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Ecthelion III

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  1. Sorry for the double post. I was browsing through the master thread and I found this from Aman: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/54921-mr15-the-dula-revolution/?do=findComment&comment=460357 (This idea was then supported by Maill http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/54921-mr15-the-dula-revolution/?do=findComment&comment=460360. This could mean many things; just some food for thought...) To add to the confusion, Maill did a complete about-face a few pages later: http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/54921-mr15-the-dula-revolution/?do=findComment&comment=460714 - @Kipper has been lurking again.
  2. Senate Document https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fdCOQLGqPIrCEC5nbBxGz34hdYPfDs1Gj4TRrg4uwGM/edit?usp=sharing @Straw, who did you add to your doc?
  3. Seonid, of course. For the scan, I'd recommend Elenion, see previous thread. Roleplaying to come.
  4. This is how I feel right now. Don't ask me how to interpret it, I haven't quite figured it out myself, but this is how I feel right now.
  5. This will be my last post, then, if rollover is this soon. Amanuensis, I guess. As much as I hate to do this, let's wait until Elenion is scanned. But in Alv's immortal words: "Trusting Aman is like trusting Petyr Baelish. Honeyed are his words, sharp is his tongue, chaos is his hallmark." @OrlokTsubodai PLEASE HURRY!
  6. I meant evidence, not suspicion, although I can see where your suspicious are coming from. I don't agree with them, but I can see where they're coming from.
  7. If Orlok removes his vote, I'll remove mine. Also @Alvron, I thought rollover wasn't until 0300 GMT (which is 9:00 mountain daylight).
  8. So Aman, correct me if I'm wrong, this is your evidence that Elenion is evil: - I know my role and Bard's role, and we aren't bad - Probability says that there has to be a Jeskeri on the Senate
  9. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear before. I'm not defending Elenion because he's unsuspicious, but because you (in my mind) are suspicious. I'm suspicious of you because you used flawed (in my mind) logic to immediately assume the numbers of eliminators starting in the Senate and expected everyone to follow you based on the reasoning that "I'm not an eliminator and the person I scanned is not an eliminator, so....." It's your innocence versus Elenion's innocence, and the aggressive way you tried to shift the attention away from yourself leads me to believe that you're the one whose innocence should be questioned. So please don't refer to me as "the accused's brother", as that makes me think that I have out-of-game reason to defend him. We don't have a truce or anything, and I don't have any qualms about lynching him if he's the most suspicious one in the game. Just refer to me as "the one who thinks the plaintiff is rather more suspicious.". But enough of that for now. Let's lynch Elbereth (who's probably Jeskeri, not Derethi, at least by my interpretation of N2) and then review your case. Scan Elenion tomorrow! - So yeah, that's my reasoning. I have done some serious consideration about what has been said and done so far this game. I'm not letting the fact that we're brothers cloud my judgment. This is why I am still more suspicious of you. - Edit: read parts of the Senate doc. Think less of "I came to Elenion's rescue" and more of "I called you out for suspicious behavior" (in my mind)
  10. Of course I'm Elenion's teammate! We're both village! My "going to bat" for him was simply my opinion that your statement "I know myself and the other guy I got the scan results for are innocent, therefor Elenion is guilty" is in no way a good reason for booting someone off the Senate. You're so convinced that there's one Jeskeri on the Senate. I would be willing to compromise (maybe) that you're village and Elbereth is the Jeskeri. This theory makes pretty good sense to me: N2, Seonid was supposed to submit the Derethi kill but didn't actually. The Jeskeri did a WGG on El. (Although, at the same time, I'm also unsure whether there was actually a WGG. It is a 2-faction game, so anyone attacked isn't necessarily cleared.) Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought Young Bard requested a scan to avoid lynch. It's better to have a 40% chance of survival from a scan than a 0% chance of survival from a lynch. I also think that repeatedly hiding behind probability is not a legitimate reason to prove you as innocent. Then if it turns out Elenion dies and he really is village, you can just say "oh, the probability must have been off, oh well. (sorry, spacing issues) You're saying that it's "probable" you're not an eliminator. If I ever go to court, I want a storming better defense than "it's probable that I didn't commit this crime". You seriously took this one out of context. My vote had been on Conquestor before, but I switched it to Cloudjumper because I was more suspicious of him, then switched it right back to Conquestor when I saw the senators had decided to scan cloudjumper. Also, I don't know how relevant this is, but I didn't post that 3 minutes before the end of the cycle, I posted it 15 minutes before the end of the cycle, then updated it later. Notice that the post says: "Edited by Ecthelion III...countdown update." You said in the thread of the new game to not trust anyone until they give you a reason to trust them, and you definitely have not given me a reason to trust you.
  11. Uhhh... I thought you had just gotten done trying to tell us that Elbereth is confirmed Derethi! So your Jeskeri plan is to kill Elbereth tonight and lynch Seonid tomorrow, huh?
  12. @Amanuensis Why would Elbereth (who you're so sure is a Derethi), after learning that cloudjumper is a Jeskeri, lie and say that he is village? I would think that the Derethi would want the Jeskeri dead, in which case Elbereth would have truthfully said that cloudjumper is Jeskeri. I think you truly believe that Elbereth is Derethi, and after we lynch Seonid and Elbereth, you and Bard will win the game for the Jeskeri. You just want to divert attention from yourself by getting after Elenion when the only thing you have against him is "Given that I know Jaime, Bard and myself are all villagers, that means the only possible Jeskeri of the original Senators is Elenion..." That's not grounds for anyone to follow you in removing Elenion. Amanuensis
  13. Welcome! Have a cookie!
  14. Heal Kaladin, hurt Jasnah 2. Kaladin 43 HP 5. Shallan 27 HP 20. Marsh 19 HP 25. Jasnah 36 HP
  15. Heal Kaladin, hurt Jasnah 2. Kaladin 47 HP 5. Shallan 26 HP 20. Marsh 8 HP 25. Jasnah 44 HP
  16. I got my brother @Elenion to read The Way of Kings!
  17. Same as 2 posts ago 1. Kelsier 6 HP 2. Kaladin 37 HP 5. Shallan 24 HP 20. Marsh 24 HP 25. Jasnah 34 HP
  18. Heal Kal, hurt Kell 1. Kelsier 9 HP 2. Kaladin 35 HP 5. Shallan 24 HP 20. Marsh 24 HP 25. Jasnah 33 HP
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