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I'm kind of confused by this. Why would you say someone is village unless proven otherwise? I'd say it's the opposite.

Yeah, I know Mafia Universe has a policy against sharing editable things, but IDK about SE

Wait, Kas has a new disease? I completely missed that. Interesting.

I feel like this is making a few too many logical leaps. You assume that diseases both spread and have stages.

Yeah, the Night bit is just referring to the other metals. I'll fix it to make it more clear.

It's technically role madness, in that everyone has a metal. However, someone could possibly start with 0 vials.

I think this is right: Illwei (3): TJ Shade, Frozen Mint, Straw Ashbringer (2): Araris Valerian, Matrim’s Dice Mist (2): Sart, Illwei Kasimir (2): Vapor, Kasimir Devotary of Spontaneity (1): Lahilt Lord_Silberfarben (1): Ashbringer StrikerEZ (1): The Young Pyromancer

So, what's the case on Ash? I haven't really seen anything suspicious from him.

Wait, is that what Illwei's been doing? If that's the case, he can just mark the edit with EDIT in front of it in the post.

Basics: Factions: Metals: Order of Actions: Welcome to MR44! I am the GM for this game. @Devotary of Spontaneity is the IM. This ruleset was originally created by @Gamma Fiend. This ruleset was run as MR9. RP Background: You're a group of new members of the Steel Ministry. This game is set around a hundred years before the Mistborn books. Signups will end on August 12th at 1:00 PM EST. This will probably be the normal rollover time. The first day will go up 24 hours after signups end. Player List: Spectator List: Quick Links:

Looking back at Illwei's posts, I can't really see anything that swings them either way for me. The one thing that I do find suspicious is their list of reads, which feels inflated. As in, they say a lot more than they need to. For example, they said this for Lahilt: "I have no reasoning to think they're elim..." and this for me: "straw scares me". I don't really see why they'd include either of those comments, since they weren't aiming to say their read on every player. There's also a lot of hedging in there, which seems odd.

I don't know about the others, but I'm voting on him due to his edits being confusing. I'll go reread his posts right now, and see if I want to keep my vote or retract it.

Sorry for not being in the thread as much as usual. I am keeping up with it though, and will try to offer more comments in the future. Quick question for @Illwei: What's up with all the edits and stuff with your posts? I'm not sure how much you're changing, but I'm positive that you had a post alleging an elim connection between me and TJ. However, I can't find it it at the moment. Could you clarify what's going on? I really don't see how editing all this stuff and leaving edit messages is helpful. Illwei seems like a good place for my vote for now.

Do they know about the 17th Shard Discord? Anyone have ideas on what kind of mechanics this game might have? I found out that I have a background, which I'll apparently learn more about in the future.

Could you clarify what this said before you edited it? I think that that strategy probably isn't the best idea. It lets the elims narrow down any alignment scanners very quickly. Another negative factor is that we actually have to keep up the act, which messes with our play a bit too much for my comfort. If we say we scanned someone as village, we have to also act like they're confirmed village, and hide any suspicions on that person that we might develop. I'm also kind of confused by the assumptions you're making here?

You sign up by pinging one of the four mods: little wilson, Fifth Scholar, Elbereth, or Devotary of Spontaneity. Elbereth is probably going to be on sometime in the next day due to the QF. So, @Elbereth, see Ash’s post above. As for co-GMing, basically just ask anyone who’s about to GM a game. Done.

Some thoughts on the full rules in the spoiler below: Probably missed some stuff. I'll probably check over the rules again later.

Correct!!! TBH, I think Pyro's thing is entirely null for now!! I could totally see him doing it just for fun!!! I very much disagree!!! Their chances of hitting a Cultist are much higher if they direct the lynch within themselves!!! They'd want to wait longer to figure out who the KC is!!!

I'm kind of confused as to why you chose to vote for Ashbringer after having them as NAI? Why not vote for one of your actual Jeskeri reads? This feels bandwagony to me!!! My issue with it was primarily that it's an odd thing to start with! You saying that it doesn't mean you want to vote Cultists doesn't particularly matter for that, since my main point is your initial focus on Cultists at all!! If you really are Korathi, why does that make you want to vote for them? That sounds like much more of a Cultist thing for Ash to do rather than a Practitioner thing!!! Unless you're admitting to being Jeskeri?

I don't think that's why I suspected you? I lean Practitioner on you due to your first post saying that it's fine to vote out Cultists, which I think is an odd thing to start with!!! Or am I reading your point incorrectly?

I did read the rules, but I did want to double check!! I just think that it's not terribly unbelievable for someone to slip up and mess up with that!! I would discourage voting out Pyro today!! Tomorrow is a different story, but I feel like gambits like Pyro did are fairly NAI, and it's better to wait and see what long term thoughts and reads he has!!!

I got a PM asking if I was a Cultist, replied with no, and got a short PM in response!!! However, the PM response was super short and didn't really say anything!!!! I didn't get a claim or anything though!!

Yes, I wouldn't read very much into it though, given that he's done stuff like it in the past!! I do dislike PM conversation in general, as I feel like there isn't much advantage for villagers to talk in PMs rather than making their thoughts public!!! Now, time for some reads!! Ashbringer: Points out Korathi Cultist, seems to be thinking a lot about the JP win condition!!! While I don't like doing this, this post does give me JP vibes!! Slight JP read!!! Devotary: Assumes 13/5/2/1 distribution!!! Look at this if Devotary does not flip Korathi!! Elkanah: Effort feels like not!JC? Leaning K!!! Mint: Weird question? Null read but still a weird question!!! Kasimir: Votes on Sart initially, due to disagreement! If Sart flips J, take a closer look at Kas!!! Lotus: I feel like they would have asked this question in a doc if they had one!!! Slight K read! Matrim: Voted on Mint for acting like an elim!! The problem with this is, we don't want to vote for elims!! JP read for this!! Sart: Proposes strategy that would probably help JC!! Later claims to be lying, but I don't really buy it!!! Also votes on me for very bad reason? Weird play, but I'm leaning towards a JC read!! TJ: Odd emphasis on voting out cultists being fine! Says Korathi would know their loss condition! I'm Korathi and I had to go check right now, so I don't find that unbelievable!! I certainly wasn't told in my PM!!! Slight JP read!! Pyro: Lots of PMs!! Null read! Bard: Faction difficulty stuff is a bit weird? I don't think it matters much now that we're in the game!!!

Okay, popping in before bed!! I’m honestly incredibly confused by Sart! I really don’t buy the baiting narrative from him!!! While this is kind of OMGUS from me, I really don’t like this reasoning!! Sart says I’m wrong, but refuses to say why!!! He then follows up with a vote on me with a justification that I find fairly absurd!!! It feels like it was just thrown in to give a reason other than disagreement! Notably, he really doesn’t state any solid reasoning or give me anything to really discuss with him! All in all, this vote just seems super off, and I’m not quite sure what to make of it!!!!!

Kind of, but not quite!!!! Somewhat same on Sart!! However, I do think his thing is more NAI than you're implying!!!! TBH, I feel like the entire Sart discussion is ripe for a bad vote!! Speaking of bad votes, I'm going to place a (hopefully not bad) vote on TJ Shade!!! This is pretty much purely gut, but there's not much point in not voting!!!