Eagle of the Forest Path

I think of Seeking like an extra sense (I won't say sixth sense, because Bruce Willis isn't here), so it might be like smell, you generally don't register what you yourself smell like. Emotional allomancy on oneself might be possible, but you'd need to do some pretty funky stuff with an aluminummind for that.

Setting aside for the moment who should know what about compounding and why. All I've been able to find (and confirm via WoB) on so-called reverse compounding can be summarized in this one line on coppermind.net: This quote does not imply that enhancing Allomancy through Feruchemy happens like TLR- and Miles-style compounding in reverse, where they combine the different effects of the same metal. (It does not remove it as a possibility either, though) I have come to think that this is an unlikely way for reverse compounding to work. (not a fan of the term BTW, it's misleading) Voidus' advocacy (among others) of using Feruchemic nicrosil to enhance Allomancy has a lot more merit IMO. Though the systematic RAFOing of anything to do with the metal, and investiture in general, makes it hard to theorize with any basis. Since that's not the subject of this thread, I'll summarise. The way I see it, Nicrosilminds could either store Kinetic Invesiture or Inert (possibly "innate") Investiture,(recent terms from WoB, and I love it!) so the actual power generated by burning a metal (before it becomes an effect) or the part of the Spiritweb that allows you to burn said metal (the intensity of that part, energy, whichever synonym you prefer). Any way you look at it, tapping should result in having extra power available to use for Allomancy. (The first option probably has a less spectacular output, but it could be used as a battery in case you somehow don't have access to Preservation's power.) I'd like to propose another alternative: We know that Connector ferrings can store spiritual connection in their Duraluminminds, and that they can somehow use that to change their attachment to a world to help them use magics. This suggest to me that if a Connector becomes skilled enough with his Duralumin, he could be able to select a specific spiritual connection into which he can channel the connection he taps. (i.e. If I have a lot of general connection stored up, and I'm in a room with Voidus and Moogle, could I tap my Duraluminmind to only increase my connection to Voidus, but leave my connection to Moogle unaffected?) And, knowing that Allomancy's "power level" is dependent on a person's connection to Preservation, couldn't I then use my previously stored general spiritual connection to increase my connection to Preservation and thereby how powerful an Allomancer I am? If so, this increased connection to Preservation could potentially even turn a Misting* into a full Mistborn for a while. (* Or even a non-allomancer, but I imagine the amount of connection required would be prohibitively high.)

I've read somewhere (can't find it right now, but please believe me) that the brainwave for the allomantic symbols came from a pile of old nails Isaac Stewart was staring at looking for inspiration. So the spikes are straight nails, the crescents are bent nails and the dots are probably nails seen head-on. Canonically, the Allomantic symbols evolved from Feruchemic symbols, like the modern letter 'A' evolved from the Phoenician character "Aleph" () (which evolved from an Egyptian depiction of a bull's head, but I digress). In HoA the chapters are marked with a third - more sloppy and fluid-looking - set of characters, which I believe to be the Hemalurgic equivalent of these symbols (no real basis for it, but I can't see what else it could be).

For someone likely to exhibit a lot of expressions, I'd go with Wayne also. If you like a challenge: a Steel Inquisitor.

Ah, but those exist because Harmony created them according to what some ancient religion believed about bunnies. That's why Scadrian bunnies are 12 feet tall, fly by spinning their ears like a helicopter and eat Koloss.

Maybe storing and tapping iron influences your Higgs-Boson count. Large Hadron Ironmind?

Whether Marasi should/could/would have know about compounding or not is irrelevant IMO, since at that point in the story the reader needed to get an explanation about Twinborn compounding, and Brandon had the choice of having Wax tell Marasi, or writing in an entire new character, just for that one scene. I will admit it is a character inconsistency, but considering the alternatives... @Voidus, Wax is the one who has seen Miles in action in person, and for all we know, Wax also went to college. (Unless this is contradicted by SoS: due to bookcase constraints I have to wait a year for the UK paperback edition to come out )

I doubt it, tapping wakefulness should counteract any buildup of physical fatigue, at least. The mental consequences, however, of remaining awake forever are debatable. Could get nasty after a while, or it might not, if mental fatigue is also negated by tapping bronze.

