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  1. Straw
    I cannot change my mind because the elims can make me lose if I do not side with them.
  2. Straw
    I wasn't hoping to influence the vote. I just wanted to prove that I did have a Dione vote manip. The elim win condition is to reach a point where they can no longer be stopped. Assuming I loyally support the elims (which I will, since they can kill me), I am functionally on their side. Therefore, I count just as much towards their win condition. Hmm, I'm not sure how well that holds up. Let's say there are five villagers and two village vote manipulators. If they kill me: 40%: +2 60%: +0 If they kill a villager: 40%: +2 60%: +1 The issue with accounting for village vote manipulators is that it also increases the value of just killing a villager.
  3. Straw
    @elims bad move tbh. Instead of removing the village Dione, you essentially decided to shoot your own Dione. Don’t try it again. I removed the Striker vote btw.
  4. Straw
    Dannex (4): Quinn0928, StrikerEZ, Somebody from Sel, Liranil Somebody from Sel (1): TJ Shade Liranil (1): Dannex
  5. Straw
    I can offer up the fact that Liranil is a Dione as proof.
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    I don't believe it would require a pass, since it is a Sanderson work. Are you requesting a spot on the QF list? I can't tell from this. Hmm, I'd say this is a bit too strongly in favor of the village. The elected kill is going to be solidly village controlled, since it's voted on by all players and elected player still has to make a reasonable kill (an elected elim can't just kill a top village player without drawing suspicion). The fact that it provides protection as well makes it even better. This means that the village has a bit too much KP. I'm not sure what you should do to fix it, but it's definitely village-sided. EDIT: Wait, is the election every cycle? I read it as that but I'm not sure. EDIT2: Okay, if I'm understanding correctly now, it's one election and one kill. In that case I'd say it's fine.
  7. Straw
    I'm assuming three elims because the village has pretty much lost if there are four, so there's little point discussing that. Also, it's not like this is a new thing. Literally my first post on cycle one was commenting that I think there's three elims:
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    If the village votes me out, they lose. If it's 3 v 5 v 1 today, and the village votes me out: -1 Spy from vote -1 village from elim kill -1 village from convert +1 elim from convert Which makes 4 v 3, so the elims have a majority and win.
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    Hi, I’m the Detritus Spy! Now, you may be wondering why I’m claiming, and that’s a pretty good question. Well, I’ve realized that us humans really are a threat, and that the Department of Protective Services is right. That’s why I’ve decided to join them! You might be thinking that the DPS will just kill me and grab a conversion, but that wouldn’t really help them. I have a Dione vote manip, so I can essentially create a +2 vote difference. If the DPS killed me, they’d grab a villager, gaining a +2 vote difference. Therefore, the DPS wouldn’t gain anything from my death. They would also be missing out on the chance to kill a villager, so it’d be a net loss for them. The DPS can also ensure my loyalty very easily. If I turn against them, then they can just kill me and I’d lose. I also don’t have any reason to betray them, since I don’t win with the village or anything. @DPS let me know if/when we have enough combined votes/vote manip to win. I look forward to winning together.
  10. Straw
    The things that I've seen at least: Breaker has not really given reads Breaker's vote switching last cycle was confusing and seems like it might have been to cause a tie Breaker has had a generally odd tone (begging for elims to kill him, not really offering any defense today, etc) Breaker wouldn't give reasoning for his suspicion on Liranil On that note, I don't think I actually remembered to vote for Breaker. Might as well do so, even if it won't make a difference.
  11. Straw
    Okay I'm pretty uncertain with Breaker since my gut says he's village but he really hasn't been doing anything that villagery. I haven't seen him post any reads and all the vote hopping last cycle was very odd. I would be okay with an exe on him. I'm going to have to read through the end of last cycle a lot since there was quite a bit happening. Bussing is voting on another elim.
  12. Straw
    That is actually not the game you're currently running. See this post from you in the GM PM on Nov 30: As to requesting a certain timeslot, you can't exactly request one, you just have to get to the top of the list and then wait until your desired timeslot comes around. So it's very unlikely that you could run another LG in 1-2 months, but it's decently likely that you can run something in 6-7 months.
  13. Straw
    Okay, I'm back. First of all, why is there so much kill discussion? I don't find that very helpful. I think that offering reads based on posts in the thread is much more helpful, since it makes people give specific thoughts on certain players rather than just making groupings. New thoughts: Striker - gut good, disagree on ties Matrim - gut good Snipexe - seems a bit too much Xino - broke tie in favor of Ventyl. Either village or another elim in Mat/Archer/Snip. BrightEyes2 - sudden vote on Ventyl, watch her Breaker - odd focus on being killed Quinn - bandwagons Archer, I don't like this Breaker - overly aggressive, weird Matrim - weird narrowing down Archer - weird reads, too much village IMO BrightEyes2 - not much connection between explained reads and list Read list: Breaker - mild village (getting weird feelings here though, would like more reads from him) Striker - very mild village Archer - neutral (leaning gut good though) BrightEyes2 - neutral (would like more thoughts on why people are where they are in your list) Matrim - neutral Ghander - very mild elim Quinn - very mild elim Snipexe - mild elim I'm a bit unsure about Snip, so I think I'll go with a Quinn vote. I won't be around for a bit, but I should be able to make rollover.
