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  1. You make an interesting theory. And we'll know for sure once I scan Elenion. But there is a slight flaw in this point. Your own plan to lynch me implicitly assumed that the lynch would happen before form changing. Because otherwise it would just kill me, seeing as I had put in an order to change to scholarform. Kyner and the other Parshendi reached the edge of the chasm. One by one, they leapt. He wasn't accustomed to warform, but he had plenty of practice jumping chasms in the last day of travel. He soared over the shadowed depths of a chasm for a few instants, then landed hard on the other side, his carapace mostly absorbing the shock. It looked like the Alethi were already camped on the chasm. The rhythms (a fascinating aspect of this race) told him that the next highstorm was only a day away. He wondered what the Alethi would do when it struck. Perhaps they would retire to the warcamps for the day? No matter. For the sake of his new people, and for the sake of this strange and wonderful world he had found, it was time to negotiate. The Parshendi and the Alethi faced each other. Kyner noted with some trepidation that they outnumbered the Parshendi two-to-one. But that wouldn't matter, would it? He told himself. Dalinar was an honorable man. He would not call a meeting of peace unless he truly wanted peace. And peace he would have. Under certain conditions. "Greetings," Kyner said, nodding his head in deference. "Shall we convene a meeting? There is much to be discussed."
  2. Only way I've ever figured out to get red text on my phone is copy+past someone else's vote, then change the name if that is necessary.
  3. You'll know when I go into scholarform because I'll be revealing my search results to everyone, and if I ever lie about something you can and probably should kill me. I am serious about an unaligned Alethi-Parshendi win together. I think a secret faction victory sounds kind of lame, especially now that I know I can't win alongside the Ghostbloods Why, you ask, am I voting for an Alethi if I really just want to kill off all the secret factions? Well, frankly, I think the Sons of Honor feel a lot safer than the Voidbringers, and so it's a lot easier to spot them (if I'm wrong about Yitzi I'll have cause to reconsider that statement). I don't have any good guesses for who a Voidbringer is yet. But that will change. I think I'll scan a Parshendi next cycle. The general consensus seems to be that Elenion is the most likely to be a Voidbringer, right? Worst case scenario, it'll clear him, and that still shrinks the pool of possible suspects. Best case scenario, we catch a Voidbringer (or maybe even a Ghostblood) and down another secret faction. If I catch a Voidbringer for you, I hope that would improve Parshendi-Alethi relations.
  4. Well this changes everything. New plan. We should probably kill off all the secret factions. My my... What an interesting post. You want me to enter scholarform. Well and good. In fact, I'll tell you with zero strings attached that I had already put in an order to enter into scholarform yesterday, and discussed this with the other parshendi. And you want accountability? Fine. I've just told you, I'm already going to be a scholarform. That can be public knowledge now. But what in the name of Ruin makes you think that lynching me is a good plan for leverage? I'd much rather still have the opportunity to protect myself later, thank you very much. I also don't really like a strategy that stresses lynching actives above all else. So, tell you what. New plan. I'll still be a scholarform and all that. And I will report information to everyone. But we are going to lynch people who are actually part of secret factions. I am fully willing to help lynch Voidbringers if the Alethi are willing to help lynch Sons of Honor. And with that, I think Yitzi could very likely be a Son of Honor. EDIT: And if you don't believe that I planned to enter scholarform all along... Well I suppose you could ask the other Parshendi, because one of them already agreed to protect me while I was in scholarform yesterday. Or you could wait until I reveal a secret role I suppose. That should be proof, no?
  5. I can't rightly say I know if there's only one or not. But I'm guessing what happens is... Their win condition becomes much more difficult. They'd have to win by first killing off all the non-ghostblood Alethi, and then by killing of all remaining parshendi (but keeping them alive until all the Alethi are dead, which would be a challenge because chances are the Sons of Honor are still alive). If they somehow pulled this off, they'd win alongside the unaligned Alethi, and everyone else would lose.