Hmm, I dunno, the way I see it according to your interpretation, if you sleep 8 hours while filling your Bronzemind, you'd wake up just as tired as when you went to bed, because the benefits from sleeping went into the metalmind instead of being applied to you. Though the Ars Arcanum does say that storing wakefulness makes you sleep longer in exchange for being able to stay awake at a later time. So instead of sleeping 8 hours for a full night's rest, filling your metalmind by 1/5 will make you sleep 10 hours, of which 2 end up in the Bronzemind. What I'm wondering is what benefits (if any) compound tapping wakefulness would grant. In other words, what would happen if you tap 8 hours worth of stored wakefulness in a single hour. Is that even possible? would it just make you really hyper? Really alert? (Caffeinemind, anyone?)

I hate myself more for turning it into: "Closing time just funs the Ruin."

The first Mistborn trilogy is full of these hero/villain questions. 1. Alendi: He was on a heroic quest to defeat the deepness (=>hero), but what he would have ended up doing was free Ruin (=>villain). 2. Rashek, oh dear Lord (Ruler )! Rashek: He starts off murdering someone (=>villain), then does the selfish thing at the Well (=>villain), but that was actually the right thing to do in regards to Ruin (=>hero). He temporarily defeats the deepness (=>hero), but does it by turning the planet into a wasteland (=>villain), but he adapts everything to still be able to survive there (=>hero). He creates Koloss and Inquisitors (=>villain). Then he develops this gynormous god-complex couple with a glaring disregard for human life and dignity (=>villain), but it's all because he's trying to save them all from Ruin in the end (=>hero). He oppresses the Skaa for a thousand years and does some pretty nasty eugenics on the Terris (=>villain). On the other hand he creates the storage caverns to allow humanity to survive just that little bit longer in case he dies (=>hero). Oh, and he hides the Atium with the Kandra so Ruin can't find it (=>hero). All in all, pretty conflicted guy, ain't he? 3.Kelsier: At first he's a thief (=>villain) then he turns into a freedom fighter (=>hero). He's still a narcissistic sociopath who enjoys killing off any nobleman he can (=>villain), then he ends up saving Elend's life for Vin's sake (=>hero). And finally he allows himself to be killed for the good of the rebellion (=>hero). 4. Marsh: Leads the Skaa rebellion (=>hero) but quits because his sister-in-law gets carted off to the pits (=>self-pity). He gets back into the rebellion (=>hero), but mainly for revenge (=>villain?). Gets turned into a Steel Inquisitor and takes that opportunity to stab them all in the back (=>hero but smells like villain). Then he gets taken over by Ruin and proceeds on a murderous rampage (=>villain) which only gets interrupted by him removing Vin's Hemalurgic earring (=>hero), before proceeding to kill Elend (=>villain). Then there's a paradigm shift in the pantheon and now he's basically Harmony's errand boy (=>just plain sad). 5. Elend: Beheads Jastes Lekal for leading a Koloss horde to his city (=>hero) then goes and does the same thing at Fadrex (=>villain). But there are extenuating circumstances and he feels really, really sorry about it. There's more, but that's mostly just saying what a decent chap Elend actually is. 6. Vin: She kills TLR (=>hero), but maybe he was saving the world all along, so (=>villain). There's the whole slaughter of Cett's helpless troops with Zane (=>villain), which might not count since she was manipulated into doing that, even apart from the Ruin-induced schyzophrenia. Sets Ruin free (=>villain) and then does her best to stop him (=>hero). 7. Spook does some morally ambiguous things in HoA, but he does save a little girl from a burning building. 8. Breeze... soother... enough said. A big theme throughout the entire series is heroic people doing villainous things for the greater good... and jumping around on bits of metal.

I think it's more like saying that someone researching communism should read Animal Farm, but that's just an opinion. Even without direct statements about the Desolations, a Ghostblood would still be more likely to read "The Way of Kings" than "Arts and Majesty", for instance.

Who says a potential non-human Radiant has to be a Roshar native? We know there's a kandra worldhopper out there somewhere... If there were to be a Listener to become a Radiant, I nominate Thude.

I think I finally got it, you're saying that no matter which type of bubble, a punch directed out of a time bubble will compensate to have the same power as an "unenhanced" punch. I guess that has merit, but I'll take you up on agreeing to disagree, because the idea of Marasi bashing in the door of a bank vault is too good to give up. We could try asking the author, but he'd probably just RAFO, since it might have ftl implications.