  14. Straw
    Hi, I'm here. Sorry for not being around all that much. I'll try to update my reads at some point. What is this supposed to mean?
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    ??? I was confused because Archer's first game was as an elim so I'm not sure how to interpret what he's saying. Since on one hand it didn't seem like he thought you were an elim but on the other hand if you were playing like he did his first game, and he was an elim, then I'd read his post as an elim read on you. It wasn't an attack, and I'm not sure how you'd really read it as an attack on Archer. Archer also kind of answered my question before I posted my post, but I'd written it around the same time as Xino's second to last post and forgotten to send it until later (hence why I also didn't have reads on the newest posts and why I missed BrightEyes2 posting).
  16. Straw
    I've been getting pinged by Ghander as well, but not in a "this post is suspicious way" so much as the fact that they've made five posts so far but none of them really say anything. "I expect Breaker to play this game like I played my first one, which will also make them a wild card." So wait, you're reading Breaker as an elim? You were an elim in your first game. I don't have much more stuff, but here's an update on my reads (this is adding more to my previous reads, not my full read, see my past reads post): Quinn - very mild elim - doesn't want to vote, open to voting anyone, will bandwagon at end Archer - very mild elim - will not reveal suspicion Quinn - mild village - prompts Archer, asks Snipexe reasoning Ventyl - very mild elim - weird switch to Matrim Ghander - very mild elim - hasn't really said anything despite having a fair number of posts Archer - mild village - kind of feel like Archer would have just revealed if he was an elim Matrim - very mild village - gut feeling This updates my readlist to: Breaker - mild village Archer - very mild village Quinn - very mild village Matrim - neutral Araris - very mild elim Ghander - very mild elim Ventyl - very mild elim Snipexe - mild elim I'd like to hear more from @Araris Valerian and @Ghanderflaffle. Also, @BrightEyes2, not sure if you're around, but any thoughts on the game so far? EDIT: Brighteyes, disregard the last bit, didn't see your post.
  17. Straw
    Thirding Danex and Matrim on this. Right now I really think that you should share your suspicion. C1 is always a bit harder than other cycles, so we need all the discussion and thoughts that we can get. Especially considering that a lot of the current votes are just pokes, another legitimate vote would be a great help IMO. Archer did give their reasoning. It was a "shot in the dark" and they have a neutral read on Snipexe. Should be seven posts above yours if I count correctly. As for my reasoning, here's an expanded version below. The first suspicious post from Snipexe is this one: It's hard to describe what's exactly suspicious about this post, and I do think it's only mildly suspicious. IMO it's kind of odd that Snipexe mentions future posts and poke votes to come. It feels like a way to have an excuse not to do anything for a while. The second red flag from Snipexe, and the much more major one, is this post: In this post, Snipexe repeatedly says that the C1 vote is "random chance" and emphasizes the low odds of hitting an elim. He also casts doubt on the quality of the information from C1. IMO this seems suspicious since it's preemptively casting doubt on any information gained from this turn, which benefits the elims no matter what happens. Another odd thing is how Snipexe doesn't acknowledge posts and votes as a source of information. The things that he lists as possible sources of information: actions, death flips, PMs, vote manip. I'm not sure if this bit is exactly suspicious, but I certainly think it's worth noting.
  18. Straw
    I'm confused about what you want me to do, since I'm not going to fabricate reads out of NAI posts just so I can avoid repeating stuff. Also, looking at my post, I don't think that I was particularly repetitive of other people, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
  19. Straw
    Noting that that was LG68, not LG67, and the main problem with that was that there was an insane amount of action scans (over half of the playerlist iirc), so two of us were outed by them. That was also a LG, which are significantly more village-sided, and there was no chance of getting a convert from the Spy. Okay, hmm, I admittedly haven't been that involved. Here are some thoughts. I would echo the anti-tie side. It essentially allows vote manipulation to control the vote, and I think the elims will likely have vote manipulation. Some initial reads on people: Quinn - very mild village - prompted for detailed explanations Snipexe - very mild elim - promises content late, could just be trying to dodge poke-votes Breaker - mild village - good opening post, feels like a new elim would be more hesitant Matrim - very mild elim - "brainstorming elim strats isn't the greatest look" feels off to me Araris - very mild elim - ignored vote manipulation messing with ties Snipexe - mild elim - says no chance of finding elim C1, continues to emphasize lack of knowledge now So roughly: Breaker - mild village Quinn - very mild village Araris - very mild elim Matrim - very mild elim Snipexe - mild elim I think I'll throw a vote on Snipexe.
  20. Straw
    lmao that was quite a shock. Wasn't expecting a reset. I still stand with what I said about there probably being three elims. I think that four would be too many with the possibility of a conversion.
  21. Straw
    You typically PM the full committee + mods.
  22. Straw
    What's up people let's go I suppose. With this many players I'd estimate that there are at most three eliminators, which would put the alignment distribution at 3 elim vs 1 spy vs 13 village. The elims can of course get a conversion if they kill the spy, hence why I think they only have three. Anyone else have thoughts on this?
  23. Straw
    Same as always, PM the committee with the public rules and ask for volunteers to look at the secret rules.
  24. Straw
    While I'm not for the term "hanged" either (too specific IMO), I think that "lynched" is typically used in a much more racially charged manner than "hanged," so there is a difference even if they refer to the same method of execution.
  25. Straw
    Hi STINK.
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