  6. Being part of a secret faction doesn't make you no longer an Alethi or a Parshendi, which is what you appear to be assuming. The Parshendi not in any secret faction have only one objective: the game has to end with one of us alive. Same thing goes for Alethi not in a secret faction. One Alethi has to be alive at the game for this group to win. Now, if all the Alethi are wiped out, the game ends, with a Voidbringer victory. Similarly, if all the Parshendi are wiped out, the game ends, with a Sons of Honor victory. That's very bad news for a Ghostblood. It means they lose. So it is 100% in their interest to preserver at least one Parshendi and at least one Alethi. Specifically, the Parshendi and Alethi that are themselves Ghostbloods. So it is actually impossible for the Ghostbloods to win without me also winning. It is also impossible for the Voidbringers to win without me also winning. Similarly, it is also impossible for the Ghostbloods to win without unaligned Alethi winning. It is also impossible for the Sons of Honor to win without the unlaligned Alethi also winning.
  7. The posted vote tally also seems to have Striker voting on himself... So I don't think this was the work of rioters.
  8. My thoughts on our number distribution: First, I have to say, I am quite pleased with the selection of parshendi players, even if we are fewer in numbers. Second... Even though we have less people, I'm pretty sure Seonid wouldn't have made a game that was badly unbalanced or easy to break. Which means that "lynch all parshendi" is very unlikely to be a tactically sound approach to this game. So I recommend instead that, at this point, you only really lynch a parshendi if you believe the parshendi in question to be a voidbringer. Third and finally... Anybody want to RP some early negotiations over the peace treaty? A good half of why I signed up for this game is because Stormlight Archive is the best setting ever, and I can't hardly RP a peace treaty on my own, can I
  9. It was the ninth year since Kyner had entered the creation waters and returned from the shade-world. The hell-spirit seemed to be growing anxious. He wasn't sure what that meant. In general, it had felt much more contented since he entered the Unkalaki peaks. But no matter. Kyner followed behind the other parshendi, travelling to a council of peace. He had earned the trust of his people the past years, in the war of reckoning. He was no warrior, but he had played an important role in the research of new forms like scholarform (for this aspect of the parshendi fascinated him). And he was also the parshendi's best cook. For a generally warlike people, these were excellent qualifications for a peace council. To traverse the chasms effectively, he had been forced to take on warform. He wasn't enjoying it. It was irritatingly confrontational. And it didn't have the same clarity, the same intellect, the same ambition. Once he reached the meeting place, he would be returning to scholarform on the very first highstorm that hit. And then he would negotiate a treaty with the Alethi. Kyner still wasn't sure what twist of fate ended up having him play a role in a turning point of parshendi history. But if he was going to be remembered, he would be remembered for saving the parshendi, for bringing in a new era of peace and prosperity. After all, technically, they were his people.
  10. I'm back! So: First of all, this is clearly racist Second of all, Alethi characters also come in three categories, some of which the Parshendi have cause to disapprove of. And if you make it an Alethi-versus-Parshendi thing, I think its safe to say that all of us parshendi will basically throw our lot in with the Ghostbloods, and then you will be the minority anyway what's so wrong with a peaceful resolution to the war of reckoning? Third of all, you look an awful lot like a Son of Honor. Anyways! Like I said, I had RP typed up in advance starting up a new character and this should be interesting. I'll release the first chapter of it. During the 1164th year of the Rosharian local calendar, on the fifth day of the month of Chach, as the first moon Salas just began its rise across the twilight sky, on the shore of the Emerald Ocean upon the Horneater peaks, something remarkable happened. A parshman emerged on the banks of the waters, coughing and struggling to its feet. Or, perhaps more accurately, a parshendi, for it bore the distinctive carapace of warform. This was remarkable, because nobody could imagine how it got there. It didn't come from outside; the Unkalaki would have seen it. Nor did it very much seem to be a god (after all, it didn't even speak the Unkalaki tongue, or any intelligable tongue for that matter). And yet the fact remained, that one of the parshendi had waded out of the Emerald Ocean and into the midst of Unkalaki, speaking an incomprehensible language and displaying apparent confusion at the most commonplace of things. Even such simple acts as sheltering for a highstorm or lighting the hearth seemed to trouble him. Tha Unkalaki were unsure how to respond to this enigma. After much deliberation, they ultimately decided to do nothing about it. And so the parshendi lived among them for several years, slowly learning their ways and their language. They called him Kyn'tamu'kumumari, which roughly translates to "of the water." When the Unkalaki discovered that he was a second son, he was taught their ways of gathering and cooking. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Kyn'tamu'kumeomari put fewer shells in his cuisine than most Unkalaki chefs. And, at the close of the fifth year of Kyn'tamu'kumeomari's stay in the Horneater peaks, he departed in search of his people, the parshendi. In other tongues, he was known as Kyner, a simplification of the original Unkalaki word. And finally, some general faction analysis. So there are six groups (assuming no added factions, which is uncertain). 1. Alethi - Son of Honor 2. Alethi - Ghostblood 3. Alethi - Unaligned 4. Parshendi - Voidbringer 5. Parshendi - Ghostblood 6. Parshendi - Unaligned The way I see it, there are three basic outcomes, with some overlapping victories. Ending A: 1 and 3 win together. Ending B: 4 and 6 win together. Ending C: 2, 3, 5, and 6 win together. Unaligned players win out in 2 of those 3 cases. Players part of a secret faction win in 1 of the 3 cases. Unaligned Alethi should be solely concerned with getting rid of voidbringers. Unaligned Parshendi should be solely concerned with getting rid of sons of honor. Sons of Honor / Voidbringers should be solely concerned with getting rid of all Parshendi / Alethi respectively. Ghostbloods should be solely concerned with getting rid of both voidbringers and sons of honor. If the Ghostbloods+Unaligned outnumber the voidbringers+sons of honor... Then at the beginning of the game they very nearly form a village faction, and the voidbringers/sons of honor make a sort of dual-eliminator faction. Obviously it gets more complicated after that. But it's a start.
