my PM with Thaid, I think I’m leaning slight vill tentatively
  6. Stick.
    Alright I've got time now so here. Striker Posts 1. Agrees with Mat that there are 4 elims, let's use the fang now. (Very direct and succinct, albeit because of sickness. NAI.) 2. Explains why the fang must be used immediately - we have the largest number of villagers alive at this point after all. (Very strong opinion here, stands out in contrast to Araris' view. Could see the elim team deciding to offer both takes to the thread, perhaps a form of distancing.) 3. Agrees with illwei that using the fang now would prevent elims from not distancing too hard. (Nothing of much significance, except that Striker did not bring this point up in his previous post outlining why we must use the fang now) 4. Throws an unexplained vote on Bort (I dont know who it was that brought up that Striker and Bort shared opinions about the Fang, so this vote was weird - I agree), but prior to this, again explains why we should use the fang early (So far, all Striker's talked about is the fang mechanic) - says that he is concerned about losing the Elders before this happens, in addition to village numbers going down. (This statement is interesting, in light of Araris' role. There was an elim elder. The elims knew that delaying the Fang would not help them - there's nothing they can do to assuredly stop us from using it unless one of their own dies. Sure, they could be hoping that our numbers would dwindle down so much that we wont get half the players to vote for it, but I mean, they can never be sure of this. The village will always outnumber the elims, until we lose.) 5. Switches vote to Xino because of a gut feeling (Something that sticks out here is just the general oddness and casual fluidity of his vote - I can see e!Striker trying to channel his MR56 playstyle here, trying to appear village). But a reads list has been posted. Yay! Araris, Aman, and myself left out because apparently we had not left enough of an impression on Striker lol. (I have a feeling that if Striker is evil, he would throw in one teammate in each of those three tiers.) 6. Likes mlerp (NAI) ~~~~* Brief intermission here to address Araris' post where he votes on Striker. The interaction that takes place here is why I've voted on Striker - because I just can't make sense of why Araris would do this. Striker had zero votes on him at this point, and as Mat points out later, Mat had a greater number of people in his village reads list (same reason why Araris had found Striker suspicious). I was the leading vote at this point, so why did Araris go out of his way try to pursue a different target when no teammates were in danger? *~~~~~ 7. Striker responds to Araris' vote with a vote on Araris, and accuses him of 'extreme reaching'. (I agree with this, it was reaching. But again, why. Araris later responds to this, asking Striker this very question - why would Araris bother with this vote? Well it makes perfect sense to do as e/e IMO. And Araris also says so himself. This is some weird IKYK, but I'm going to try and ignore that for now.) 8. Thanks Mat for helping his case. (NAI.) 9. Responds to Araris' post, arguing that an Araris/Striker e/e scenario isnt the only one that would make sense here. Says that he doesn't think Mat is evil. Actually lemme just c/p this part here: I don't know how I glossed over this before, but everything about that bolded part screams elim to me. It just feels so...redundant? Especially after Striker had accused Araris of reaching, just moments ago, which implies that the reason was not sound nor good. And the 'vote on me for some reason' also just sounds very off. Like...like it's trying to sound innocent and confused? but also?? You get what I mean, right? 10. Responds to Mat admitting that maybe he'd reacted too hard to Araris' vote, maybe cuz of his sickness. (Yeah...or maybe cuz it was meant to be performative? ) 11. Asks for VC (NAI.) 12. Posts vote count and says: Notably does not even consider voting Araris. Reminds me of when Stink had to choose between three people who were up for the exe, and he told the thread he was indifferent to voting on any of the two that weren't me. (We were e/e.) 13. Posts (erroneous) VC, brings up the possibility of a bus, says he cannot decide which one it could be. 14. Post elaborating on the fang thing again. Okay yeah that's all
  7. Stick.
    Actually you know what, Striker I’ll explain in a bit Thaid
  8. Stick.
    To be fair, if the Araris train hadn’t taken off I would’ve definitely tried to find another exe target/switched back over to Thaid. I was online for the entirety of EoD which is the only reason I took that risk. Speaking of which, to everyone side eyeing Bort for having voted Thaid - I asked/convinced Bort to vote in that direction in PMs (Bort was in favour of an Archer exe more). I was very much scrambling to gather those votes If the Fang hadn’t gone off last cycle and we hadn’t exe’d an elim, surely we would’ve used it C2, no? So the outcome would’ve been the same either way.
  9. Stick.
    I've been v v busy at uni so I'm gonna try to make this quick I chose to use it - but also, what's the point of this question? I wasnt safe, I was up for the exe And I'll be honest, I wasnt feeling the Thaid exe all that much. Yes, he had done some suspicious things, but as Orlok pointed out in our PM (and as many people said in thread), a Thaid exe would not have given us much info and he always seems suspicious so I thought it'd be better to switch to Araris, since I saw that many people were sussing him. Also, I don't think I ever explained this to the thread (brought it up to Orlok in PMs though) but what made me suspect Araris was the fact that he 'poke' voted Mat in the beginning and then switched to Striker (and later, me). This stood out to me because from what I've picked up, Araris tends to leave 'stab' votes on people during C1s and doesn't usually take his vote off form there. So switching over from Mat to Striker for a small and vague reason just felt off. And then of course, Araris' vote on me only made me more suspicious. yeah, and I also didnt just wanna vote on anybody just to save my own skin. After a point it started to feel like I was exploiting Thaid's chaotic playstyle just to save myself, since everybody had some level of suspicion on him, so I tried to go for another viable exe A healthy amount of paranoia never hurt anyone They basically responded to Mat's vote on them in a weird way (immediate self-pres vote on me, even though Thaid had only one on them at that point). There were other things like them being hedgy about when to use the Fang etc but the former was the main reason for my suspicion. I was trying to get into dat elim mindset uh >:) Currently theorising that e!Archer might've voted on Araris there, but I'm looking more into it. If an elim was gonna die to the fang anyway, why not bus one who's on the chopping block.