I see your point, but I can't agree with it. If I follow your reasoning for a bendalloy bubble, then everything outside is affected by forces 1/100 as strong, which would mean that a Slider punching out of his bubble should gain momentum, not lose it (which is what happens, per WoB)

You must remember that Shallan's father is tied to the Ghostbloods, an organisation researching the Desolations. Since Nohadon actually lived through a Desolation, his book should be a prime source of information for them. I think it's plausible that it was present in the Davar library. I don't think the book itself causes radiance, but it probably doesn't hurt the odds.

ChayShan uses circular movement patterns to draw on the Dor, which might refer to the shape of the entire planet, if so that would also explain why Shuden was able to use it so far away from Jindo.

That's a relief! I wasn't trying to imply anything about you, but I've seen trouble on another forum in the past... it got nasty toward the end, so I'm a bit skittish about it. I realize that the frame of reference is important, but when dealing with magic time bubbles which by definition defy laws of physics (if not causality itself), can we really be certain which frame to use for calculations? I've picked one and you've picked another. I believe my point of view is supported by that WoB, but he's been known to change his mind, so who knows what he'll decide on in the end. (I'm referring to the anchoring time-bubbles issue) If t2 is normal time-flow rate, wouldn't that always be 1? Making dividing by it rather pointless? Unless you're anticipating multi-bubble issues. (I'm getting a headache just imagining that ) p2 is "bubbled" momentum? Percentage: if p2/p1 = 10 you do mean that would be 1000%, not 10%, right? Amen to that! I think I managed to follow most of it, though, and it looks well thought out. Not completely sure, but I think you're (mostly) agreeing with me? (yay! vindication! maybe...)

It's indirect, but Moogle's references tend to be accurate. http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/46120-soft-compounding/?p=336485

The sentience issue could be explained through the splinter's origin. Apart from the Returned, all splinters we've seen so far have been the result of a shard being splintered (killed), which would include the shard's consciousness. So the (splintered) consciousness of the shard would become the consciousness(-es) of its splinters With Divine Breath, the shard is still intact and the splinters are created by Endowment severing a part its power. This does not necessarily have to grant sentience to the splinters. Also, Lightsong's flashback to his post-mortem conversation with Endowment suggests to me that his sentience as a Returned is the same one as his original human sentience, not a part of his Divine Breath.

He's talking about strictly feruchemical compounding, not the kind where you combine it with allomancy. For instance is you store 100% of your weight for an hour, you could later go around for an hour at 200% of your weight (tap 100% weight + your actual weight), compounding here is where you tap over 100%. So tapping 200% would not last half an hour but only 20 minutes (for example). Tapping 400% would not last half the time compared to tapping 200%, or even a third of the time (using the example above) but just 5 minutes... and so on. So each extra unit of speed you tap drains more speed from your steelmind than the unit before. So in a graph of speed tapped to speed stored you'd flatline before reaching lightspeed. Assuming you don't just trip somewhere and explode against the floor.

Also, I think there's a WoB somewhere that you could get close to the speed of light with steelrunning (for a steel-steel twinborn, otherwise you'd indeed have trouble storing up enough speed) but you can't reach it (can't find the WoB right now, sorry).

Allomantic tin is closer to Daredevil than Batman I think Double gold for Wolverine No idea what power(s) Iron Man would get, which is rather ironic...

Well, I'm glad you agree with my force equations, even if it is only for the sake of argument. What do you mean by "measured force"? I stand by my equations, but it's quite possible that I am indeed getting my frames of reference wrong, but only as to which bubble gets which Temporal compression factor (I might have switched x and 1/x, it gets confusing to translate text to formula ). But the conclusion I arrived at (including x and 1/x) is the only way I can see to reconcile classical mechanics with Brandon's bendalloy-bubble "losing momentum" comment in the OP. (Of course this is using what I remember of my high school physics from a decade ago + Wikipedia, so don't shoot me if I got it wrong.) From where are you getting "inside the bubble, the Pulser exerts 1/100th of the force he normally does.", Moogle? I can't seem to find a source for that. And finally, it might be foolhardy of me to say this to a moderator, but I don't accept "it stands to reason" as a valid argument. (After all, it stands to reason that the sun moves around the earth, right? )

But by what is a ricochet caused? I'll try to keep the bolding in mind from now on, Voidus. As another aside, did you like my strikethrough T as a symbol for temporal compression factor? (If one already exists for that... wow) PS Message to every reader: If you don't agree with my theory, do please suggest an alternative, I am genuinely interested.