  11. I had a feeling I would be parshendi. Even prepared some RP for it. Which is back home on my computer. I'll post it in an hour or so when I get home. Anyways, we are a slight minority. Interesting. Factions analysis will arrive soon too. Also, first post EDIT: ninjad striker why u do dis
  12. You have failed to make a wish!!! The nightwatcher stares at you expectantly, waiting for a wish that will never come. After a very long, awkward silence, she pries open your mouth to see if you do in fact have a tongue. She discovers you do, and is angered by your insolence to visit her and remain silent. She shouts "have it your way" and rips out your tongue, so you will remain silent forevermore. I wish for an interesting vial of metal.
  13. On my phone right now and don't have too much time. But this striker lynch feels kind of weird. Seeing as I'm still alive, I obviously haven't been sticking my neck out enough. So I'll just say I oppose the striker lynch wholeheartedly, on the grounds that I don't like the way it started with relatively little reasoning but still built up speed so quickly.
  14. Nice catch, that song also looks like its clearly been corrupted.
  15. Yeah but why would the elims know what you knew? I get that supposing the elims thought Lopen was the ringleader is totally valid, because if you thought he was, maybe other people did. But I still have my eye on you
  16. Well I was looking at the coppermind entry on parshendi forms. The artform one is particularly interesting: “ Artform applied for beauty and hue. One yearns for the songs it creates. Most misunderstood by the artist it's true, Come the spren to foundation's fates.” —90th stanza of the Song of Listing[12] “ Artform for colors beyond our ken; For its grand songs we yearn. We must attract creationspren; These songs suffice 'til we learn.” —279th stanza of the Song of Revision[13] This is the only entry with two songs. The traditional Song of Listing, and the Song of Revision, what appears to be the modern iteration of Song of Listing, carried down orally over the centuries. Only somewhere in that transmission, a pretty significant change got made. Originally, the song says that to find artform, you need a spren that artists don't understand. The modern version says you need creationspren, which is probably the spren artists understand most of all. This seems a pretty dramatic change. During the time of the SA books, the parshendi are searching for artform by trying to attract creationspren. But this seems to be incorrect. It seems to me that this is proof that the songs have been tampered with. Something perhaps deliberately obscured the secret of artform from the parshendi. And they may well have tampered with other parts of the song too. It seems an awful lot like Venli was under Odium's influence before she ever took on stormform. We've never really figured out what caused that... But I think it was something in the songs. I'm betting that there's something in the songs that Odium planted there, which is what originally corrupted Venli and made the release of the everstorm possible.
  17. I'm finding aster's complete reversal really weird honestly. Yeah, that sounds plausible. But why would that be thought to be likely? Unless there's something I've missed, it seems strange that Brightness made such an oddly specific conjecture. A little bit like the eliminators actually did think that Lopen was the ringleader, except the reasons they might have thought that aren't public. I'll withhold my FoS about that until BR answers the question. But that's why I'm asking the question. Hmmm so your top three suspects are Flash, Stick, and BR... And yet you vote on someone different, who you only have "a little bit of an elim read on"? I don't really follow. Also, I don't suppose that you are one of our as-of-yet-unrevealed neutral roles? But your request for me to vote has been noted. I still need to catch up, but from what I've seen, the situational evidence against Stick makes me lean eliminator. I'm sorry if you are village, but I'm pretty sure one of the people in that C1 switch up pretty much had to be an eliminator.