  10. Stick.
    @The Unknown Novel you were online during last cycle but chose not to post - were you the fanged elim? update on reads is that I've definitely grown less suspicious of xino - told Mat in PMs towards the end of last turn, doesnt have anything to do with the flip. The more I read and reread their posts and they seem to make me lean village. The fact that they were okay with voting alongside me might be a village thing? Though in light of Araris' flip, I think there might be some significance in the fact that xino 'forgot' to assign him a read. If Archer is a villager, it means that Araris did not distance himself at all from any teammates the entire cycle, unless Striker is E. Or you are. But I mean Araris brought up both of those last two scenarios as possibilities, so I dont know what to think of that. Araris switched over from Striker to me when the votes were: And of course that brought it up to a tie between Thaid and I. Based off just this, my suspicion for Thaid has increased. That said, I can definitely see an elim tying votes between two villagers because- why not? They'd love extra chaos, plus everyone wants to exe the counter wagon in the next cycle. >>
  11. Stick.
    YESSSSS no elim kill??
  12. Stick.
    YAYYY
  13. Stick.
    oh man under 50 minutes, that's right @Bort would you be down for switching to Araris? @Illwei if I remember correctly, you suspected Araris too? I am so glad there's no vote manip
  14. Stick.
    Wait, Mat voted on Thaid?? I dont- @Kasimir can we get a GM-approved VC here please
  15. Stick.
    tbh I dont either - we have to wait for a flip first :P. Think it'll be clearer in hindsight. I dont think this is true - doesnt Thaid only have two votes?
  16. Stick.
    Off the top of my head, you, Striker, illwei, and Bort wanted it used today. And I've already sent in my order - that makes 4. I find it odd that Xino moved from voting on me to voting alongside me, especially because I was also gunning for them. Not that I'm complaining, Xino. I'm grateful for the support :P. My gut also says that Archer is up to something.
  17. Stick.
    I’m pretty sure most people wanted it used immediately?
  18. Stick.
    Everyone wait I just had a thought Okay so, elims have already ideally picked one person from their team to die in the case that we activate the Fang today, right? If you were an elim, wouldn’t you much rather just orchestrate a BUS on this person publicly in-thread and subsequently gain massive village cred for it instead of just having them die to the Fang??? Cuz it does seem like we’re using the Fang rn.
  19. Stick.
    I already sent in the order - I wasn’t in favour of using it today but I’ve since changed my mind
  20. Stick.
    Should we try Araris?
  21. Stick.
    VC: Stick(4): TJ, Orlok, Thaid, Araris Thaid(4): Mat, Stick, Bort, Xino Bort(1): Archer Araris(1): Striker Okay what about Archer?
  22. Stick.
    You know what, I’m okay with an Araris exe too :] Guys you CANNOT exe me today. I’m okay with any exe today tbh, apart from my village reads
  23. Stick.
    I'm willing to join you on Thaid. The Bort exe doesn't seem to be going anywhere, so would you consider switching to Thaid? @xinoehp512 you had Thaid in your Bad Bucket - same question as above. :eyes: @Araris Valerian what do you think of Thaid? VC: Stick(4): TJ, Orlok, Xino, Thaid Thaid(2): Mat, Stick Bort(1): Archer Aman(1): Bort Striker(1): Araris Araris(1): Striker edit: @Amanuensis I know you're probably still catching up but it'd be great if you voted please @The Unknown Novel hello there edit2: @StrikerEZ you have them in your elim reads too - fancy switching over? edit3: @|TJ| as well - got Thaid in your elim reads. Damn I...might as well tag the whole thread at this point xD
  24. Stick.
    Vote Count: JNV(0): Mat Stick(4): TJ, Orlok, Xino, Thaid Mat(0): Araris Bort(1): Archer, Striker TJ(0): Thaid Xino(2): Stick, Striker Aman(1): Bort Thaid(1): Mat Striker(1): Araris Cleaner VC: Stick(4): TJ, Orlok, Xino, Thaid Xino(2): Stick, Striker Bort(1): Archer Aman(1): Bort Thaid(1): Mat Striker(1): Araris This is prone to errors so please let me know if I've missed any votes/retractions Yeahhh that honestly makes me pause too. @Matrim's Dice you mentioned Thaid sounding off in PMs - could you elaborate on that?
  25. Stick.
    Some reads: Village Mat (initial misinterpretation of rules; thought progression from there on out seems very natural) Striker (gut read; just tone I guess - should probably revisit) illwei (mainly the paragraph outlining why using the Fang after some elims have died is a bad idea - only slight vill here tho cuz I wouldn't put it past them to fake this for village cred) Bort (Just cuz I don't think an elim would phrase a sentence this way: Bolded mine. Writing this, I think an elim should recognise that just this might be enough to get them exed) Elim Xino (reasons previously given) Archer (I think there's a good chance xino/archer are e/e - they've got just the right amount of back-and-forth in-thread and Archer has sussed xino in our PM as well, but says he doesnt want to exe them just yet as they are a returning player. Which is understandable, but I think this is worth considering) Thaid (their vote on me and reaction to Mat's vote on them) Null Orlok Araris JNV TJ Aman TUN
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