Toaster Retribution

Here goes Meridas: I am Meridas Amaram, the most accomplished general in town In blood and tears my enemies shall drown A Son of Honor I am And with my Shardblade (legally won, do not ask) my enemies I slam And I begin with you, Odium, Shard of Passion or Hate Can you please decide before Cultivations plans settle your fate You think you are a being of power and might But remind me, at Thaylen City, did you win that fight? You took my pain and you wanted Dalinars But I doubt you can handle the pain when my rap beats your chull to the stars! Kelsier, Survivor of Hath-sin Survive this roast, you old trash-bin You killed a tyrant to boost your ego But that only unleashed a mad Shard who tried to smash your planet like a piece of Lego You made a plan that required you to die But tell me, was saving the world just another elaborate lie? Because you don’t care for anything, except getting a new spike for an eye. You are not a deity, not worth worship The people only likes you for your death (RIP) Moash, Moash, a (former) member of Bridge Four You could have gone down as the most epic bridgeman in lore But instead you had to betray everyone just to kill the king And that lost you your friends, all in one swing When I betray people, at least I do it right Face it, you are only alive because Kaladin didn’t wanna fight

Wayne would make for an interesting Endowment. His concept of trading would give that Shard a whole new meaning... I can inagine it... ”You get this power to blow up planets, and I get your hat.” Wayne would be a great Shard. On another note Denth might be an interesting Odium. He hated himself, and he hated Vasher, to the point that he was willing to commit atrocities.

That he found BAM is also likely, considering that she is theorized to be under Kholinar, which is why the listeners are digging around there (might also be why Kholinar was the first city they attacked).

We know Gavilar had several spheres. So many that Brandon hasn’t canonized the number. Unless he split BAM into pieces, I doubt he has an Unmade. The idea that he somehow got to her to access the Voidlight is more interesting, and more likely.

Cap: Kaladin Iron Man: Kelsier Thor: Marsh Hulk: Young Dalinar Hawkeye: Mraize Black Widow: Vivenna Edit: Can you throw in other Avengers too if you want too?

SadeasOdiumAmaramDilafIadonDenthTonk FahMraizeIalaiMoashMalataRashekStraff VentureZaneMilesPaalmEdwarnLewishiYomenAesudanAhanKabsalRoshoneKanPaarKarRutharTanalanTelrii Eliminated Nale. I’d like to see what the punishment is for throwing a watermelon. Who would be the best king?

Sadeas Odium Amaram Dilaf Iadon Denth Tonk Fah Mraize Ialai Moash Nale Malata Rashek Straff Venture Zane Miles Paalm Edwarn Lewishi Tyn Yomen Aesudan Ahan Kabsal Roshone KanPaar Kar Ruthar Tanalan Telrii Removed Graves. He feels like a fun guy to hang out with, so I’d probably befriend him. Also, he is kinda anti-racism which is good. And he could teach me how to use a bow and a Blade. Why did Brandon kill this guy again? He is stormin awesome. Anyway he would probably stab me because I like Elhokar. Who do you like the most?

Okay, new list, of villains (hopefully its good): Sadeas Ruin Odium Amaram Dilaf Bluefingers Iadon Denth Tonk Fah Mraize Ialai Moash Nale Taravangian Malata Rashek Straff Venture Zane Miles Paalm Edwarn Lewishi Tyn Yomen Aesudan Ahan Graves Kabsal Roshone KanPaar The Chasmfiend from Part 4 in WoR Kar Ruthar Tanalan Jewels Telrii Quellion First question: who would you want to invite to a dinner?

@Ashspren As someone who loves villains, I’d be interested in a list with only bad guys. Edit: I can make it, if no one else wants to.

Nope. And I have never said that what Amaram did is okay. I have said that his actions are understandable considering his circumstances, and that I don’t consider him evil or a piece of crem.

@Magpro I think that is a most correct analysis. Rock and Rlain do seem like the most likely ones. I am a fan of the Mr T idea, but it (along with the Navani theory) seems more and more unlikely.