  18. Probably the rules for what counts as "one object" are similar to the rules for soulstamping. You can't soulstamp the leg of a single table, because the table thinks of itself as a whole and you have to stamp the whole table.
  19. Oh trust me I don't mean to say you should be doing more work. I'm pretty daunted by the size of this game too. Now you already know I'm not caught up, but why would they think he was the ringleader?
  20. Oh also I'll say that dismissing the neutrals as irrelevant might be inadvisable. It's already established that to walk a line of neutality, neutrals will be in contact with elims. A neutral could possibly arrange to not counterclaim an elim, in exchange for certain benefits. I'm not saying I think this is even likely. I mostly trust that our neutral claims so far have all been honest. Orlok's claim was made too early to be foul play, Joe's claim seemed genuine because very early on he asked in PM if I was the PO, and wilson's claim seems valid because she was defending neutrals before she ever claimed to be one. But to refuse to scrutinize neutrals at all might not be wise. Even if I do mostly trust our neutrals.
  21. « Les utopies apparaissent bien plus réalisables qu’on ne le croyait autrefois. Et nous nous trouvons actuellement devant une question bien autrement angoissante : comment éviter leur réalisation définitive ?… Les utopies sont réalisables. La vie marche vers les utopies. Et peut-être un siècle nouveau commence-t-il, un siècle où les intellectuels et la classe cultivée rêveront aux moyens d’éviter les utopies et de retourner à une société non utopique moins « parfaite » et plus libre. » Utopias appear to be much easier to realize than formerly believed. We currently face a question that fills us with much more anguish: How to avoid their becoming definitively real? Utopias can made real. Life is moving toward utopias. And perhaps a new century is beginning, a century in which the intellectuals and the educated classes will dream about how to avoid utopias, and how to return to a non-utopian society, with less "perfection" and more freedom.
  22. This game looks fascinating. I get the feeling that it would be a very fun one to play in, but I'm also not sure I have the time. For now I'll ask to be a spectator. There's a small chance that this changes sometime before signups closes.
  23. As for the first part, this is partially why I continue to suspect Stick. But I already mentioned, I need to catch up before I make a proper case for any suspicion. As for the second part, Cosette and Eponine don't really have any reason to role-claim, if the eliminators already know who they are via PM (and they never had to reveal in PM to draw out elims, because they had Orlok to do that). In that case, they probably aren't in danger of being night-killed, and if they are ever in danger of being lynched they can just reveal their neutral role. For the sake of the village, I wish they would reveal, so we could reduce our pool of suspects, but I can understand maybe why they haven't. It's probably a better play, as a neutral, to not reveal, if they can manage to do so and still get in contact with the eliminators. EDIT: Now I'm wishing I'd claimed elim to a neutral at the beginning of the game... Might have got them to let slip the identities of one of my supposed team mates before people caught on.
  24. Wow. I definitely need to catch up. And I guess Rae died. Shame, because she was RPing more than anyone else. And also confirmed village, which probably is what got her killed.
  25. Well. That's a complicated one. On one hand, it could be said that her actions were unethical, for the reason that it was not her place to mete out justice to those men. On the other hand, a "greater good" argument could be made... This is similar to why any society ever allows a death penalty. Potentially, killing those people results in a net positive effect, and therefore if Jasnah killed them for the intent of producing that net positive effect, it may not have been wrong of her. On the other hand, even if the killing those people produces a net positive effect in the world, it is possible that Jasnah could have dealt with them in a different way that is preferable to killing them. If she was aware of an alternative course of action that would have produced an even greater net positive effect, her actions then become morally questionable. On the other hand, Jasnah's primary motive seemed to be to teach Shallan a lesson. It is quite unlikely Jasnah would have gone out and killed those men if she was not doing it to teach Shallan about ethics. This implies that Jasnah's primary intent was not doing the right thing or producing a net positive effect, and she in fact used the greater good argument as an excuse to further her own ends. On the other hand, as I may have mentioned earlier, our motives are always impure. So probably it was a mix of everything above I just listed, and her actions are neither blameless nor wholly evil. In absolute terms though, I will conclude that Jasnah probably should not have done what she did. On the other hand, I seem to have sprouted an unnatural number of hands.
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