Kelsier's Boxing Glove

Belated notice: During ch9 party, Wayne spots some chocolate pastries. However next book brings up chocolate as a brand new cool thing heretofore unseen. This is probably just a tiny oversight, maybe wasn't even a thing at time of writing/checking. But now it's a small error and they might wanna fix it at some point.

This is an incredibly awesome translation and I'm bumping this thread for it. She even described herself as "the surgeon" when asked. I applaud whoever did it, doubly so if it's a single word in Polish.

Still haven't seen any objection in this thread whose answer isn't comicbooks. This isn't fantasy. Being written by an epic fantasy author doesn't change the fundamentals of the genre. Those things mentioned as lacking aren't and won't ever be important. Sanderson already did his trademark huge last book plot twist right here (and in a more cunning than his usual way too) adding his personal touch to the genre. It was super effective. Further twisting would've made a not comicbook. Criticising a cape comicbook for being a cape comicbook is futile.

What I'm seeing here is a lot of not comicbook fans. Incomprehensible omnipotent aliens just happen, it's no more strange than not getting cancer from radiation. The continuation from this ending is obvious: The Stupendous Steelheart, The Fascinating Firefight, The Marvelous Mizzy and The Prestigious Prof-Guys serials where they build up and then fight their own rogues galleries with the rare overlap, plus the odd crisis crossover with alternate universe guest stars here and there. The alternate universe itself isn't even worth speculating on: it's just a regular cape universe, dime a dozen. Reckoners books are amazingly great and carries a no less shocking twist than any other BS book you care to name: We were in the mirror universe where all those goateed evil twins come from and the proper cape universe was the next one over. And it also got fixed with power of love and now will become a proper hero vs villain universe like any other. It's far more meta and self aware than anything Sanderson's done before. It's also not worth spending any more effort on. These universes are done, BS has restored the faulty comicbook universe to its natural order and successfully completed this story. Anything further is just regular ol' cape comics, doubt they'd look very satisfying from an author perspective. ... I have built this hill and will have my last stand on it.

It's a comic book. And a cape one. Of COURSE the omnipotent superbeing will be "defeated" by the power of love and friendship and blargh. Of COURSE there are parallel universes where the dead are still alive and baddies are good. Of COURSE there's always one dude who's a homicidal psychopath in every reality. Of COURSE the longwinded crisis crossover saga will have a discordant bizarre ending. Of COURSE it'll serve as setup for further adventures of Reckonengers League. Everything is of COURSE. This was %100 authentic comicbook experience. It's pitch perfect. P.S. Sanderson should write a lot more stuff outside epic fantasy genre. He's got a lot of talent and does mix bits of other genres into his epic fantasies (heist in Mistborn, western in Alloy, horror in WoK and Shadows, spy thriller in WoR) but I'd like to see him do a full one.

I approve of this. The significance of Kelsier punching Shardvessels is clear. It doesn't get more significant than that.

Actually, we've never seen leeching work onpage before. The only time we saw anything close was Inquisitors feeding aluminum to Vin, who felt her reserves disappear. It was a big shock to her and even if it wasn't, I doubt she can actually tell if the metals inside her stomach actually disappeared or just became powerless. In this book, we see Wax's reserves drained by the cube and he doesn't comment about the actual metal bits inside his stomach either, just that there's nothing inside to burn. None of these require the metals to actually burn away like with duralumin. If the account in broadsheet story is true (probably, but it's still a pulpy newspaper story), then it points to leeched metals becoming uninvestitured instead of burned away. So there's the difference between aluminum and duralumin. Also a new question: do leeched metals become permanently depowered? Would the same bits of metal continue to be unusable for another Allomancer if they were taken out of the leeched one? Probably nobody thought to test that, as it'd be disgusting from either end, and there's no metal cycle in Scadrial since those metals would've been gone anyway when burned, but it's an interesting question about the nature of Allomantic Investiture.

The real question is how/why do people gain the ability to use unlocked "double metalminds" only when they realize it might be a metalmind? As soon as Marasi was told the medallion will make her lighter, she became able to fill it. Same with the coin at the ending, it only started working when Wax thought it might. Actually, can those iron medallions not be tapped? We never see anyone increase their weight with them, do we? Maybe these southern doubleminds are one way? But then, where does the stored power go to (or come from in case of tapped doubleminds)? Also if heat medallions can't be recharged, then that's another question: why are iron doubleminds fillable by anyone while brass doubleminds aren't?

What's up with their soldiers protecting Threnody "border" (which is apparently very far away) to prevent them from entering "main stage"? Are Elantrians blockading Threnodians, is there an interplanetary conflict? Who else is on this main stage aside from Elantrians?

So shades taken off Threnody would regain their minds?

In unrelated news, "Kelsier saw it change, sending forward spines like the spindly legs of a spider. On their end, dangling like a puppet, was a humanoid figure." "And that boiling mass of writhing serpents in the sky . . . that had been the result." "Kelsier looked at that hand, which undulated with the pinprick pressing of the spiders inside." ...I didn't expect the ATI FHTAGN. ATI FHTAGN wasn't something I expected to see when starting on this book. Never thought BS would ATI FTAGN us in cosmere, no matter how slightly.

"The pack he carried was different; he’d taken that from an abandoned store. No master had ever carried it. It considered its purpose to sit on a shelf and be admired. So far it had still made for a suitable companion." I might be wrong about this, but: *** That aside, I see some strange parallels with Kelsier's ghost equipment and Soulcasting and some other random things. Almost like a few tangled theory but too vague and tangled. I'll list stuff I see: -Items have souls and memories and desires and can be persuaded to do things in Cognitive Realm. -Individual items manifest in Cognitive as balls. Glass in Roshar, mist in Scadrial. -If a soulcaster gives them Investiture over there, this can affect Physical Realm. -Kelsier's shadow can't affect Physical but can still persuade items to do things in Cognitive. Presumably if he had Investiture to use, he could maybe do something on Physical too but no guarantees. -Kelsier thinks distance from the item's body is a limiting factor but he might be wrong. -Items persuaded to hang out with Kelsier stick around until something happens to their physical selves, which "changes their Identity" and item's soul goes back to its "body". Body over mind. -Returneds' and kandras' (and even Royal Locks) control over their Physical bodies look like the complete opposite of item souls' behavior. Mind over body. -Seems like either human(ish) minds or Investiture or both is needed to overcome the body over mind, which appears to be normal state of things. -This last one looks kind of like a hypothesis but needs fancier wording. -Elantrians used souls of rocks to build a structure, so item souls are extremely manipulatable. They also brought souls of their own rocks from Sel all the way to Scadrial. -But their building glows like Elantris, so they're Investituring around. Don't know if Investiture was mandatory for that scale or just makes it easier. To borrow a page from someone's book, there's a secret in here somewhere. Probably multiple secrets.

I'm looking forward to Kelsier punching every other Shard in the face too. Gotta punchemall.