I think I have some kind of OCD-thingy and I worry about tons of stuff and have these recurring intrusive thoughts that I can’t get rid of. I hate it, but it won’t go away. And the worst thing is, most of my worries and thoughts have managed to get tied to my religion, which makes it confusing and scary.

They are on Roshar, and the spren are loking for fitting KR. Do we think they will bond something and become part of an order? What orders could they join?

Beldre Clubs Demoux Renarin Vivenna Vasher Susebron Karata Roial Ahan Daorn Eliminated Teft. I think he’d be a good, if grumpy companion. Who would win a fight against a crazy hemalurgic-powered beaver?

As said above, I think he is interesting as well. I don’t like him though: he always felt like a douche in WoR. But I get his actions in OB, and I don’t hate him (and I am a major Elhokar fan).

I think @CrazyRioter is in the right here. It has to do with him being disgraced and cast out of Shin society.

I don’t get the Moash hate honestly. I disliked him more in WoR than in OB. The only thing he knows is being failed and betrayed. He hates society for some fair reasons (the darkeyes-lighteyes system isn’t that great guys) and this is what makes him turn to Odium. He looses all hope. That doesn’t make him a bad or horrible person.

That seems very fair. I would also suggest that already-used characters can be used again. Someone asked about that too.

Proof: He is grumpy, and does complain to teenagers. Theory: Amaram was the key to saving Roshar from Odium.

The hard thing about the games are they can stray into spoiler territory (which is why some end up in the Cosmere forum instead of the general one). But otherwise, yeah, it could be cool.

Oh! Amaram likes this! He hasn’t bought a birthday present for Sadeas yet.

This is true, and my biggest problem with my theory. But first off, we don’t know the exact time (and Ishar wouldn’t really have to be alive for the human invasions, just for the Binding and the Oathpact). Furthermore, I doubt there were plus thirty-fourty years of constant war before the Heralds gave themselves up. And thirdly, it is unlikely, but possible, that Ishars lifespan for some reason was longer than normal humans. We know that there are several ways for that in the Cosmere, and Ishar is already incredibly wierd.

But Ishar could have helped Honor and Cultivation before he was made a Herald. He appears to be quite old, so it is plausible that he was alive when Odium came, helped to bind him, and was made Herald later in his life.

When listening to the Shardcast on Heralds, I started to think about Ishar. One thing that interested me was the fact that he is called the Binder of Gods. That sounds very interesting. The podcasters brought up that it might be due to his involvement in the Oathpact, and that he bound Honor to an oath. But as the podcasters concluded, that sounds kind of unlikely. It feels wierd to have him be called Binder just because he made a deal with a Shard. Instead, my theory is that Ishar was the mind behind Odiums imprisonment. That would make more sense, to me. But, there is evidence against this, namely the fact that the Stormfather says the following in Oathbringer: So accoording to Stormfather, Honor and Cultivation are responsible for locking Odium up on Roshar. And that is probably true. After all, Ishar would be overpowered if he managed to lock a Shard to a planet all by himself. But I propose that he was involved in some way. Maybe through planning, or maybe in some other way. Something that backs my theory is that Honor most likely trusted Ishar. After all, he accepted a deal brought forth to him by Ishar, a deal that was incredibly important: the Oathpact. Honor knew he could trust Ishar. And Ishar knew how to contact Honor. One explanation for this is to assume that they had had contact with eachother earlier.

Kadash is an interesting suggestion to be sure. And you have a point about that the Vorin church could use a Bondsmith. Restares could be another option. He is involved in the Vorin church, and a leader of the Sons of Honor. And he has to come into play sometime. But yeah, Kadash is a good option, and it would certainly be cool to see how he who once feared and opposed what Dalinar was becoming, became a Bondsmith himself. Also, speaking of random candidates: Vivenna. She is on Roshar, she was very pious once, she has a guiding side, and it would surprise everyone.